WEBVTT 00:00:04.766 --> 00:00:07.899 >>> WELL, GOOD EVENING ONCE AGAIN FROM OUR HEADQUARTERS HERE 00:00:08.033 --> 00:00:11.865 IN NEW YORK. PUT IT THIS WAY, "THE WASHINGTON 00:00:11.999 --> 00:00:15.365 POST" STORY THAT CAME OUT LATE TODAY BROKE THEIR PREVIOUS 00:00:15.533 --> 00:00:19.432 RECORD FOR INTERNET TRAFFIC, SET ON THE DAY THE "ACCESS 00:00:19.566 --> 00:00:21.932 HOLLYWOOD" OUTTAKES WERE PUBLISHED. 00:00:22.066 --> 00:00:25.765 TODAY'S EXPLOSIVE STORIES SAYS PRESIDENT TRUMP REVEALED HIGHLY 00:00:25.933 --> 00:00:29.032 CLASSIFIED INFORMATION TO THE RUSSIAN FOREIGN MINISTER, AND 00:00:29.200 --> 00:00:33.899 THE RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR DURING AN OVAL OFFICE MEETING LAST WEEK. 00:00:34.033 --> 00:00:37.765 U.S. OFFICIALS TELL "THE POST" THE INFORMATION JEOPARDIZED A 00:00:37.933 --> 00:00:41.632 CRITICAL SOURCE OF INTELLIGENCE IN THE FIGHT AGAINST ISIS AND 00:00:41.766 --> 00:00:44.699 THAT THE INTELLIGENCE WAS NOT OURS TO SHARE. 00:00:44.866 --> 00:00:50.098 THE REPORT SAYS "THE INFORMATION THE PRESIDENT RELAYED HAD BEEN 00:00:50.232 --> 00:00:53.199 PROVIDED BY A U.S. PARTNER THROUGH AN INTELLIGENCE SHARING 00:00:53.366 --> 00:00:57.398 ARRANGEMENT CONSIDERED SO SENSITIVE THAT DETAILS HAVE BEEN 00:00:57.532 --> 00:01:01.865 WITHHELD HAVE ALLIES AND TIGHTLY RESTRICTED EVEN WITHIN THE U.S. 00:01:01.999 --> 00:01:05.165 GOVERNMENT," OFFICIALS SAID. THEY GO ON TO SAY "TRUMP SEEMED 00:01:05.299 --> 00:01:08.899 TO BE BOASTING ABOUT HIS INSIDE KNOWLEDGE OF THE LOOMING THREAT. 00:01:09.066 --> 00:01:12.598 I GET GREAT INTEL. I HAVE PEOPLE BRIEF ME ON GREAT 00:01:12.732 --> 00:01:16.098 INTEL EVERY DAY," THE PRESIDENT SAID, ACCORDING TO AN OFFICIAL 00:01:16.232 --> 00:01:19.899 WITH KNOWLEDGE OF THE EXCHANGE. AND THEN THERE'S THIS -- SENIOR 00:01:20.033 --> 00:01:22.632 WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALS APPEARED TO RECOGNIZE QUICKLY THAT TRUMP 00:01:22.800 --> 00:01:32.332 HAD OVERSTEPPED AND MOVED TO CONTAIN THE POTENTIAL FALLOUT. 00:01:32.466 --> 00:01:37.032 THOMAS P. BOSSERT PLACED CALLS TO THE DIRECTORS OF THE CIA AND 00:01:37.166 --> 00:01:40.332 NSA, THE SERVICES MOST DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN THE INTELLIGENCE 00:01:40.466 --> 00:01:42.032 SHARING ARRANGEMENT, WITH THE PARTNER. 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:45.932 NBC NEWS HAS NOT INDEPENDENTLY CONFIRMED THE REPORT, BUT "THE 00:01:46.066 --> 00:01:48.499 NEW YORK TIMES" AND REUTERS HAVE SIMILAR REPORTING TONIGHT. 00:01:48.633 --> 00:01:52.965 THE WHITE HOUSE PUT OUT A FLURRY OF STATEMENTS BEFORE SENDING OUT 00:01:53.099 --> 00:01:55.465 THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER H.R. McMASTER TO DENY THE 00:01:55.599 --> 00:02:01.065 REPORT. >> I HAVE A BRIEF STATEMENT FOR 00:02:01.233 --> 00:02:02.565 THE RECORD. THERE'S NOTHING THAT THE 00:02:02.633 --> 00:02:04.432 PRESIDENT TAKES MORE SERIOUSLY THAN THE SECURITY OF THE 00:02:04.566 --> 00:02:09.065 AMERICAN PEOPLE. THE STORY THAT CAME OUT TONIGHT 00:02:09.233 --> 00:02:11.265 AS REPORTED IS FALSE. THE PRESIDENT AND THE FOREIGN 00:02:11.433 --> 00:02:14.765 MINISTER REVIEWED A RANGE OF COMMON THREATS TO OUR TWO 00:02:14.933 --> 00:02:18.632 COUNTRIES, INCLUDING THREATS TO CIVIL AVIATION. 00:02:18.766 --> 00:02:23.465 AT NO TIME, AT NO TIME, WERE INTELLIGENCE SOURCES OR METHODS 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:25.798 DISCUSSED. AND THE PRESIDENT DID NOT 00:02:25.932 --> 00:02:27.999 DISCLOSE ANY MILITARY OPERATIONS THAT WERE NOT ALREADY PUBLICLY 00:02:28.166 --> 00:02:32.099 KNOWN. TWO OTHER SENIOR OFFICIALS WHO 00:02:32.266 --> 00:02:35.398 WERE PRESENT, INCLUDING THE SECRETARY OF STATE, REMEMBER THE 00:02:35.532 --> 00:02:41.632 MEETING THE SAME WAY AND HAVE SAID SO. 00:02:41.800 --> 00:02:47.299 THEY'RE ON THE ACCOUNTING SHOULD OUTWEIGH OTHER SOURCES. 00:02:47.466 --> 00:02:50.398 >> HIS DENIAL THERE IS NOT BEING REPORTED. 00:02:50.532 --> 00:02:53.098 "THE WASHINGTON POST" DOES NOT CLAIM THAT TRUMP REVEALED 00:02:53.232 --> 00:02:55.865 SOURCES AND METHODS. EVEN BEFORE THIS HAPPENED, 00:02:55.999 --> 00:03:00.399 PEOPLE WERE WATCHING REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF THE SENATE, 00:03:00.533 --> 00:03:03.099 ESPECIALLY, AND VERY CAREFULLY IN TERMS OF THEIR SUPPORT FOR 00:03:03.233 --> 00:03:06.232 THE PRESIDENT. AND THAT'S WHY TONIGHT THIS IS 00:03:06.366 --> 00:03:10.265 GETTING A LOT OF ATTENTION. TENNESSEE REPUBLICAN SENATOR BOB 00:03:10.433 --> 00:03:12.665 CORKER, WHO IS CHAIRMAN OF SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS. 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:48.532 >> SENATOR CORKER, A MAN TO WATCH GOING FORWARD. 00:03:48.666 --> 00:03:51.699 A REMINDER, THE PRESIDENT LEAVES ON HIS FIRST OVERSEAS TRIP AT 00:03:51.866 --> 00:03:54.732 THE END OF THIS WEEK. LET'S BRING IN OUR PANEL ON A 00:03:54.866 --> 00:03:57.499 MONDAY NIGHT TO KICK OFF THE WEEK'S COVERAGE. 00:03:57.633 --> 00:04:02.299 STARTING WITH OUR CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT HALLIE 00:04:02.433 --> 00:04:18.665 JACKSON, JEREMY BASH, JULIA YAFI IS WITH US, CURRENTLY WITH THE 00:04:18.799 --> 00:04:23.365 ATLANTIC, AND WE WELCOME JACK BARSKI, A FORMER KGB SPY LIVING 00:04:23.533 --> 00:04:26.399 IN THE U.S. DURING THE COLD WAR. HE LATER COOPERATED WITH THE FBI 00:04:26.533 --> 00:04:29.765 AND IS NOW AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. HE ALSO HAPPENS TO BE THE AUTHOR 00:04:29.899 --> 00:04:35.565 OF "DEEP UNDERCOVER, MY SECRET LIFE AND TANGLED ALLEGIANCES AS 00:04:35.699 --> 00:04:40.965 A KGB SKY IN AMERICA." WELCOME TO ALL OF YOU. 00:04:41.099 --> 00:04:45.065 HALLIE, ON TOP OF A BUNCH OF EVENTFUL EVENINGS AT THE WHITE 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:47.598 HOUSE, WHAT WAS THIS EVENING LIKE TO COVER THE WHITE HOUSE? 00:04:47.732 --> 00:04:50.365 >> ANOTHER LATE ONE. WE CAN START THERE, BRIAN. 00:04:50.499 --> 00:04:54.265 THIS ALL STARTED DEVELOPING IN "THE WASHINGTON POST" FIRST 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:57.565 REPORTED THE STORY AROUND 5:15 OR 5:20. 00:04:57.699 --> 00:05:01.599 I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST REPORTERS IN THE WEST WING, LOOKING FOR 00:05:01.766 --> 00:05:04.065 SOME KIND OF RESPONSE FROM SEAN SPICER. 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:07.499 YOU SAW OVER THE NEXT HOUR AND A HALF OR SO, THE NUMBER OF 00:05:07.666 --> 00:05:10.932 MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA THAT GATHERED LOOKING FOR A REACTION 00:05:11.100 --> 00:05:14.632 GROW FROM MAYBE A HANDFUL TO AT ONE POINT 22 OF THEM. 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:16.932 AGAIN, LOOKING FOR INFORMATION HERE. 00:05:17.100 --> 00:05:19.065 YOU'VE SEEN THE FACE OF THIS RESPONSE. 00:05:19.200 --> 00:05:21.265 H.R. McMASTER, THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER. 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:24.599 IN FACT, YOU JUST PLAYED WHAT HE HAD TO SAY TO MEMBERS OF THE 00:05:24.766 --> 00:05:27.399 MEDIA, JUST AFTER 7:00. LET ME FLASHBACK TO SOMETHING 00:05:27.566 --> 00:05:30.132 THAT HAPPENED BEFORE THAT. YOU'RE SEEING HIM AND SOME OF 00:05:30.300 --> 00:05:34.632 HIS AIDES THERE IN THAT SHOT, THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:42.132 SPOKESPERSON THERE, DINA POWELL, SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS, YOU SEE 00:05:42.266 --> 00:05:44.365 THEM WALKING OUT THERE BEHIND REPORTERS. 00:05:44.499 --> 00:05:47.265 THE MOST VISIBLE -- THE ONLY VISIBLE SENIOR STAFFER WAS 00:05:47.399 --> 00:05:50.765 McMASTER HIMSELF. THAT WAS ACTUALLY ACCIDENTAL. 00:05:50.933 --> 00:05:54.265 RIGHT AROUND QUARTER TILL 6:00 OR SO, HE OPENED A DOOR FROM THE 00:05:54.433 --> 00:05:57.665 WEST WING THAT LEADS TO THE AREA WHERE THE PRESS OFFICE IS, AND 00:05:57.800 --> 00:06:02.832 SEEMED ABOUT AS STUNNED TO SEE THIS HALLWAY OF REPORTERS AS WE 00:06:02.999 --> 00:06:05.332 WERE TO SEE HIM. THERE WAS THE EXPECTATION THAT 00:06:05.466 --> 00:06:07.932 HE WAS THERE TO BRIEF US ON THIS WASHINGTON POST REPORT. 00:06:08.066 --> 00:06:12.165 HE SAID, THIS IS ABOUT THE LAST PLACE IN THE WORLD I WANTED TO 00:06:12.299 --> 00:06:16.565 BE, KIND OF SMILING, BACKED OUT, TURNED AROUND AND WENT BACK 00:06:16.732 --> 00:06:18.499 INSIDE. WE DIDN'T HEAR FROM WHITE HOUSE 00:06:18.666 --> 00:06:22.365 STAFFERS UNTIL ABOUT 45 MINUTES LATER, WHEN THAT STATEMENT CAME 00:06:22.500 --> 00:06:25.399 OUT FROM McMASTER AND POWELL AS WELL, AND THE SECRETARY OF 00:06:25.566 --> 00:06:27.399 STATE. YOU NOTE SOMETHING THAT IS KEY 00:06:27.566 --> 00:06:30.632 HERE, THAT THESE STATEMENTS DENIED SOMETHING THAT HAD NOT 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:33.099 BEEN REPORTED. THE SOURCES AND METHODS ISSUE. 00:06:33.266 --> 00:06:36.165 GIVEN THAT REPORTERS WERE ARMED WITH SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS, A 00:06:36.333 --> 00:06:39.899 SMALL GROUP WENT BACK INTO THE WHITE HOUSE, BACK INTO FIGURE 00:06:40.066 --> 00:06:43.699 OUT WHAT MORE WE COULD DISCOVER, AND I WILL TELL YOU AT ONE 00:06:43.866 --> 00:06:48.765 POINT, SARAH HUCKABEE SANDERS SAID THIS IS IT, NO MORE 00:06:48.899 --> 00:06:50.899 QUESTIONS AT THIS MOMENT. THIS WAS JUST BEFORE THE WHITE 00:06:51.033 --> 00:06:55.932 HOUSE GAVE THAT SO-CALLED LID. THERE HAS BEEN THE EXPECTATION 00:06:56.066 --> 00:06:59.732 THAT McMASTER WOULD BRIEF REPORTERS ON THE PRESIDENT'S 00:06:59.900 --> 00:07:02.432 FIRST INTERNATIONAL TRIP THAT BEGINS ON FRIDAY. 00:07:02.566 --> 00:07:05.499 IT REMAINS TO BE SEEN WHETHER THAT BRIEFING WILL HAPPEN. 00:07:05.633 --> 00:07:14.599 WE HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY GUIDANCE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER ABOUT THAT. 00:07:14.733 --> 00:07:17.832 SO ANOTHER LATE ONE HERE AT THE WHITE HOUSE, BRIAN, FOR AN 00:07:17.900 --> 00:07:21.399 ADMINISTRATION THAT HAS BEEN IN NEAR PERPETUAL CRISIS MANAGEMENT 00:07:21.533 --> 00:07:23.865 MODE NOW FOR A WHILE. >> A WHITE HOUSE I SHOULD 00:07:23.999 --> 00:07:28.965 MENTION IS NOT IT WILL AS ANY REFLECTION OF MOOD BUT IT WILL 00:07:29.133 --> 00:07:32.865 IN BLUE FOR FALLEN POLICE OFFICERS AROUND THE COUNTRY. 00:07:33.033 --> 00:07:35.765 JEREMY BASH, WHAT JUST HAPPENED TODAY? 00:07:35.933 --> 00:07:38.965 AND IN YOUR FORMER LINE OF WORK, HOW BIG IS THIS? 00:07:39.133 --> 00:07:44.265 >> THAT SONIC BOOM YOU HEARD AT 7:15 ON THE EAST COAST, THAT WAS 00:07:44.433 --> 00:07:47.265 10,000 INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS SLAPPING THEIR FOREHEAD, BRIAN, 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:50.565 BECAUSE THE THING THAT INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS WILL WANT 00:07:50.733 --> 00:07:54.065 TO BE ABLE TO DO IS GO OUT AND RECRUIT HUMAN SOURCES AND TELL 00:07:54.233 --> 00:07:56.999 THEM TWO THINGS. ONE, WE'RE GOING TO PROTECT YOUR 00:07:57.166 --> 00:07:58.665 LIFE. SECOND, YOUR INFORMATION IS 00:07:58.799 --> 00:08:00.832 GOING DIRECTLY TO THE PRESIDENT'S DESK. 00:08:00.966 --> 00:08:03.132 IT'S THAT IMPORTANT. TONIGHT, I DON'T THINK THEY CAN 00:08:03.266 --> 00:08:06.332 TELL THOSE HUMAN SOURCES THAT BOTH ARE TRUE. 00:08:06.533 --> 00:08:09.898 TO GIVE IT TO THE PRESIDENT MEANS THAT THEY MIGHT BE 00:08:10.032 --> 00:08:11.499 JEOPARDIZING THAT HUMAN SOURCE'S LIFE. 00:08:11.666 --> 00:08:14.865 >> AND YOU AND I HAVE HAD THIS DISCUSSION BEFORE OVER THE PAST, 00:08:14.999 --> 00:08:19.199 WHAT IS IT, 115 DAYS, AND THAT IS, IS IT POSSIBLE WE'RE GOING 00:08:19.366 --> 00:08:24.465 TO END UP WITH AN INTELLIGENCE STRUCTURE WHICH YOU KNOW WELL, 00:08:24.633 --> 00:08:27.965 AND HAVE FRIENDS IN, THAT IS NOT GIVING THEIR WORK PRODUCT TO THE 00:08:28.132 --> 00:08:30.832 BOSS AT THE END OF THE DAY. >> AND THAT'S ONE TO HAVE 00:08:30.966 --> 00:08:33.432 COUNTRY'S FIRST LINES OF DEFENSE. 00:08:33.566 --> 00:08:36.799 INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION FOR DECISIONMAKERS. 00:08:36.933 --> 00:08:41.598 FOR THE NATION SECURITY PRINCIPALS AND THE SECURITY IN 00:08:41.732 --> 00:08:47.232 CHIEF. AND TO GIVE THE RUSSIANS SOME OF 00:08:47.433 --> 00:08:49.932 OUR GOLDEN JEWELS, OUR HUMAN INTELLIGENCE REPORTING ON 00:08:50.066 --> 00:08:52.732 THREATS TO THE UNITED STATES, THAT REALLY JEOPARDIZES OUR 00:08:52.900 --> 00:08:55.132 SECURITY. >> JULIA, LAST TIME YOU WERE 00:08:55.266 --> 00:08:58.832 NICE ENOUGH TO COME ON THE BROADCAST, ONE OF THE TALKING 00:08:58.966 --> 00:09:04.365 POINTS IN OUR DISCUSSION WAS THE INSIDE THE MEDIA BELTWAY 00:09:04.533 --> 00:09:09.332 COMPLAINT THAT AMERICAN MEDIA HADN'T BEEN ALLOWED INSIDE THE 00:09:09.466 --> 00:09:15.099 OVAL OFFICE OF THE PEOPLE'S HOUSE THAT DAY, THAT IT WAS 00:09:15.233 --> 00:09:17.632 TASS, THE RUSSIAN STATE NEWS AGENCY. 00:09:17.766 --> 00:09:20.565 WE THINK ONE PHOTOGRAPHER, BUT THERE COULD HAVE BEEN MORE. 00:09:20.699 --> 00:09:24.632 YOU AND I WERE TALKING ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF HOW SMART IS THAT, 00:09:24.766 --> 00:09:26.565 IN TERMS OF THE SECURITY ARRANGEMENT. 00:09:26.699 --> 00:09:31.865 BUT HAD YOU THOUGHT OF THAT TODAY IN LIGHT OF THIS NEWS? 00:09:32.033 --> 00:09:35.032 >> I DON'T KNOW THAT -- WELL, YOU'RE RIGHT, THAT PROBABLY DID 00:09:35.166 --> 00:09:37.998 PLAY A ROLE IN IT. WHAT I KEPT THINKING WHEN I SAW 00:09:38.066 --> 00:09:40.499 THE NEWS IS, OF COURSE THIS HAPPENED. 00:09:40.666 --> 00:09:44.898 BECAUSE THE RUSSIANS HAVE BEEN PLAY THING LONG GAME, TRYING TO 00:09:45.032 --> 00:09:48.198 CONVINCE WESTERN COUNTRIES TO COOPERATE WITH THEM ON 00:09:48.332 --> 00:09:49.799 COUNTERTERRORISM. EVERY TIME THERE'S A TERRORIST 00:09:49.966 --> 00:09:53.865 ATTACK IN THE WEST, RUSSIA IS ONE OF THE FIRST TO RESPOND AND 00:09:53.999 --> 00:09:56.399 SAYS, WE FEEL YOUR PAIN. WE TOO HAVE TO DEAL WITH 00:09:56.566 --> 00:10:00.198 TERRORISM. WHY DON'T WE GET TOGETHER AND 00:10:00.332 --> 00:10:02.198 FIGHT TERRORISM TOGETHER. WHO WOULD SAY NO TO THAT, RIGHT? 00:10:02.332 --> 00:10:05.665 WE ALL WANT TO DEFEAT TERRORISM, TWO HEADS ARE BETTER THAN ONE. 00:10:05.799 --> 00:10:07.799 BUT THE RUSSIANS ARE DOING THEIR OWN THING. 00:10:07.966 --> 00:10:11.665 WHEN YOU HAVE THE RUSSIANS COMING INTO THE OVAL OFFICE, 00:10:11.833 --> 00:10:14.865 TALKING TO A MAN WHO IS PREDISPOSED TO LIKE THEM, 00:10:14.999 --> 00:10:17.865 PROBABLY EVEN MORE SO BECAUSE HE'S VERY STUBBORN AND EVERYBODY 00:10:18.033 --> 00:10:20.598 KEEPS TELLING HIM THAT THE RUSSIANS ARE BAD, THEY'RE TRYING 00:10:20.732 --> 00:10:24.532 TO PLAY YOU, AND HE IS KIND OF SAYING, WELL, I DON'T THINK SO. 00:10:24.700 --> 00:10:29.499 I THINK THEY'RE GREAT. AGAIN, I'M SPECULATING. 00:10:29.633 --> 00:10:34.899 BUT HE RAN MOST OF HIS CAMPAIGN ON AN ANTI-TERRORISM AGENDA. 00:10:35.033 --> 00:10:40.932 AND ON MAKING FRIENDS TO THE RUSSIANS. 00:10:41.066 --> 00:10:44.832 SO THE INTELLIGENCE THAT HE HANDS OVER TO THE RUSSIANS HAS 00:10:44.966 --> 00:10:48.465 TO DO WITH COUNTERTERRORISM. IT'S A BRILLIANT MOVE ON THE 00:10:48.599 --> 00:10:50.865 RUSSIAN'S PART AND AMAZING THAT DONALD TRUMP FELL FOR IT. 00:10:50.999 --> 00:10:53.665 >> JACK, THIS GOES TO YOUR FORMER LINE OF WORK. 00:10:53.833 --> 00:10:57.865 WHY WOULD THIS MATERIAL BE VALUABLE TO THE RUSSIANS AS A 00:10:58.033 --> 00:11:02.465 TRAFFICABLE COMMODITY? WHAT COULD THEY DO WITH IT? 00:11:02.633 --> 00:11:05.832 WHAT IS THE VALUE TO THEM? >> WELL, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY 00:11:05.966 --> 00:11:13.665 WHAT THE MATERIAL IS. BUT ANYTHING THAT CAN LEAD A 00:11:13.799 --> 00:11:17.665 HOSTILE INTELLIGENCE AGENCY INTO A CERTAIN DIRECTION IS VALUABLE. 00:11:17.799 --> 00:11:22.198 YOU KNOW, THIS -- IN INTELLIGENCE, BITS AND PIECES OF 00:11:22.332 --> 00:11:25.699 INFORMATION ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS GETTING THE WHOLE 00:11:25.866 --> 00:11:30.765 THING, BECAUSE YOU -- IT'S BECAUSE IT'S SO RARE TO GET A 00:11:30.899 --> 00:11:33.065 GLIMPSE INTO HOW THE OTHER SIDE OPERATES. 00:11:33.233 --> 00:11:38.498 >> AND JACK, JULIA AND OTHER GUESTS HAVE POINTED OUT THAT 00:11:38.632 --> 00:11:42.999 DONALD TRUMP, BECAUSE OF HOW HE'S WIRED, HIS PERSONALITY, CAN 00:11:43.166 --> 00:11:46.699 OFTEN COME AWAY FROM AN ENCOUNTER WITH PEOPLE FEELING 00:11:46.866 --> 00:11:50.932 THEY NOW HAVE A WARM, PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP AFTER -- 00:11:51.066 --> 00:11:55.932 >> I'VE GOT TO TAKE THIS CALL. >> HALLIE JACKSON IS GOING TO 00:11:56.066 --> 00:11:58.532 TAKE A CALL. PERHAPS WE'LL BE THE BEN FIR 00:11:58.666 --> 00:12:03.232 RARES OF THAT. BUT JULIA -- 00:12:03.366 --> 00:12:05.999 BENEFICIARIES OF THAT. BUT JULIA WAS TALKING ABOUT 00:12:06.133 --> 00:12:09.932 THIS, THAT PEOPLE WERE HOPING TO PUT TRUMP AND PUTIN TOGETHER AS 00:12:10.100 --> 00:12:12.099 QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE FOR THAT REASON. 00:12:12.233 --> 00:12:13.832 >> YEAH, LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING. 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:18.132 WHEN I WAS ACTIVE, I WAS IN POLITICAL INTELLIGENCE, AND 00:12:18.266 --> 00:12:22.032 FORCE OF HABIT, I'VE BEEN WATCHING THE POLITICAL SCENES 00:12:22.166 --> 00:12:26.332 EVER SINCE THEN. I HAV HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING 00:12:26.466 --> 00:12:29.332 THIS. IT PLAYS OUT LIKE A CARTOON, AND 00:12:29.466 --> 00:12:33.165 THIS CARTOON AIN'T FUNNY. IT'S REALLY SAD. 00:12:33.299 --> 00:12:39.332 >> SO JACK, DO YOU THINK THAT THIS IS AN ONGOING AND ACTIVE 00:12:39.466 --> 00:12:42.732 RUSSIAN EFFORT TO GET INTO AS MANY TENTACLES OF OUR GOVERNMENT 00:12:42.866 --> 00:12:47.965 AS POSSIBLE? >> THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT. 00:12:48.133 --> 00:12:53.765 NOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO SPECULATE HOW FAR THEY HAVE COME, BECAUSE 00:12:53.933 --> 00:12:56.232 THAT'S SUBJECT TO THE FBI INVESTIGATION. 00:12:56.400 --> 00:13:01.298 BUT CLEARLY, WHATEVER THEY CAN GET, THEY WILL TAKE. 00:13:01.432 --> 00:13:07.499 >> JEREMY, THE FUNDAMENTAL, ELEMENTAL BEDROCK QUESTION OF 00:13:07.633 --> 00:13:10.798 THE CAMPAIGN YOU HELPED US COVER, OF THE ELECTION YOU 00:13:10.932 --> 00:13:19.365 HELPED US COVER, AND NOW THE 00:13:19.533 --> 00:13:20.765 ADMINISTRATION, WHY IS DONALD TRUMP BEING SO NICE TO THE 00:13:20.899 --> 00:13:23.465 RUSSIANS? >> THAT'S THE BACKDROP AGAINST 00:13:23.599 --> 00:13:26.699 WHICH WE KIND OF PROCESSED TODAY'S STORY IN THE WASHINGTON 00:13:26.866 --> 00:13:29.065 TOAST. HE SEEMS UNBELIEVABLY MORE 00:13:29.199 --> 00:13:35.232 CONCERNED WITH HIS STANDING WITH THE RUSSIANS, WITH THE RUSSIAN 00:13:35.366 --> 00:13:39.565 FOREIGN MINISTER AND THE RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR THAN HE DOES WITH OUR 00:13:39.732 --> 00:13:42.232 OWN INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS. THAT IS BEWILDERING. 00:13:42.400 --> 00:13:46.632 >> JULIA, WHAT ELSE LOOKS FAMILIAR TO YOU? 00:13:46.800 --> 00:13:51.099 GIVEN HOW MUCH YOU HAVE STUDIED THE DYNAMIC BETWEEN ANY OF THESE 00:13:51.233 --> 00:13:54.032 FIGURES, AND CERTAINLY THESE TWO COUNTRIES AND GOVERNMENTS? 00:13:54.166 --> 00:14:03.399 >> I MEAN, THE SNEAKINESS AND THE WILLINGNESS TO LIE AND TO 00:14:03.499 --> 00:14:08.165 OBFUSKATE. WHAT'S SCARY IS THIS IS THE ONE 00:14:08.333 --> 00:14:10.665 THING THAT "THE WASHINGTON POST" REPORTED ON. 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:14.632 WHAT ELSE IS OUT THERE? WHAT'S EVEN MORE SCARY IS HALF 00:14:14.733 --> 00:14:17.165 THE COUNTRY IS WATCHING A DIFFERENT CHANNEL TONIGHT AND 00:14:17.299 --> 00:14:20.365 GET THING FROM A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE. 00:14:20.499 --> 00:14:24.132 AND YOU HAVE CERTAIN REPUBLICAN SENATORS SAYING, IT'S 00:14:24.266 --> 00:14:27.232 UNCLASSIFIED THE SECOND IT LEAVES THE PRESIDENT'S MOUTH. 00:14:27.366 --> 00:14:31.365 HE HAS THE LEGAL ABILITY AND LEGAL RIGHT TO DECLASSIFY 00:14:31.533 --> 00:14:33.932 ANYTHING HE DEEMS WORTH DECLASSIFYING. 00:14:34.066 --> 00:14:37.465 SO I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE GETTING THAT SPIN ON 00:14:37.599 --> 00:14:43.765 THE STORY, AND THIS IS GOING TO LOOK INCREASINGLY LIKE LAST 00:14:43.900 --> 00:14:46.299 WEEK'S SITUATION WITH THE PHOTOGRAPHERS, AS THE MEDIA 00:14:46.466 --> 00:14:50.399 BEING OUT TO GET TRUMP, AND HE'S JUST TRYING TO SHAKE THINGS UP, 00:14:50.566 --> 00:14:53.865 AND WHAT'S WRONG WITH MAKING A DEAL WITH THE RUSSIANS THAT ARE 00:14:53.999 --> 00:14:54.865 FIGHTING THE SAME