WEBVTT 00:00:04.633 --> 00:00:08.632 >>> ACCORDING TO SOME INCREDIBLE REPORTING FROM POLITICO, TOM 00:00:08.766 --> 00:00:13.098 PRICE, A MAN WHO PUSHES FOR MASSIVE SPENDING CUTS, SPENT 00:00:13.233 --> 00:00:18.332 AROUND $60,000 IN TAXPAYER MONEY ON PRIVATE JETS DURING JUST A 00:00:18.466 --> 00:00:21.865 THREE-DAY PERIOD LAST WEEK. THAT INCLUDED A FLIGHT FROM 00:00:22.000 --> 00:00:24.365 WASHINGTON, D.C., TO PHILADELPHIA AND BACK ON A 00:00:24.533 --> 00:00:27.765 30-SEAT PRIVATE CHARTER AT A COST OF -- THAT HE IS REALLY 00:00:27.899 --> 00:00:30.698 ASTOUNDING -- $25,000. HERE'S THE THINGS. 00:00:30.833 --> 00:00:34.132 D.C. AND PHILLY ARE LESS THAN 150 MILES APART AND THERE'S NO 00:00:34.266 --> 00:00:36.465 LACK OF OPTIONS TO GET FROM ONE TO THE OTHER. 00:00:36.566 --> 00:00:40.098 PRICE SPENT $25,000 OF TAXPAYER MONEY TO CHARTER THE PRIVATE 00:00:40.233 --> 00:00:43.032 JET. EVEN AT THE LAST MINUTE, A ROUND 00:00:43.166 --> 00:00:47.832 TRIP FLIGHT WHICH ITSELF IS A BIT MUCH, JUST $150 APART, WOULD 00:00:47.966 --> 00:00:51.698 COST AT MOST $725. THAT'S A LOT LESS THAN $25,000. 00:00:51.833 --> 00:00:58.132 THE MOST EXPENSIVE TRAIN FROM D.C. TO PHILLY AND BACK, WHEN WE 00:00:58.266 --> 00:01:02.599 LOOKED AT IT THIS AFTERNOON, IT WAS $544 PER PERSON. 00:01:02.733 --> 00:01:05.799 THE COST TO DRIVE THERE AND BACK BETWEEN GAS AND TOLLS COMES IN 00:01:05.933 --> 00:01:07.965 AT $92. THAT MEANS PRICE COULD HAVE 00:01:08.099 --> 00:01:14.432 SAVED TAXPAYERS OVER $24,000 IF HE JUST DROVE 2 1/2 HOURS THERE 00:01:14.566 --> 00:01:17.898 AND BACK. ASKED TO EXPLAIN, "WHEN 00:01:18.033 --> 00:01:22.965 COMMERCIAL AIRCRAFT CANNOT REASONABLY ACCOMMODATE TRAVEL 00:01:23.099 --> 00:01:26.532 REQUIREMENTS, PRICE'S CHARTER LEFT DULLES AIRPORT AT 8:27 AND 00:01:26.666 --> 00:01:31.398 A UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT DEPARTED FOR PHILADELPHIA AT 00:01:31.500 --> 00:01:34.065 8:22." REMEMBER, THE $60,000 THAT PRICE 00:01:34.166 --> 00:01:37.298 SPENT ON PRIVATE JETS CAME DURING JUST A THREE-DAY PERIOD 00:01:37.433 --> 00:01:40.098 LAST WEEK. CURRENT AND FORMER STAFFERS TELL 00:01:40.233 --> 00:01:43.732 POLITICO HE'S BEEN TAKING PRIVATE JETS FOR MONTHS. 00:01:43.866 --> 00:01:46.698 SOMEONE WHO KNOWS EXACTLY HOW UNUSUAL THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOR 00:01:46.833 --> 00:01:51.565 IS, FORMER WHITE HOUSE CABINET SECRETARY CHRIS LU, ALSO DEPUTY 00:01:51.699 --> 00:01:53.998 SECRETARY FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF LABOR UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA AND 00:01:54.100 --> 00:01:57.332 HE JOINS ME NOW. CHRIS, DID YOU TAKE A LOT OF 00:01:57.466 --> 00:02:00.598 PRIVATE CHARTERED JETS -- YOU WERE THE PERSON IN THE WHITE 00:02:00.733 --> 00:02:03.432 HOUSE THAT WAS WITH VARIOUS CABINET HEADS. 00:02:03.566 --> 00:02:06.098 WAS THIS A STANDARD THING THAT YOU GUYS WOULD DO? 00:02:06.233 --> 00:02:08.899 >> ABSOLUTELY NOT. THIS WAS NOT A STANDARD THING. 00:02:09.033 --> 00:02:11.999 I GUESS TOM PRICE PROBABLY DIDN'T WANT TO RIDE ON A PLANE 00:02:12.133 --> 00:02:15.565 WITH THE PEOPLE'S WHOSE HEALTH CARE HE'S TAKING WITH PEOPLE 00:02:15.633 --> 00:02:16.998 WHOSE HEALTH CARE HE'S TAKING AWAY. 00:02:17.133 --> 00:02:20.998 BUT LEAVING ASIDE THE COST WHO THINKS THE FASTEST WAY FROM D.C. 00:02:21.133 --> 00:02:24.832 TO PHILADELPHIA IS TAKING A PLANE? 00:02:24.966 --> 00:02:30.265 DRIVEN IT FASTER. >> COULDN'T PAY ME TO DRIVE TO 00:02:30.400 --> 00:02:34.932 DULLES IN ANY ITERATION. IT'S INSANE. 00:02:35.066 --> 00:02:37.798 FYI. >> BUT LITERALLY I CAN POINT TO 00:02:37.933 --> 00:02:43.899 SOMETHING EVERY DAY THAT TRUMP IS DOING THAT WOULD HAVE GOTTEN 00:02:44.033 --> 00:02:47.365 US FIRED IN OBAMA WHITE HOUSE. THERE WAS CONTROVERSY ABOUT 00:02:47.500 --> 00:02:52.699 MUFFINS THAT MIGHT HAVE COST $16 AT CONFERENCE THAT TURNED OUT 00:02:52.833 --> 00:02:59.299 NOT TO BE THE CASE BUT GRASSLEY AND SESSIONS IN UPROAR AND NOT 00:02:59.433 --> 00:03:04.965 HEARD FROM REPUBLICANS NOW. >> I HAD FORGOTTEN THE $16 00:03:05.100 --> 00:03:06.832 MUFFIN. IT WAS A THING FOR A WEEK. 00:03:06.966 --> 00:03:18.899 >> ACTUALLY A THING. AND WE'VE HAD WEEK AFTER WEEK. 00:03:19.033 --> 00:03:24.165 LAST WEEK MNUCHIN WANTING A PRIVATE JET. 00:03:24.300 --> 00:03:26.565 THIS IS PART OF A BIGGER PATTERN. 00:03:26.700 --> 00:03:32.265 WE DID NOT TAKE PRIVATE JETS. RARE EXCEPTION IS GOING TO VERY 00:03:32.400 --> 00:03:36.432 REMOTE PLACE. SEEING TORNADO DAMAGE OR YOU 00:03:36.566 --> 00:03:41.232 HAVE TO MAKE MULTIPLE STOPS WITHIN THE SAME DAY, COULD MAKE 00:03:41.366 --> 00:03:45.332 THE REQUEST BUT DETAILED COST JUSTIFICATION, DIDN'T DO IT 00:03:45.466 --> 00:03:47.265 REGULARLY IN OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. 00:03:47.400 --> 00:03:48.699 >> IT IS THEIR PREROGATIVE RIGHT? 00:03:48.833 --> 00:03:51.199 DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATIONS HAVE THEIR OWN BUDGETS. 00:03:51.333 --> 00:03:54.499 MONEY IS APPROPRIATED BY CONGRESS RIGHT? 00:03:54.633 --> 00:03:59.999 SO IF THE HHS IN TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO ALLOCATE 00:04:00.133 --> 00:04:04.532 MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SO SECRETARY FLIES AROUND ON CHARTERED JETS 00:04:04.666 --> 00:04:08.532 CAN DO IT LEGALLY RIGHT? IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF 00:04:08.633 --> 00:04:10.965 PRIORITIES. >> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT. 00:04:11.099 --> 00:04:16.432 PRICE OF SUPPORTING A BUDGET THAT CUTS MEDICAL RESEARCH. 00:04:16.566 --> 00:04:20.665 CUTTING ADVERTISING FOR OBAMACARE, FOR NAVIGATORS TO 00:04:20.800 --> 00:04:23.799 HELP PEOPLE SIGN UP. I'LL DEFER TO ETHICS EXPERTS 00:04:23.933 --> 00:04:26.965 WHETHER IT'S ALLOWED BUT IT'S POOR USE OF GOVERNMENT RESOURCES 00:04:27.100 --> 00:04:32.699 THAT COULD GO TO PEOPLE WHO REALLY NEED THE ASSISTANCE. 00:04:32.833 --> 00:04:33.365 >> EXPECTING THAT HE