WEBVTT 00:00:00.533 --> 00:00:02.498 ABOUT HOW MANY MARCHED AND WHERE. 00:00:02.632 --> 00:00:10.499 THE 11th HOUR BEGINS NOW. GOOD MONDAY EVENING FROM OUR 00:00:10.666 --> 00:00:14.198 HEADQUARTERS HERE IN NEW YORK. PRESIDENT TRUMP'S FIRST MONDAY 00:00:14.332 --> 00:00:18.699 IN OFFICE WAS A BUSY ONE. IT INCLUDED A LATE MEETING WITH 00:00:18.866 --> 00:00:20.798 CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS AT THE WHITE HOUSE. 00:00:20.932 --> 00:00:24.532 WE SEE PART OF IT THERE. DURING THAT GATHERING, TWO 00:00:24.666 --> 00:00:28.898 SOURCES TOLD NBC NEWS PRESIDENT TRUMP CONTINUED TONIGHT TO 00:00:29.032 --> 00:00:34.199 LITIGATE HIS LOSS IN THE POPULAR VOTE TO HILLARY CLINTON BY NOW 00:00:34.366 --> 00:00:38.632 2.8 MILLION. HE REPEATED THE WIDELY DEBUNKED 00:00:38.799 --> 00:00:43.099 CLAIM THAT HE ONLY LOST THE POPULAR VOTE BECAUSE OF THREE TO 00:00:43.233 --> 00:00:46.499 FIVE MILLION "ILLEGALS " GOING TO THE POLLS. 00:00:46.633 --> 00:00:49.332 THAT'S A FALSEHOOD AS THE L.A. TIMES WROTE TONIGHT. 00:00:49.500 --> 00:00:53.099 IF TRUE, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A STUNNING DEVELOPMENT. 00:00:53.233 --> 00:00:58.232 SPEAKING TO POLITICO, SENATE MAJORITY CONFIRMED THE REMARKS 00:00:58.400 --> 00:01:00.499 ADDING I DIDN'T PAY A LOT OF ATTENTION TO IT. 00:01:00.666 --> 00:01:04.132 I WAS READY TO MOVE ON TO SOME POLICY ISSUES. 00:01:04.266 --> 00:01:08.865 EARLIER AT A MEETING WITH CEO AS THE PRESIDENT SAID HE CAN CUT 00:01:08.966 --> 00:01:12.265 BUSINESS REGULATIONS BY 75% OR MAYBE MORE. 00:01:12.399 --> 00:01:17.065 HE ALSO VOWED TO CUT BUSINESS TAXES BY AS MUCH AS 20% AND 00:01:17.199 --> 00:01:20.832 IMPOSE A BORDER TAX FOR U.S. COMPANY WHO IS LEAVE HERE ONLY 00:01:20.966 --> 00:01:25.632 TO MAKE PRODUCTS ABROAD. LATER IN THE DAY, THE PRESIDENT 00:01:25.766 --> 00:01:29.565 HELD A LISTENING SESSION WITH UNION LEADERS WHO LARGELY BACKED 00:01:29.699 --> 00:01:33.132 THE COMPETITOR IN THE ELECTION. HE USED IT TO TALK ABOUT ONE OF 00:01:33.266 --> 00:01:38.832 THE EXECUTIVE ACTIONS ABANDONING THE TRANSPACIFIC PARTNERSHIP, 00:01:38.966 --> 00:01:45.665 TPP WHICH THE PRESIDENT AND THE DEMOCRATS CAMPAIGNED AGAINST AND 00:01:45.799 --> 00:01:49.765 REINSTATED A FOREIGN AID POLICY KNOWN AS THE GLOBAL GAG RULE. 00:01:49.899 --> 00:01:55.799 IT BANS FOREIGN AID OR FEDERAL FUNDING FOR INTERNATIONAL 00:01:55.966 --> 00:01:59.832 PROGRAMS THAT PROVIDE ABORTIONS OR EVEN INFORMATION ABOUT THE 00:01:59.966 --> 00:02:01.765 PROCEDURE. PRESIDENT TRUMP PLACED A FREEZE 00:02:01.899 --> 00:02:05.265 ON HIRING FEDERAL EMPLOYEES. LATER IN THE DAY HE GAINED A 00:02:05.399 --> 00:02:10.098 THIRD MEMBER OF THE CABINET WHEN KANSAS CONGRESSMAN MIKE POMPEO 00:02:10.166 --> 00:02:17.065 WAS CONFIRMED AND SWORN IN TONIGHT AS CIA DIRECTOR. 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:22.732 REX TILLERSON CLEARED A MAJOR HURDLE WITH A PARTY LINE VOTE OF 00:02:22.866 --> 00:02:26.365 11-10 ON THE SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE, BUT ONLY 00:02:26.533 --> 00:02:30.332 AFTER GETTING THE OKAY FROM ONE OF DONALD TRUMP'S FORMAL 00:02:30.466 --> 00:02:34.732 CAMPAIGN RIVALS. >>OR THIS NOMINATION, I VOTED TO 00:02:34.866 --> 00:02:39.465 CONFIRM MR. TILLERSON AND WILL AGAIN IN THE SENATE. 00:02:39.633 --> 00:02:42.865 I STAND READY TO HELP HIM SUCCEED. 00:02:42.999 --> 00:02:46.499 I HOPE HE DOES BECOME THE BEST SECRETARY OF STATE OUR NATION 00:02:46.633 --> 00:02:49.432 EVER HAD. I INTEND TO HOLD HIM AND THE 00:02:49.600 --> 00:02:53.565 DEPARTMENT OF STATE ACCOUNTABLE. >> AFTER A CONTENTIOUS WEEKEND 00:02:53.699 --> 00:03:01.665 THAT SAW THE PRESIDENT AND PRESS SECRETARY PASS ALONG KNOWN 00:03:01.833 --> 00:03:04.365 FALSEHOODS, SEAN SPICER WENT TO THE BRIEFING ROOM AND ADDRESSED 00:03:04.499 --> 00:03:10.665 THE WEEKEND'S CONTROVERSY OVER THE FACTS AROUND CROWD SIZES AND 00:03:10.799 --> 00:03:12.965 THE PRESIDENT'S COMMENTS THAT MAYBE WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER 00:03:13.099 --> 00:03:18.065 CHANCE TO KEEP IRAQ'S OIL. >> I BELIEVE WE HAVE TO BE 00:03:18.233 --> 00:03:21.165 HONEST WITH THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. SOMETIMES WE CAN DISAGREE WITH 00:03:21.333 --> 00:03:24.465 THE FACTS. THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS WE MAY 00:03:24.633 --> 00:03:27.865 NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND WHEN WE COME OUT, BUT OUR INTENTION IS 00:03:27.999 --> 00:03:30.365 NOT TO LIE, JONATHAN. WE WILL DO OUR BEST. 00:03:30.533 --> 00:03:33.965 I WILL TELL YOU THE FACTS AS I KNOW THEM. 00:03:34.099 --> 00:03:37.499 IF MAKE A MISTAKE, I WILL DO THE BEST TO CORRECT IT. 00:03:37.633 --> 00:03:40.732 >> CAN YOU STATE THIS ADMINISTRATION WILL NOT SEND 00:03:40.900 --> 00:03:44.899 MORE TROOPS TO IRAQ TO TAKE THE OIL? 00:03:45.033 --> 00:03:48.399 >> I'M NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE MAY OR MAY NOT DO. 00:03:48.533 --> 00:03:51.732 THE PRESIDENT DOESN'T TELEGRAPH WHAT TAKING OPTIONS OFF THE 00:03:51.866 --> 00:03:57.065 TABLE. THAT'S NOT A GOOD NEGOTIATIONING 00:03:57.199 --> 00:03:59.699 STILL. HE DOES IT IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T 00:03:59.833 --> 00:04:03.932 TELEGRAPH TO PEOPLE WHAT HE WON'T TAKE ON OR OFF THE TABLE. 00:04:04.066 --> 00:04:06.265 >> WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT HALLE JACKSON. 00:04:06.399 --> 00:04:10.265 YOU SAW ON THE FRONT ROW HE IS IN D.C. 00:04:10.433 --> 00:04:14.432 IN WASHINGTON WHITE HOUSE REPORTER FOR "THE WASHINGTON 00:04:14.566 --> 00:04:20.865 POST" ASHLEY PARKER AND CHIEF BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT ALI 00:04:21.033 --> 00:04:22.665 VELSHI. I HAVE TO SAY YOUR PIECE JUST 00:04:22.799 --> 00:04:27.165 LANDED ON THE WASHINGTON POST WEBSITE AND IT'S BECOME A MUST 00:04:27.333 --> 00:04:30.965 READ AROUND HERE TONIGHT. THE FIRST DAYS IN TRUMP'S WHITE 00:04:31.166 --> 00:04:34.732 HOUSE.HOUSE. FURY, TUMULT AND A REBOOT. 00:04:34.900 --> 00:04:38.799 I AM STUNNED AT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO WERE WILLING TO DISH 00:04:38.966 --> 00:04:43.632 TO YOU AND GIVE YOU DETAILED AS YOU PUT IT, AMONG MANY, MANY 00:04:43.766 --> 00:04:47.299 INTERVIEWS. NONE OF WHOM WANTED TO BE 00:04:47.466 --> 00:04:50.265 IDENTIFIED. THIS TWO PARAGRAPH PORTION ABOUT 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:55.199 THE DEBACLE ON SATURDAY. BY MOST STANDARDS, SPICER'S 00:04:55.366 --> 00:04:58.865 STATEMENT DID NOT GO WELL. HE APPEARED TIRED AND NERVOUS 00:04:58.999 --> 00:05:03.665 AND AN ILL-FITTING GRAY PIN STRIPE SOOT. 00:05:03.799 --> 00:05:10.399 HE GAVE FAULTYY FACTS AND FIGURS WHICH WERE PRESIDENTED TO HIM BY 00:05:10.533 --> 00:05:14.232 THE INAUGURAL COMMITTEE. MANY CRITICS SHAUT SPICER WENT 00:05:14.366 --> 00:05:16.932 TOO FAR AND COMPROMISED INTEGRITY. 00:05:17.066 --> 00:05:22.432 IN TRUMP'S MIND, HIS ATTACK ON THE NEWS MEDIA WAS NOT FORCEFUL 00:05:22.566 --> 00:05:24.698 ENOUGH. THE PRESIDENT WAS ALSO BOTHERED 00:05:24.832 --> 00:05:29.332 THAT HE READ AT TIMES FROM A PRINTED STATEMENT. 00:05:29.466 --> 00:05:33.532 ASHLEY, IS THIS THE WAY IT'S GOING TO BE? 00:05:33.666 --> 00:05:37.632 >> I THINK IT VERY WELL MAY BE. YOU HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND THAT 00:05:37.766 --> 00:05:42.732 SEAN SPICER HAS A TOUGH JOB. IN PART BECAUSE HE HAS MULTIPLE 00:05:42.866 --> 00:05:46.532 MASTERS HE HAS TO MAINTAIN A GOOD RELATIONSHIP OR A CREDIBLE 00:05:46.666 --> 00:05:49.365 RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS PRESS CORPS. 00:05:49.499 --> 00:05:50.965 THEN HE HAS DONALD TRUMP TO PLEASE. 00:05:51.133 --> 00:05:53.732 THIS PRESIDENT UNLIKE PAST PRESIDENTS IS NOT ONLY CONCERNED 00:05:53.866 --> 00:05:58.465 WITH THE MESSAGE AND THE TALKING POINTS AND THE NARRATIVE, BUT 00:05:58.633 --> 00:06:01.065 ALSO WITH PHYSICAL APPEARANCE AND DELIVERY. 00:06:01.233 --> 00:06:06.332 IF HE IS READING AND HIS SUIT FITS WELL AND HIS TIE IS KNOTTED 00:06:06.466 --> 00:06:09.432 CORRECTLY. THAT IS A LOT FOR A PRESS 00:06:09.500 --> 00:06:12.165 SECRETARY WHO WAS STILL UNPACKING HIS OFFICE TO HANDLE 00:06:12.333 --> 00:06:14.932 ON TOP OF HIS OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES. 00:06:15.066 --> 00:06:19.398 >> SO MUCH PALACE INTRIGUE IN THE ARTICLE INCLUDING KELLYANNE 00:06:19.532 --> 00:06:21.665 CONWAY GETTING AN OFFICE ON THE SECOND FLOOR. 00:06:21.799 --> 00:06:24.665 SOME PEOPLE SAYING THAT'S NOT A TERRIBLE THING. 00:06:24.799 --> 00:06:28.365 THAT'S WHERE VALERIE JARRETT WAS. 00:06:28.499 --> 00:06:30.465 DONALD TRUMP WILL NEVER CLIMB THE STAIRS. 00:06:30.599 --> 00:06:34.099 IT'S ALL ABOUT ACCESS AND PROXIMITY TO THE OVAL OFFICE. 00:06:34.266 --> 00:06:39.298 ABOUT DONALD TRUMP, HOWEVER, AND THIS MAY REQUIRE YOU TO BE A 00:06:39.432 --> 00:06:43.499 PART-TIME SHRINK, IS THIS GOING TO BE THE DAILY BATTLE BETWEEN 00:06:43.600 --> 00:06:48.632 WHAT HE WANTS TO SAY AND THE PERSON HE MAY KNOW HE NEEDS TO 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:51.799 BE NOW AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES? 00:06:51.933 --> 00:06:54.032 >> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THAT WAS A TENSION YOU 00:06:54.166 --> 00:06:58.132 SAW ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL. DONALD TRUMP CAN BE SORT OF HIS 00:06:58.300 --> 00:07:06.532 BEST SELF AND BY THAT I MEAN MOST DISCIPLINED ON MESSAGE. 00:07:06.666 --> 00:07:09.332 WE SAW THAT MAX. WITH HIM IN THE WHITE HOUSE, 00:07:09.500 --> 00:07:13.132 EVEN IF YOU LOOK AT HIS TWEETS, YOU HAVE SOME THAT FEEL LIKE THE 00:07:13.266 --> 00:07:17.532 REAL DONALD TRUMP SAYING EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTS TO SAY AND SOME 00:07:17.666 --> 00:07:22.998 THAT FEEL LIKE A HELPING HIM CRAFT A MORE POLITICALLY CORRECT 00:07:23.133 --> 00:07:28.565 AND MORE ELOQUENT STATEMENT. >> HALLE JACKSON WHERE YOU WERE 00:07:28.733 --> 00:07:33.165 SITTING IN THE FRONT ROW. SEAN SPICER CAME IN. 00:07:33.333 --> 00:07:37.565 COULD YOU TELL FROM THE JUMP THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE AN 00:07:37.699 --> 00:07:41.365 ATTEMPT AT A RESTART AND A NEW TONE. 00:07:41.499 --> 00:07:42.632 >> SURE. LOOK AT THE COMMENTS HE MADE 00:07:42.766 --> 00:07:48.699 WHEN HE FIRST WALKED OUT. TRYING TO CRACK JOKES TO THE 00:07:48.866 --> 00:07:53.799 MEDIA AND BE SELF DEPRECATING. I'M NOT SURE I WENT OVER IN A 00:07:53.966 --> 00:07:55.065 ROOM. IT WAS VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT 00:07:55.199 --> 00:07:59.699 WE SAW ON SATURDAY. IT WAS PART OF WHAT WAS AN 00:07:59.866 --> 00:08:02.565 INTERESTING DAY IN AND OUT OF THE WEST WING. 00:08:02.699 --> 00:08:06.299 NOT ONLY THE BRIEFING FROM SEAN SPICER AND PRESIDENT TRUMP 00:08:06.466 --> 00:08:11.599 HOLDING I THINK SIX OR SEVEN WHAT ARE CALLED POOL SPREES. 00:08:11.766 --> 00:08:15.399 SUMMONING REPORTERS THAT GO BACK AND TAKE PHOTOS OF HIM AND VIDEO 00:08:15.566 --> 00:08:18.132 AND TRY TO TOSS HIM A QUESTION OR TWO. 00:08:18.266 --> 00:08:22.799 AT TIMES UNEXPECTEDLY YOU GET A CALL OVER THE PA AND THEY RUN 00:08:22.966 --> 00:08:25.598 BACK AND THERE WOULD PRESIDENT TRUMP BE. 00:08:25.732 --> 00:08:28.432 PERHAPS A SYMBOL OF WHAT IT WILL BE LIKE IN CONVERSATIONS WITH 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:30.799 OTHER REPORTERS IN THE BRIEFING ROOMS AND BEYOND. 00:08:30.899 --> 00:08:36.599 THERE IS A SENSE OF THIS VERY RARELY HAPPENED UNDER THE OBAMA 00:08:36.733 --> 00:08:40.732 ADMINISTRATION. THE IMPROMPTU MOMENTS AND IT 00:08:40.866 --> 00:08:44.132 FITS WITH A CANDIDATE WHICH WAS UNPREDICTABLE AND LIKELY TO KEEP 00:08:44.333 --> 00:08:48.632 THE PRESS ON THEIR TOES. >> ON SUBSTANCE IF MEMORY SERVES 00:08:48.800 --> 00:08:53.932 HERE, TWO QUESTIONS WERE ON GENERAL FLYNN AND THE EXTENT OF 00:08:54.066 --> 00:08:56.932 THE INVESTIGATION. HE MAY OR MAY NOT BE UNDER AND 00:08:57.066 --> 00:08:59.099 THE QUESTION WE SAW ABOUT THE IRAQI OIL. 00:08:59.233 --> 00:09:06.265 >> THE IRAQI OIL WAS ONE WE WANTED TO GET OUT THERE. 00:09:06.433 --> 00:09:13.832 THEY ASKED THE QUESTION THAT CAUGHT OUR RADAR TOO. 00:09:13.966 --> 00:09:16.832 IT SEEMED TO SLIDE UNDER THE RADAR. 00:09:16.966 --> 00:09:20.932 THIS IDEA THAT THERE MAY BE ANOTHER CHANCE TO KEEP THE OIL 00:09:21.099 --> 00:09:25.165 IN IRAQ. WE WANTED TO GET SHAWN SPICE OR 00:09:25.333 --> 00:09:28.265 THE RECORD TO CLARIFY ON WHETHER THAT MEANT MORE MILITARY ACTION. 00:09:28.433 --> 00:09:33.099 YOU HEARD THE RESPONSE THERE. THE OTHER HAD TO DO WITH GENERAL 00:09:33.266 --> 00:09:37.065 MIKE FLYNN. THE CONVERSATIONS THAT HE HAD 00:09:37.233 --> 00:09:40.632 WITH THE RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR IN LATE DECEMBER AND THREE DAYS 00:09:40.766 --> 00:09:42.498 AGO. WE HAVE NEW REPORTING FROM THE 00:09:42.632 --> 00:09:46.298 NBC NEWS INTEL TEAM. ESSENTIALLY THAT THERE NEVER WAS 00:09:46.432 --> 00:09:49.898 ACCORDING TO A U.S. INTELLIGENCE OFFICIAL AND AN INVESTIGATION 00:09:50.032 --> 00:09:53.865 INTO FLYNN AND THESE PHONE CALLS THAT THE CALLS WERE PICKED UP AS 00:09:53.999 --> 00:09:59.799 PART OF A ROUTINE SURVEILLANCE ON THE ROUTINE SCRUTINY ON THE 00:09:59.933 --> 00:10:04.465 RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR AND TO THIS OFFICIAL, THE MATTER HAS BEEN 00:10:04.599 --> 00:10:04.832 CONCLUDED. 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:07.665 THERE IS AN IMPORTANT POINT TO GET OUT SINCE THERE IS FRESH 00:10:07.799 --> 00:10:11.832 ATTENTION ON GENERAL FLYNN. >> BEFORE WE GO BACK TO ONE OF 00:10:11.966 --> 00:10:19.532 THE UBER GET INSIDE DONALD TRUMP'S MIND QUESTIONS, YOU 00:10:19.700 --> 00:10:25.332 HEARD -- BECAUSE WE ARE IN A NEW WORLD ON WHAT HE SAYS, CAN HE 00:10:25.466 --> 00:10:31.932 REDUCE BUSINESS REGS BY 75%? CAN HE REDUCE BUSINESS TAXES BY 00:10:32.066 --> 00:10:35.332 20% AND CAN HE SAY TO FORD MOTOR IF YOU ARE GOING TO BUILD THE 00:10:35.466 --> 00:10:40.265 CARS IN MEXICO, WE ARE GOING TO SLAP A BORDER TAX. 00:10:40.433 --> 00:10:44.432 >> I WILL START FROM THE END. HE CAN'T TELL MASTA WHERE TO 00:10:44.566 --> 00:10:46.932 BUILD CARS. HE DIDN'T SIGN AN EXECUTIVE 00:10:47.066 --> 00:10:52.532 ORDER SAYING HE WILL START TO RENEGOTIATE, BUT HE SIGNALLED HE 00:10:52.666 --> 00:10:56.765 IS MEETING WITH THEM TO BEGIN A NEGOTIATION. 00:10:56.933 --> 00:11:00.965 THEY ARE NOT SO CONCERNED WITH ANYONE GOING ON IN CANADA, BUT 00:11:01.033 --> 00:11:03.465 MEXICAN FACTORIES. ON THE OTHER ISSUES, HE IS 00:11:03.633 --> 00:11:09.932 TALKING ABOUT REDUCING CORPORATE TAXES FROM 35% TO AS LOW'S 15%. 00:11:10.066 --> 00:11:14.332 HE HAS BEEN SAYING 15 TO 20%. THAT'S FURTHER THAN PAUL RYAN 00:11:14.466 --> 00:11:16.899 THINKS THEY CAN GO. THIS IS ALL YOU THINK ABOUT. 00:11:17.066 --> 00:11:20.499 HOW TO GET TAXES DOWN. WHEN THEY CAN'T GO AS FAR, THEY 00:11:20.666 --> 00:11:23.765 ARE STILL WORKING ON IT AND STILL DOING THE MATH AND TRYING. 00:11:23.899 --> 00:11:27.498 IT'S NOT A SILVER BULLET EVERYBODY THINKS IT IS. 00:11:27.632 --> 00:11:31.099 IN MY HOME COUNTRY, THEY TRIED IT AND IT DIDN'T CHANGE THINGS 00:11:31.266 --> 00:11:36.299 AS DRAMATICALLY AS WE THINK THAT LOWERING TAXES TENDS TO. THERE 00:11:36.466 --> 00:11:40.898 ARE TWO THINGS TO KEEP IN MIND. WHEN YOU SPEAK TO A BUSINESS 00:11:41.032 --> 00:11:44.498 OWNER, WE WANT BUSINESS OWNERS TO HIRE AND EXPAND, THE NUMBER 00:11:44.632 --> 00:11:47.265 ONE PROBLEM IS DEMAND. THEY NEED PEOPLE TO BUY THEIR 00:11:47.399 --> 00:11:49.865 STUFF. NUMBER TWO IS REGULATION THAT IS 00:11:49.999 --> 00:11:55.132 OFTEN NOT FEDERAL IN NATURE. MOST TENDS TO BE STATE OR LOCAL. 00:11:55.266 --> 00:11:59.665 MOST OF IT CAME AS A RESULT OF A COURT CASE OR A LAWSUIT. 00:11:59.799 --> 00:12:04.465 THOSE THINGS CAN'T BE REMOVED FROM THE BOOKS. 00:12:04.599 --> 00:12:09.399 THE ARBITRARY NUMBER, I NEED TO SEE WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT. 00:12:09.533 --> 00:12:13.632 >> ASHLEY, AS WE GET TO YOU, I WILL AIR THE EXCHANGE HEARD 00:12:13.766 --> 00:12:17.099 AROUND THE WORLD FROM "MEET THE PRESS" YESTERDAY MORNING. 00:12:17.233 --> 00:12:22.032 JAWS DROPPED IN THE PRESS CORPS AND CIVILIAN LIFE. 00:12:22.166 --> 00:12:25.965 CHUCK TODD AND KELLYANNE CONWAY. >> YOU DID NOT ANSWER THE 00:12:26.099 --> 00:12:29.565 QUESTION OF WHY THE PRESIDENT ASKED THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS 00:12:29.699 --> 00:12:34.332 SECRETARY TO COME OUT IN FRONT OF THE PODIUM FOR THE FIRST TIME 00:12:34.466 --> 00:12:38.165 AND UTTER A FALSEHOOD. WHY DID HE DO THAT? 00:12:38.333 --> 00:12:41.765 IT UNDERMINES THE CREDIBILITY OF THE ENTIRE WHITE HOUSE PRESS 00:12:41.933 --> 00:12:44.932 OFFICE. >> DON'T BE SO OVERLY DRAMATIC 00:12:45.066 --> 00:12:47.632 ABOUT IT, CHUCK. YOU ARE SAYING IT'S A FALSEHOOD 00:12:47.766 --> 00:12:56.499 AND THEY ARE GIVING SEAN SPICER GAVE ALTERNATIVE FACTS TO THAT. 00:12:56.666 --> 00:13:01.965 >> ALTERNATIVE FACTS? THE ONE THING HE GOT RIGHT -- 00:13:02.100 --> 00:13:08.099 FOUR OF THE FIVE WERE NOT TRUE. THEY ARE NOT FACTS, THEY ARE 00:13:08.266 --> 00:13:11.698 FALSEHOODS. >> ASHLEY, THIS IS A WHOLE NEW 00:13:11.832 --> 00:13:14.632 WORLD. WHILE YOU CAN'T SPEAK FOR YOUR 00:13:14.766 --> 00:13:16.599 ENTIRE NEWSPAPER, HOW DO YOU PROCEED NOW? 00:13:16.766 --> 00:13:21.099 ARE YOU GOING TO ADAPT A NEW LANGUAGE IN PRINT JOURNALISM 00:13:21.166 --> 00:13:26.432 THAT SAYS WHAT YOU NEED TO SAY? >> I THINK YOU SAW THAT 00:13:26.566 --> 00:13:29.599 HAPPENING A LITTLE BIT DURING THE CAMPAIGN. 00:13:29.733 --> 00:13:34.132 PEOPLE CALLING WHAT KELLYANNE CONWAY CALLING ALTERNATIVE FACTS 00:13:34.300 --> 00:13:36.832 OR LIES IN HEADLINES IN THE NEWSPAPER. 00:13:36.966 --> 00:13:40.532 I THINK THERE WILL BE AN EFFORT BY NEWS ORGANIZATIONS WHICH IS 00:13:40.700 --> 00:13:45.432 WHAT WE WANT TO DO. STATE THE TRUTH TO THE BEST OF 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:47.232 OURABILITY. IF SOMETHING IS FALSE OR A LIE, 00:13:47.366 --> 00:13:49.532 WE WILL AND WE HAVE THE FACTS TO PROVE IT. 00:13:49.700 --> 00:13:53.032 WE WILL TRY TO SAY THAT INSTEAD OF SAYING ON THE ONE HAND, 00:13:53.166 --> 00:13:55.832 PEOPLE THINK THIS. ON THE OTHER HAND, SOME PEOPLE 00:13:55.966 --> 00:13:58.899 THINK IT WAS MISTRUTHFUL. YOU ARE SEEING THAT AND WILL 00:13:59.066 --> 00:14:00.665 CONTINUE TO SEE THAT GOING FORWARD. 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:04.332 >> HALLE, BACK TO THE HEADLINE OF OUR BROADCAST. 00:14:04.466 --> 00:14:08.865 FIRST OF ALL, THEY TOLD CNN THE PRESIDENT IS STILL TALKING ABOUT 00:14:09.033 --> 00:14:15.365 CROWD SIZE AT THE INAUGURATION, BUT THE HEADLINE WAS THREE TO 00:14:15.533 --> 00:14:17.965 FIVE MILLION ILLEGALS WHO SOMEHOW MADE THE DIFFERENCE IN 00:14:18.099 --> 00:14:21.098 THE POPULAR VOTE. IT IS FALSE. 00:14:21.232 --> 00:14:25.365 THERE IS THE IMAGERY THAT SET THE PRESIDENT OFF OVER THE 00:14:25.533 --> 00:14:28.532 WEEKEND. WHAT TO DO ABOUT THAT ILLEGALS 00:14:28.666 --> 00:14:30.865 LINE. >> LISTEN, FIRST OF ALL YOU HAVE 00:14:30.999 --> 00:14:33.765 TO REPORT IT OUT TO NAIL THIS DOWN. 00:14:33.899 --> 00:14:37.599 "THE WASHINGTON POST" IS REPORTING THIS AND NBC NEWS 00:14:37.766 --> 00:14:41.665 CONFIRM TO THE TEAM THIS WAS IN FACT SOMETHING THAT PRESIDENT 00:14:41.799 --> 00:14:45.165 TRUMP BROUGHT UP WITHIN THE FIRST TEN MINUTES OF THIS 00:14:45.299 --> 00:14:48.865 COCKTAIL HAPPY HOUR RECEPTION, IF YOU WILL, WITH THESE 00:14:48.999 --> 00:14:52.199 BIPARTISAN GROUPS OF DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN LEADERS AT THE 00:14:52.366 --> 00:14:56.699 WHITE HOUSE IN THE WEST WING. YOU ALSO HAVE NBC NEWS HAVING 00:14:56.866 --> 00:14:59.098 REACHED OUT TO THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION FOR A COMMENT OR 00:14:59.232 --> 00:15:02.065 A RESPONSE TO THIS. THE BROADER QUESTION IS WHAT 00:15:02.199 --> 00:15:07.532 DOES THIS SAY ABOUT A PRESIDENT WHO IS STILL HARPING ON CROWD 00:15:07.666 --> 00:15:14.832 SIZES AND TALKING ABOUT THE POPULAR VOTE AND EXPLAINING WHY 00:15:14.966 --> 00:15:20.632 HE LOST BY CONTINUING TO PUSH FORWARD AS YOU CLEARLY PUT OUT. 00:15:20.766 --> 00:15:26.999 THE FALSE CLAIMS ABOUT VOTER FRAUGHT. 00:15:27.133 --> 00:15:33.732 AND PEOPLE WHO WERE IN THE ROOM AND LIKE FOR EXAMPLE LEADERS IN 00:15:33.866 --> 00:15:39.065 BOTH PARTIES. THESE GUYS WHO WERE THERE. 00:15:39.233 --> 00:15:42.065 YOU HAVE TO WONDER WHO WAS PUSHING BACK ABOUT THIS AND IF 00:15:42.233 --> 00:15:44.632 THEY ARE. PARTICULARLY WHERE THERE ARE 00:15:44.766 --> 00:15:51.432 BIGGER ISSUES FACING FINGER. EVEN THEY WILL