WEBVTT 00:01.169 --> 00:04.804 THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> Reporter: YOU BET. 00:04.805 --> 00:06.773 >> Reporter: YOU BET. >>> 1,250, THAT’S THE NUMBER OF 00:06.774 --> 00:07.707 >>> 1,250, THAT’S THE NUMBER OF ADDITIONAL IMMIGRANT CHILDREN 00:07.742 --> 00:08.408 ADDITIONAL IMMIGRANT CHILDREN LIKELY SEPARATED FROM THEIR 00:08.409 --> 00:11.845 LIKELY SEPARATED FROM THEIR PARENTS AT THE U.S./MEXICO 00:11.879 --> 00:12.479 PARENTS AT THE U.S./MEXICO BORDER BEFORE THE TRUMP 00:12.480 --> 00:13.613 BORDER BEFORE THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION FORMALLY 00:13.648 --> 00:14.547 ADMINISTRATION FORMALLY ANNOUNCED ZERO TOLL LANCE 00:14.582 --> 00:15.315 ANNOUNCED ZERO TOLL LANCE POLICY. 00:15.316 --> 00:18.618 POLICY. A HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES 00:18.619 --> 00:20.120 A HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES OFFICIAL GAVE THAT FIGURE TO A 00:20.121 --> 00:21.888 OFFICIAL GAVE THAT FIGURE TO A FEDERAL JUDGE LAST WEEK. 00:21.889 --> 00:23.923 FEDERAL JUDGE LAST WEEK. JULIA AINSLEY, CAN YOU TELL US 00:23.925 --> 00:25.292 JULIA AINSLEY, CAN YOU TELL US MORE WHAT WE LEARNED ABOUT 00:25.293 --> 00:25.926 MORE WHAT WE LEARNED ABOUT FAMILY SEPARATION? 00:25.960 --> 00:28.061 FAMILY SEPARATION? WHY ARE THEY GIVING THE NEW 00:28.096 --> 00:28.528 WHY ARE THEY GIVING THE NEW FIGURES NOW? 00:28.530 --> 00:30.630 FIGURES NOW? >> IT IS A LONG TIME COMING. 00:30.631 --> 00:30.997 >> IT IS A LONG TIME COMING. . 00:30.998 --> 00:32.232 . THE REASON THESE FIGURES ARE 00:32.266 --> 00:33.734 THE REASON THESE FIGURES ARE EVEN BEING BROUGHT TO LIGHT IS 00:33.735 --> 00:34.602 EVEN BEING BROUGHT TO LIGHT IS BECAUSE OF A COURT ORDER. 00:34.635 --> 00:36.236 BECAUSE OF A COURT ORDER. A JUDGE IN CALIFORNIA TOLD THE 00:36.270 --> 00:37.304 A JUDGE IN CALIFORNIA TOLD THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION THAT THEY 00:37.338 --> 00:39.840 TRUMP ADMINISTRATION THAT THEY NEEDED TO GO BACK AND FIGURE OUT 00:39.841 --> 00:42.042 NEEDED TO GO BACK AND FIGURE OUT EXACTLY HOW MANY CHILDREN WERE 00:42.043 --> 00:43.410 EXACTLY HOW MANY CHILDREN WERE SEPARATED FROM THEIR PARENTS AT 00:43.411 --> 00:45.946 SEPARATED FROM THEIR PARENTS AT THE BORDER BEFORE ZERO TOLERANCE 00:45.947 --> 00:47.247 THE BORDER BEFORE ZERO TOLERANCE EVEN WENT INTO EFFECT IN SUMMER 00:47.248 --> 00:50.150 EVEN WENT INTO EFFECT IN SUMMER OF 2018 TO MAKE IT A SYSTEMATIC 00:50.184 --> 00:52.085 OF 2018 TO MAKE IT A SYSTEMATIC BORDERWIDE SEPARATION FOR ANY 00:52.120 --> 00:53.620 BORDERWIDE SEPARATION FOR ANY PARENTS CROSSING THE BORDER 00:53.622 --> 00:54.521 PARENTS CROSSING THE BORDER ILLEGALLY WITH A CHILD. 00:54.522 --> 00:56.256 ILLEGALLY WITH A CHILD. THE REASON THESE PEOPLE WERE 00:56.290 --> 00:57.624 THE REASON THESE PEOPLE WERE SEPARATED BEFORE IS BECAUSE IN 00:57.659 --> 01:00.360 SEPARATED BEFORE IS BECAUSE IN LATE 2017 THERE WAS A PILOT 01:00.362 --> 01:01.328 LATE 2017 THERE WAS A PILOT PROGRAM THAT BEGAN MAINLY 01:01.329 --> 01:02.763 PROGRAM THAT BEGAN MAINLY CONCENTRATED IN THE EL PASO AREA 01:02.764 --> 01:05.666 CONCENTRATED IN THE EL PASO AREA OF TEXAS WHERE THEY STARTED TO 01:05.667 --> 01:06.467 OF TEXAS WHERE THEY STARTED TO SEPARATE CHILDREN FROM THEIR 01:06.501 --> 01:07.435 SEPARATE CHILDREN FROM THEIR PARENTS. 01:07.469 --> 01:09.370 PARENTS. THEY DID THIS COVERTLY. 01:09.371 --> 01:10.671 THEY DID THIS COVERTLY. THEY DIDN’T TELL ANYONE ABOUT 01:10.672 --> 01:10.938 THEY DIDN’T TELL ANYONE ABOUT IT. 01:10.939 --> 01:12.973 IT. WHEN GROUPS LIKE THE ACLU WENT 01:13.008 --> 01:14.842 WHEN GROUPS LIKE THE ACLU WENT TO SUE AFTER THE ZERO TOLERANCE 01:14.876 --> 01:16.477 TO SUE AFTER THE ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY WAS OVER, THEY DIDN’T 01:16.511 --> 01:18.145 POLICY WAS OVER, THEY DIDN’T EVEN KNOW TO ASK ABOUT THIS 01:18.179 --> 01:18.979 EVEN KNOW TO ASK ABOUT THIS POPULATION OF CHILDREN BECAUSE 01:19.013 --> 01:20.747 POPULATION OF CHILDREN BECAUSE THEY DIDN’T KNOW THEY HAD BEEN 01:20.782 --> 01:21.181 THEY DIDN’T KNOW THEY HAD BEEN SEPARATED. 01:21.216 --> 01:24.584 SEPARATED. IN JANUARY IT CAME TO LIGHT THAT 01:24.586 --> 01:27.488 IN JANUARY IT CAME TO LIGHT THAT PERHAPS THOUSANDS HAD BEEN 01:27.489 --> 01:28.088 PERHAPS THOUSANDS HAD BEEN SEPARATED PRIOR TO ZERO 01:28.090 --> 01:29.122 SEPARATED PRIOR TO ZERO TOLERANCE 01:29.157 --> 01:29.490 TOLERANCE TOLERANCE. 01:29.524 --> 01:30.124 TOLERANCE. THAT’S WHAT THE INSPECTOR 01:30.158 --> 01:30.791 THAT’S WHAT THE INSPECTOR GENERAL OF HEALTH AND HUMAN 01:30.825 --> 01:31.225 GENERAL OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES SAID. 01:31.259 --> 01:32.760 SERVICES SAID. THEY SAID, LOOK, THOSE PEOPLE 01:32.761 --> 01:34.762 THEY SAID, LOOK, THOSE PEOPLE NEED TO BE PART OF THIS LAWSUIT, 01:34.763 --> 01:34.995 NEED TO BE PART OF THIS LAWSUIT, TOO. 01:35.030 --> 01:37.764 TOO. THEY NEED TO BE IDENTIFIED AND 01:37.799 --> 01:38.165 THEY NEED TO BE IDENTIFIED AND REUNITED. 01:38.166 --> 01:39.566 REUNITED. NOW ALL WE HAVE IS THE 01:39.568 --> 01:41.001 NOW ALL WE HAVE IS THE GOVERNMENT HAS GONE BACK AND 01:41.003 --> 01:42.403 GOVERNMENT HAS GONE BACK AND COUNTED HOW MANY, YOU HAVE THAT 01:42.437 --> 01:44.238 COUNTED HOW MANY, YOU HAVE THAT NUMBER, 1,250, WHICH IS ABOUT 01:44.272 --> 01:46.073 NUMBER, 1,250, WHICH IS ABOUT HALF OF THE NUMBER THAT WERE 01:46.074 --> 01:47.474 HALF OF THE NUMBER THAT WERE SEPARATED UNDER ZERO TOLL LANCE 01:47.476 --> 01:49.710 SEPARATED UNDER ZERO TOLL LANCE WHEN THEY RAMPED THIS UP 01:49.745 --> 01:50.110 WHEN THEY RAMPED THIS UP BORDERWIDE. 01:50.112 --> 01:52.113 BORDERWIDE. IT’S A LARGE PORTION. 01:52.114 --> 01:54.482 IT’S A LARGE PORTION. THE QUESTION IS, ALISON, WHERE 01:54.516 --> 01:54.882 THE QUESTION IS, ALISON, WHERE ARE THEY? 01:54.883 --> 01:55.816 ARE THEY? HAVE THEY BEEN REUNITED? 01:55.851 --> 01:57.718 HAVE THEY BEEN REUNITED? WILL THE JUDGE FORCE THEM TO 01:57.719 --> 01:58.052 WILL THE JUDGE FORCE THEM TO REUNITE? 01:58.086 --> 01:59.520 REUNITE? LAWYERS FOR THE GOVERNMENT WERE 01:59.554 --> 02:01.756 LAWYERS FOR THE GOVERNMENT WERE TRYING TO MAKE THE CASE IT WOULD 02:01.790 --> 02:04.325 TRYING TO MAKE THE CASE IT WOULD BE TOO ONEROUS TO COUNT THESE 02:04.326 --> 02:06.527 BE TOO ONEROUS TO COUNT THESE CHILDREN, LET ALONE REUNITE THEM 02:06.562 --> 02:07.762 CHILDREN, LET ALONE REUNITE THEM BECAUSE IT’S BEEN TOO LONG, OVER 02:07.796 --> 02:09.430 BECAUSE IT’S BEEN TOO LONG, OVER TWO YEARS, AND PERHAPS THE 02:09.431 --> 02:12.333 TWO YEARS, AND PERHAPS THE PARENTS HAVE BEEN DEPORTED, THE 02:12.334 --> 02:13.501 PARENTS HAVE BEEN DEPORTED, THE CHILDREN ARE SOMEWHERE ELSE. 02:13.502 --> 02:15.436 CHILDREN ARE SOMEWHERE ELSE. IT’S EASY TO MAKE THE CASE, OF 02:15.437 --> 02:16.537 IT’S EASY TO MAKE THE CASE, OF COURSE YOU SHOULD REUNITE A 02:16.571 --> 02:17.872 COURSE YOU SHOULD REUNITE A CHILD WITH THEIR FAMILY MEMBER, 02:17.906 --> 02:18.339 CHILD WITH THEIR FAMILY MEMBER, THEIR PARENTS. 02:18.373 --> 02:20.408 THEIR PARENTS. >> DO WE HAVE ANY SENSE -- YOU 02:20.442 --> 02:21.909 >> DO WE HAVE ANY SENSE -- YOU RAISED THE QUESTION OF HOW MANY 02:21.910 --> 02:23.210 RAISED THE QUESTION OF HOW MANY ALL OF THIS IS GOING. 02:23.212 --> 02:25.747 ALL OF THIS IS GOING. DO WE HAVE ANY SENSE IF THEY ARE 02:25.748 --> 02:27.048 DO WE HAVE ANY SENSE IF THEY ARE ACTUALLY MAKING THOSE 02:27.049 --> 02:28.149 ACTUALLY MAKING THOSE CONNECTIONS AND HOW THE EFFORTS 02:28.150 --> 02:30.318 CONNECTIONS AND HOW THE EFFORTS TO REUNITE THOSE KIDS ARE GOING? 02:30.319 --> 02:32.153 TO REUNITE THOSE KIDS ARE GOING? >> WE REALLY ONLY GET AS MUCH 02:32.188 --> 02:33.321 >> WE REALLY ONLY GET AS MUCH INFORMATION OUT OF THE 02:33.355 --> 02:34.755 INFORMATION OUT OF THE GOVERNMENT AS THE JUDGE COMPELS 02:34.757 --> 02:35.723 GOVERNMENT AS THE JUDGE COMPELS THEM TO GIVE. 02:35.725 --> 02:37.458 THEM TO GIVE. AT THIS POINT WHAT WE HAVE IS A 02:37.459 --> 02:37.858 AT THIS POINT WHAT WE HAVE IS A NUMBER. 02:37.860 --> 02:40.728 NUMBER. SO, THEY WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH 02:40.730 --> 02:41.829 SO, THEY WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH RECORDS FROM THERE AND TRY TO 02:41.830 --> 02:42.964 RECORDS FROM THERE AND TRY TO START REUNITING. 02:42.998 --> 02:45.767 START REUNITING. THE JUDGE HAS NOT YET ORDERED 02:45.768 --> 02:46.501 THE JUDGE HAS NOT YET ORDERED REUNIFICATION FOR THIS GROUP 02:46.535 --> 02:48.469 REUNIFICATION FOR THIS GROUP LIKE HE DID FOR THOSE SEPARATED 02:48.504 --> 02:49.570 LIKE HE DID FOR THOSE SEPARATED UNDER ZERO TOLERANCE. 02:49.572 --> 02:51.006 UNDER ZERO TOLERANCE. AFTER ZERO TOLERANCE HE WAS 02:51.040 --> 02:52.073 AFTER ZERO TOLERANCE HE WAS ORDERING THAT WITHIN WEEKS OF 02:52.074 --> 02:52.874 ORDERING THAT WITHIN WEEKS OF THE POLICY ENDING. 02:52.908 --> 02:54.275 THE POLICY ENDING. NOW THIS IS TWO YEARS. 02:54.276 --> 02:55.743 NOW THIS IS TWO YEARS. SO, THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW 02:55.778 --> 02:59.080 SO, THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO MAKE AMENDS 02:59.081 --> 03:00.181 THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO MAKE AMENDS FOR THESE FAMILIES. 03:00.182 --> 03:01.583 FOR THESE FAMILIES. I’LL POINT OUT, ALISON, THE 03:01.617 --> 03:02.851 I’LL POINT OUT, ALISON, THE REASON IT WAS SO HARD FOR THEM 03:02.885 --> 03:06.388 REASON IT WAS SO HARD FOR THEM TO EVEN TRACK DOWN THIS NUMBER 03:06.422 --> 03:07.723 TO EVEN TRACK DOWN THIS NUMBER IS BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT 03:07.757 --> 03:08.456 IS BECAUSE THE GOVERNMENT STARTED SEPARATING CHILDREN 03:08.458 --> 03:09.290 STARTED SEPARATING CHILDREN WITHOUT TRACKING THEM. 03:09.292 --> 03:11.393 WITHOUT TRACKING THEM. THEY DIDN’T HAVE A WAY OF 03:11.427 --> 03:12.694 THEY DIDN’T HAVE A WAY OF PAIRING A NUMBER TO PUT ON THE 03:12.695 --> 03:15.030 PAIRING A NUMBER TO PUT ON THE CHILD AND ON THE PARENT THAT 03:15.064 --> 03:16.197 CHILD AND ON THE PARENT THAT THEY COULD BOTH BE MATCHED AS 03:16.198 --> 03:17.198 THEY COULD BOTH BE MATCHED AS THEY WORKED THEIR WAY THROUGH 03:17.232 --> 03:19.500 THEY WORKED THEIR WAY THROUGH THE SYSTEM. 03:19.502 --> 03:21.536 THE SYSTEM. >> IT’S A HORRIFIC THING TO 03:21.571 --> 03:22.003 >> IT’S A HORRIFIC THING TO THINK ABOUT. 03:22.005 --> 03:24.472 THINK ABOUT. ANYONE WITH A FAMILY IS PROBABLY 03:24.473 --> 03:25.807 ANYONE WITH A FAMILY IS PROBABLY JAW DROPPED ON THIS NEWS. 03:25.808 --> 03:28.610 JAW DROPPED ON THIS NEWS. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU ABOUT 03:28.611 --> 03:30.512 I WOULD LIKE TO ASK YOU ABOUT OTHER NEWS. 03:30.546 --> 03:31.246 OTHER NEWS. THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION COULD 03:31.280 --> 03:35.683 THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION COULD COLLECT DNA FROM MIGRANTS 03:35.685 --> 03:36.818 COLLECT DNA FROM MIGRANTS COLLECTED FROM BORDER 03:36.853 --> 03:38.920 COLLECTED FROM BORDER AUTHORITIES AND KEEP IT IN A 03:38.921 --> 03:39.287 AUTHORITIES AND KEEP IT IN A DATABASE. 03:39.322 --> 03:40.522 DATABASE. WHAT DO THEY WANT TO DO WITH 03:40.523 --> 03:40.822 WHAT DO THEY WANT TO DO WITH THAT? 03:40.823 --> 03:42.324 THAT? >> THEY WANT TO USE THAT DATA TO 03:42.325 --> 03:43.425 >> THEY WANT TO USE THAT DATA TO PROVE WHO COMMITTED A CRIME. 03:43.459 --> 03:45.327 PROVE WHO COMMITTED A CRIME. IT’S THE SAME WAY YOU HAVE TO BE 03:45.328 --> 03:48.697 IT’S THE SAME WAY YOU HAVE TO BE FINGERPRINTED IF YOU GO THROUGH 03:48.731 --> 03:51.433 FINGERPRINTED IF YOU GO THROUGH OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM HERE. 03:51.467 --> 03:53.035 OUR JUDICIAL SYSTEM HERE. IF YOU’RE EVEN SUSPECTED OF 03:53.036 --> 03:54.904 IF YOU’RE EVEN SUSPECTED OF COMMITTING A CRIME, YOU GIVE 03:54.938 --> 03:58.740 COMMITTING A CRIME, YOU GIVE OVER YOUR FINGERPRINTS, DO A DNA 03:58.742 --> 03:59.040 OVER YOUR FINGERPRINTS, DO A DNA SWAB. 03:59.042 --> 04:00.542 SWAB. THE REASON WHY THIS IS DIFFERENT 04:00.544 --> 04:01.810 THE REASON WHY THIS IS DIFFERENT IS BECAUSE THESE IMMIGRANTS HAVE 04:01.811 --> 04:06.315 IS BECAUSE THESE IMMIGRANTS HAVE NOT BEEN CHARGED OR NOT BEEN 04:06.316 --> 04:07.850 NOT BEEN CHARGED OR NOT BEEN SUSPECTED OF COMMITTING A 04:07.851 --> 04:08.150 SUSPECTED OF COMMITTING A FELONY. 04:08.185 --> 04:10.319 FELONY. MANY ARE CROSSING THE BORDER 04:10.353 --> 04:11.720 MANY ARE CROSSING THE BORDER SIMPLY TO CLAIM ASYLUM. 04:11.721 --> 04:13.055 SIMPLY TO CLAIM ASYLUM. THE GOVERNMENT DOES SAY THEY 04:13.056 --> 04:14.723 THE GOVERNMENT DOES SAY THEY WILL NOT TAKE DNA ON PEOPLE WHO 04:14.724 --> 04:16.959 WILL NOT TAKE DNA ON PEOPLE WHO COME TO THE BORDER AND CLAIM 04:16.960 --> 04:18.460 COME TO THE BORDER AND CLAIM ASYLUM LEGALLY. 04:18.462 --> 04:20.028 ASYLUM LEGALLY. YOU HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT 04:20.030 --> 04:22.364 YOU HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT WE’RE DOING AT THE BORDER FOR 04:22.366 --> 04:23.165 WE’RE DOING AT THE BORDER FOR ASYLUM SEEKERS. 04:23.166 --> 04:24.767 ASYLUM SEEKERS. WE’RE MAKING THEM WAIT MONTHS TO 04:24.801 --> 04:26.035 WE’RE MAKING THEM WAIT MONTHS TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE THEY CAN 04:26.069 --> 04:27.569 GET TO THE POINT WHERE THEY CAN MAKE THAT CLAIM. 04:27.571 --> 04:28.637 MAKE THAT CLAIM. SO MORE AND MORE OF THESE 04:28.638 --> 04:30.639 SO MORE AND MORE OF THESE FAMILIES ARE BEING FORCED TO 04:30.640 --> 04:32.574 FAMILIES ARE BEING FORCED TO MAKE THESE DANGEROUS JOURNEYS. 04:32.576 --> 04:33.375 MAKE THESE DANGEROUS JOURNEYS. THEY’RE TAKING THEIR FAMILIES 04:33.410 --> 04:35.844 THEY’RE TAKING THEIR FAMILIES ACROSS THE RIO GRAEND RIVER. 04:35.879 --> 04:38.247 ACROSS THE RIO GRAEND RIVER. YOU’VE SEEN HORRIFIC PICTURES 04:38.248 --> 04:39.348 YOU’VE SEEN HORRIFIC PICTURES WHEN THAT DOESN’T WORK OUT. 04:39.349 --> 04:40.683 WHEN THAT DOESN’T WORK OUT. THEY’RE COMING HERE TO MAKE THIS 04:40.717 --> 04:40.983 THEY’RE COMING HERE TO MAKE THIS CLAIM. 04:40.984 --> 04:43.919 CLAIM. NOW THEY WANT TO START SWABBING 04:43.954 --> 04:45.654 NOW THEY WANT TO START SWABBING THOUSANDS WHILE IN DETENTION. 04:45.656 --> 04:47.089 THOUSANDS WHILE IN DETENTION. JUST FROM BOTH SIDES OF THIS, 04:47.090 --> 04:48.958 JUST FROM BOTH SIDES OF THIS, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CIVIL 04:48.959 --> 04:51.694 LAW ENFORCEMENT AND CIVIL LIBERTIES, I’M HEARING A LOT OF 04:51.695 --> 04:52.395 LIBERTIES, I’M HEARING A LOT OF OUTRAGE OVER THIS POLICY. 04:52.396 --> 04:53.662 OUTRAGE OVER THIS POLICY. CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION 04:53.664 --> 04:55.297 CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION SAY THEY DON’T HOLD THESE PEOPLE 04:55.331 --> 04:57.366 SAY THEY DON’T HOLD THESE PEOPLE LONG ENOUGH TO DNA SWAB ALL OF 04:57.401 --> 04:57.700 LONG ENOUGH TO DNA SWAB ALL OF THEM. 04:57.701 --> 05:01.103 THEM. THIS SHOULD REALLY BE THE JOB OF 05:01.138 --> 05:01.503 THIS SHOULD REALLY BE THE JOB OF IMMIGRATION. 05:01.505 --> 05:03.005 IMMIGRATION. CUSTOM ENFORCEMENT WILL HOLD 05:03.007 --> 05:04.240 CUSTOM ENFORCEMENT WILL HOLD THESE IMMIGRANTS LONGER. 05:04.274 --> 05:06.909 THESE IMMIGRANTS LONGER. THE ACLU CAME OUT WITH WITH I A 05:06.910 --> 05:09.111 THE ACLU CAME OUT WITH WITH I A STATEMENT SAYING THIS IS 05:09.146 --> 05:09.511 STATEMENT SAYING THIS IS XENOPHOBIC. 05:09.513 --> 05:11.681 XENOPHOBIC. THIS IS TRYING TO CREATE A MASS 05:11.715 --> 05:13.115 THIS IS TRYING TO CREATE A MASS DATABASE ON IMMIGRANTS BECAUSE 05:13.150 --> 05:14.617 DATABASE ON IMMIGRANTS BECAUSE YOU’RE ASSUMING THEY’RE ALL HERE 05:14.618 --> 05:15.785 YOU’RE ASSUMING THEY’RE ALL HERE TO COMMIT CRIMES AND IT FEEDS 05:15.819 --> 05:17.420 TO COMMIT CRIMES AND IT FEEDS INTO THE PRESIDENT’S RHETORIC ON 05:17.454 --> 05:17.854 INTO THE PRESIDENT’S RHETORIC ON IMMIGRATION. 05:17.888 --> 05:19.822 IMMIGRATION. >> JULIA, IT SOUNDS LIKE JUST 05:19.823 --> 05:21.924 >> JULIA, IT SOUNDS LIKE JUST ABOUT EVERYONE IS CRITICIZING 05:21.925 --> 05:22.691 ABOUT EVERYONE IS CRITICIZING IT, OUTSIDE OF THE 05:22.693 --> 05:23.126 IT, OUTSIDE OF THE ADMINISTRATION. 05:23.160 --> 05:24.127 ADMINISTRATION. ARE WE HEARING ANYONE IN FAVOR 05:24.128 --> 05:24.627 ARE WE HEARING ANYONE IN FAVOR OF IT? 05:24.629 --> 05:26.963 OF IT? >> WELL, THE TALKING POINTS FOR 05:26.997 --> 05:28.531 >> WELL, THE TALKING POINTS FOR THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT -- 05:28.532 --> 05:29.532 THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT -- ACTUALLY, THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT 05:29.566 --> 05:31.801 ACTUALLY, THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT PUT THIS OUT, NOT DHS, EVEN 05:31.835 --> 05:32.802 PUT THIS OUT, NOT DHS, EVEN THOUGH IT’S A WRITTEN POLICY 05:32.803 --> 05:35.104 THOUGH IT’S A WRITTEN POLICY THAT DHS WILL HAVE TO IMPLEMENT. 05:35.105 --> 05:37.840 THAT DHS WILL HAVE TO IMPLEMENT. THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SAID, 05:37.874 --> 05:40.242 THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SAID, LOOK, THIS IS WITH ACCORDANCE 05:40.244 --> 05:40.977 LOOK, THIS IS WITH ACCORDANCE WITH OUR LAWS. 05:41.011 --> 05:42.912 WITH OUR LAWS. IF YOU’RE COMING HERE ILLEGALLY, 05:42.913 --> 05:44.847 IF YOU’RE COMING HERE ILLEGALLY, CROSSING THE BORDER ILLEGALLY, 05:44.848 --> 05:45.848 CROSSING THE BORDER ILLEGALLY, WE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO GET 05:45.849 --> 05:49.052 WE SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO GET YOUR DNA PRINT JUST LIKE WE 05:49.086 --> 05:50.253 YOUR DNA PRINT JUST LIKE WE WOULD SOMEONE WHO COMMITTED A 05:50.254 --> 05:52.255 WOULD SOMEONE WHO COMMITTED A CRIME, A U.S. CITIZEN INTERNALLY 05:52.256 --> 05:54.390 CRIME, A U.S. CITIZEN INTERNALLY AND THEY COULD USE THAT DOWN THE 05:54.425 --> 05:57.427 AND THEY COULD USE THAT DOWN THE ROAD IN TRYING TO SOLVE CRIMES. 05:57.428 --> 05:59.062 ROAD IN TRYING TO SOLVE CRIMES. I THINK FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT 05:59.063 --> 06:01.030 I THINK FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSPECTIVE, THAT’S WHAT WE’RE 06:01.032 --> 06:01.364 PERSPECTIVE, THAT’S WHAT WE’RE HEARING. 06:01.365 --> 06:02.532 HEARING. CERTAINLY A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH 06:02.533 --> 06:03.066 CERTAINLY A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH IT. 06:03.067 --> 06:05.368 IT. BOTH FROM A LOGISTICAL 06:05.403 --> 06:06.035 BOTH FROM A LOGISTICAL STANDPOINT AND CIVIL LIBERTIES.