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THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

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>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

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IT’S GOOD TO BE HERE.

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>> ABSOLUTELY.

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SO STARTING ON RACIAL JUSTICE,

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WHEN YOU SEE EVERYTHING

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HAPPENING, WHAT WE JUST SAW

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THERE IN WISCONSIN, WHAT IS

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IMPORTANT FROM YOUR WORK ABOUT

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COUNTERING THAT?

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>> WELL, EXACTLY WHAT THE BOOK

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SAYS.

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SUPERMAN IS NOT COMING.

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WE DO SEE ENVIRONMENTAL RACISM

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AND THEY OFTENTIMES BEAR THE

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BRUNT OF THE ISSUE.

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AND IT DEFINITELY TAKES LONGER

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TO FIX.

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BUT WE’RE SEEING IT EVERYWHERE.

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AND I THINK THAT’S ONE THING

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THAT’S HAPPENING AS WE’RE WAKING

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UP AND YOU’RE WATCHING THIS  WAT

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UNFOLD.

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IT HAS BEEN YEARS OF NO ACTION.

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THEY HAVE FELT THEY CAN’T SPEAK

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UP.

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THEY’VE BEEN SUPPRESSED BACK NOT

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TO SPEAK UP.

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THERE’S BEEN SOCIOECONOMIC

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FACTORS.

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THERE’S BEEN DECEPTIONS.

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THERE’S THE IDEA THAT THEY’RE

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GOING TO GO AWAY, AND THEY’VE

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BEEN OVERLOOKED AND WE ARE NOT

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LISTENING, AND I THINK WE’RE AT

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A MOMENT WHERE WE ARE SEEING IT,

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ACKNOWLEDGING IT, SPEAKING OUT

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AGAINST IT.

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AND UP FOR IT, AND GETTING RIGHT

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DOWN TO WE, THE PEOPLE.

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WHERE IF THIS ISN’T GOING TO GET

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DONE, WE HAVE TO ACT.

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WE HAVE TO GET INVOLVED.

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WE HAVE TO JOIN TOGETHER.

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AND WE HAVE TO MAKE A CHANGE.

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>> HOW MUCH OF ENVIRONMENTAL

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JUSTICE IN TODAY’S GLOBAL WORLD

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REQUIRES PEOPLE UNDERSTANDING

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AND REGULATING WHAT

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INTERNATIONAL CORPORATIONS DO?

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BECAUSE SOME OF THEM ARE AS

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POWERFUL AS COUNTRIES, IF NOT

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MORE SO.

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THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FOREIGN

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POLICY.

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AND PART OF THE ARGUMENT YOU AND

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OTHERS HAVE ALLUDED TO, YES,

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THEY MAKE MONEY AND EMPLOY

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PEOPLE AND PEOPLE NEED JOBS.

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BUT SOMETIMES WHAT THEY DO IS

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EXTERNALIZE THEIR COSTS, SO WE

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READ ABOUT THIS SETTLEMENT OR

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WHAT IT TAKES TO MAKE PEOPLE

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WHOLE AND SOMETIMES TAXPAYERS

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FOOT THE BILL FOR THAT LATER,

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WHILE IN THE SHORT RUN THE

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CORPORATION SAYS LOOK HOW MUCH

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MONEY WE MADE.

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>> CORRECT.

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AND YOU KNOW, WE OFTEN TALK

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ABOUT WE NEED -- WE’RE DOING

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THINGS KIND OF ASS BACKWARDS

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THAT WAY IF YOU WILL, AND WE

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NEED TO LOOK AT THE NEW BUSINESS

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MODELS, IF YOU WILL.

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THE IDEA YOU HAVE TO DO IT THE

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WAY YOU DO IT IN ORDER TO MAKE

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BUSINESS IS RIDICULOUS, BECAUSE

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THE ENVIRONMENT IS BEING

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DEGRADED, PEOPLE ARE BEING

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HARMED, OUR HEALTH IS SUFFERING.

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WE HAVE TO START PUTTING

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INFRASTRUCTURE, SAFETY, AND

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PEOPLE FIRST.

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AND WHEN YOU DO THAT, I THINK

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THERE’S THIS IDEA THAT IF YOU

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DON’T DO THAT, YOU DON’T MAKE

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MONEY, WHICH IS RIDICULOUS.

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I THINK THAT IS LIKE THE GIG IS

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UP.

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WE’RE ALL STARTING TO SEE WHAT

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IS HAPPENING.

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AND IT’S A BUSINESS MODEL THAT

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DOESN’T SERVE ANY OF US MOVING

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FORWARD INTO THE FUTURE.

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AND WE’VE NEGLECTED PUTTING OUR

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MONEY FIRST IN INFRASTRUCTURE,

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SAFETY, AND PEOPLE AND DOWN THE

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LINE CREATING HORRIFIC

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SCENARIOS, HUGE LAWSUITS AND

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BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS

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THAT YOU HAVE GONE IN ON THE

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UPFRONT FOR INFRASTRUCTURE

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SAFETY AND PEOPLE FIRST.

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>> UNDERSTOOD.

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POLITICALLY, OF COURSE, WE ALL

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KNOW HOW POLARIZED SO MANY

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THINGS ARE.

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BUT IT’S USEFUL TO REMEMBER THAT

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THERE WERE PRESIDENTS WHO HAPPEN

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TO BE REPUBLICANS THAT DID A LOT

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FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AND

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CONSERVATION, ROOSEVELT, NIXON.

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>> YES, YES.

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>> AND THERE’S NOTHING

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AUTOMATICALLY CONSERVATIVE OR

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RIGHT WING ABOUT BEING AGAINST

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CONSERVATION OR THE GLOBE.

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TAKE A LOOK AT NIXON COMPARED TO

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TODAY.

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>> WE CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO

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CONSIDER AIR AND WATER COMMON

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PROPERTY.

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FREE TO BE ABUSED BY ANYONE

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WITHOUT REGARD TO THE

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CONSEQUENCES.

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INSTEAD, WE SHOULD BEGIN TO

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TREAT THEM AS SCARCE RESOURCES,

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WHICH WE ARE NO MORE FREE TO

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CONTAMINATE THAN WE ARE FREE TO

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THROW GARBAGE INTO OUR

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NEIGHBOR’S YARD.

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>> PARIS CLIMATE ACCORD, WHICH

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WAS UNBELIEVABLY EXPENSIVE TO

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OUR COUNTRY, WOULD HAVE CRUSHED

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AMERICAN MANUFACTURERS.

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WE STOPPED TO EGREGIOUS ABUSE OF

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THE CLEAN WATER ACT, WHICH HAS

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SHUT DOWN CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS

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ACROSS OUR COUNTRY.

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>> WHAT DO YOU SEE THERE IN THAT

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EVOLUTION?

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>> WE TALK ABOUT THAT SPEECH IN

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MY BOOK, SUPERMAN’S NOT COMING,

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AND I DON’T UNDERSTAND THE

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POLITICS OF IT REALLY DRIVES ME

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CRAZY.

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I WAS ACTUALLY RAISED BY A

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REPUBLICAN MAN WHO WORKED FOR

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INDUSTRY AND TAUGHT ME THE VERY

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VALUE OF THE ENVIRONMENT AND

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WATER AND CLEAN AIR.

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IT’S LIKE THE PARTY HAS MOVED

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AWAY FROM THAT.

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THIS SHOULD BE BOTH SIDE OF THE

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ISLE’S ISSUE FOR THE COMMON GOOD

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FOR ALL OF US.

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THE POLITIC MAKES A BIG, BIG

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PROBLEM IN GETTING THAT MESSAGE

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OUT.

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AND WE HAVE MADE SOME TERRIBLE

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ENVIRONMENTAL MOVES, LEAVING THE

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PARIS CLIMATE ACCORD, ROLLING

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BACK REGULATIONS, AND THE SPLIT.

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WE HAVE SOMEHOW GOT TO COME BACK

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TO THAT MIDDLE AGAIN WHERE WE

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RESPECT, ESPECIALLY ON THE

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ISSUES OF WATER AND AIR FOR NOT

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ONLY EVERYBODY HERE IN OUR

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COUNTRY, BUT ON THIS ENTIRE

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PLANET THAT WE ALL CALL HOME.

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AND’9" IS IN PERIL.

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EVERY ONE OF US IS EXPERIENCING

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AND SEEING WHAT’S HAPPENING.

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WITH BACK-TO-BACK HURRICANES,

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MORE FLOODING, RISING SEA

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LEVELS, DROUGHT ON THE WEST

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COAST, MORE FIRES BURNING HOT.

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I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY BOTH

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SIDES OF THE AISLE PUT DOWN THE

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FIGHT, GET BACK TO YOUR JOB, GET

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TO THE BUSINESS AT HAND, OF THE

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ENVIRONMENT, WHICH ALL OF IT

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CANNOT BE SUSTAINED WITHOUT.

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>> RIGHT.
