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>>> I WANT TO BRING INTO THE

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>>> I WANT TO BRING INTO THE
CONVERSATION NOW SOMEONE WITH

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CONVERSATION NOW SOMEONE WITH
EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN THE

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EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE IN THE
MIDDLE EAST.

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MIDDLE EAST.
HE WAS ALSO SPECIAL PRESIDENTIAL

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HE WAS ALSO SPECIAL PRESIDENTIAL
ENVOY TO THE GLOBAL COALITION TO

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ENVOY TO THE GLOBAL COALITION TO
DEFEAT ISIS.

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DEFEAT ISIS.
FIRST UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA AND

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FIRST UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA AND
THEN UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP.

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THEN UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP.
HE LEFT THAT ROLE LATE 2018

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HE LEFT THAT ROLE LATE 2018
AFTER TRUMP ANNOUNCED A PLAN TO

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AFTER TRUMP ANNOUNCED A PLAN TO
PULL U.S. TROOPS OUT OF SYRIA.

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PULL U.S. TROOPS OUT OF SYRIA.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US

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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US
TONIGHT ON SHORT NOTICE AND ON A

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TONIGHT ON SHORT NOTICE AND ON A
VERY SERIOUS EVENING.

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VERY SERIOUS EVENING.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

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>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
>> I KNOW YOU’VE BEEN FOLLOWING

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>> I KNOW YOU’VE BEEN FOLLOWING
THE NEWS AS WE ALL HAVE.

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THE NEWS AS WE ALL HAVE.
I ASSUME YOU’VE BEEN ABLE TO

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I ASSUME YOU’VE BEEN ABLE TO
TALK WITH SOME OF YOUR FORMER

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TALK WITH SOME OF YOUR FORMER
COLLEAGUE FROM GOVERNMENT AND

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COLLEAGUE FROM GOVERNMENT AND
OTHER EXPERTS IN THE REGION.

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OTHER EXPERTS IN THE REGION.
LET ME JUST ASK YOU YOUR TOP

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LET ME JUST ASK YOU YOUR TOP
LINE RESPONSE TO THIS NEWS

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LINE RESPONSE TO THIS NEWS
TONIGHT THAT THE HEAD OF THE

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TONIGHT THAT THE HEAD OF THE
QUDS FORCE WAS KILLED IN A

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QUDS FORCE WAS KILLED IN A
MILITARY STRIKE IN BAGHDAD?

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MILITARY STRIKE IN BAGHDAD?
>> AS AN AMERICAN WHO HAS SERVED

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>> AS AN AMERICAN WHO HAS SERVED
A LOT OF TIME IN IRAQ INCLUDING

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A LOT OF TIME IN IRAQ INCLUDING
2007, 2008 PERIOD WHEN WE WERE

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2007, 2008 PERIOD WHEN WE WERE
IN A HOT WAR WITH A LOT OF THESE

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IN A HOT WAR WITH A LOT OF THESE
IRANIAN BACKED GROUPS, I REALLY

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IRANIAN BACKED GROUPS, I REALLY
FEEL IT’S A MEASURE OF JUSTICE

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FEEL IT’S A MEASURE OF JUSTICE
DONE.

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DONE.
I FEEL AS AN AMERICAN, AS

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I FEEL AS AN AMERICAN, AS
SOMEONE WHO’S BEEN OUT THERE FOR

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SOMEONE WHO’S BEEN OUT THERE FOR
A SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF MY LIFE

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A SIGNIFICANT PERIOD OF MY LIFE
AND I KNOW I HAVE COLLEAGUES WHO

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AND I KNOW I HAVE COLLEAGUES WHO
WERE KILLED BY SOME OF THESE

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WERE KILLED BY SOME OF THESE
GROUPS, I’M ALSO HEARING FROM

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GROUPS, I’M ALSO HEARING FROM
FORMER COLLEAGUES IN THE REGION

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FORMER COLLEAGUES IN THE REGION
A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT WHERE ALL

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A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT WHERE ALL
THIS GOES.

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THIS GOES.
I THINK WE NEED TO PRESUME NOW

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I THINK WE NEED TO PRESUME NOW
AS A COUNTRY -- LIKE IT OR NOT,

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AS A COUNTRY -- LIKE IT OR NOT,
WE NEED TO PRESUME WE’RE IN A

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WE NEED TO PRESUME WE’RE IN A
STATE OF WAR WITH IRAN.

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STATE OF WAR WITH IRAN.
THIS HAS BEEN A COVERT WAR, A

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THIS HAS BEEN A COVERT WAR, A
SHADOW WAR FOR 30 YEARS BUT I

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SHADOW WAR FOR 30 YEARS BUT I
THINK THIS ACTION WE NEED TO

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THINK THIS ACTION WE NEED TO
PRESUME TO PROTECT OUR INTERESTS

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PRESUME TO PROTECT OUR INTERESTS
THAT WE’RE IN A STATE OF WAR

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THAT WE’RE IN A STATE OF WAR
WITH IRAN, AND THAT IS NOT

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WITH IRAN, AND THAT IS NOT
SOMETHING THAT THE TRUMP

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SOMETHING THAT THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION APPEARS TO HAVE

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ADMINISTRATION APPEARS TO HAVE
BEEN PREPARED FOR.

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BEEN PREPARED FOR.
THEIR NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGY

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THEIR NATIONAL SECURITY STRATEGY
IS ACTUALLY PREMISED ON THE

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IS ACTUALLY PREMISED ON THE
NOTION OF GETTING OUT OF MIDDLE

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NOTION OF GETTING OUT OF MIDDLE
EAST COMMITMENTS AND

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EAST COMMITMENTS AND
REPRIORITIZING TO ASIA, TO A

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REPRIORITIZING TO ASIA, TO A
GREAT POWER COMPETITION AGAINST

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GREAT POWER COMPETITION AGAINST
CHINA.

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CHINA.
SO I THINK THAT IS NOW PRETTY

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SO I THINK THAT IS NOW PRETTY
MUCH OVER.

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MUCH OVER.
WE’RE NOW DRAWN BACK INTO THE

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WE’RE NOW DRAWN BACK INTO THE
MIDDLE EAST, AND WE NEED TO BE

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MIDDLE EAST, AND WE NEED TO BE
VERY WELL PREPARED NOT ONLY OVER

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VERY WELL PREPARED NOT ONLY OVER
THE COMING DAYS AND WEEKS, IRAN

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THE COMING DAYS AND WEEKS, IRAN
MIGHT TAKE SOME TIME TO RESPOND

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MIGHT TAKE SOME TIME TO RESPOND
BUT OVER THE COMING MONTHS AND

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BUT OVER THE COMING MONTHS AND
YEARS TO PROTECT OUR PEOPLE AND

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YEARS TO PROTECT OUR PEOPLE AND
OUR INTERESTS.

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OUR INTERESTS.
IT’S A VERY SERIOUS SITUATION.

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IT’S A VERY SERIOUS SITUATION.
>> IF WE ARE AS YOU SAY TO

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>> IF WE ARE AS YOU SAY TO
PRESUME THAT WE ARE IN A STATE

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PRESUME THAT WE ARE IN A STATE
OF WAR WITH IRAN NOW, NOT THAT

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OF WAR WITH IRAN NOW, NOT THAT
IT IS THREATENING BUT WE ARE

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IT IS THREATENING BUT WE ARE
THERE BECAUSE OF THIS ACTION,

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THERE BECAUSE OF THIS ACTION,
WHAT SHOULD AMERICANS EXPECT

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WHAT SHOULD AMERICANS EXPECT
FROM A WAR WITH IRAN?

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FROM A WAR WITH IRAN?
WHAT SHOULD WE EXPECT IN TERMS

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WHAT SHOULD WE EXPECT IN TERMS
OF RISK TO THE UNITED STATES AND

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OF RISK TO THE UNITED STATES AND
TO U.S. ALLIES AND U.S. FORCES

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TO U.S. ALLIES AND U.S. FORCES
AND ASSETS AROUND THE WORLD?

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AND ASSETS AROUND THE WORLD?
>> WELL, IT MEANS WE ARE NOW --

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>> WELL, IT MEANS WE ARE NOW --
WE HAVE IN BEEN TRYING NOW FOR

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WE HAVE IN BEEN TRYING NOW FOR
REALLY TWO ADMINISTRATIONS TO

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REALLY TWO ADMINISTRATIONS TO
TRY AND REPRIORITIZE OUT OF THE

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TRY AND REPRIORITIZE OUT OF THE
MIDDLE EAST BECAUSE THIS HAS

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MIDDLE EAST BECAUSE THIS HAS
BEEN SUCH A RESOURCE KIND OF

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BEEN SUCH A RESOURCE KIND OF
BLACK DARK HOLE FOR US.

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BLACK DARK HOLE FOR US.
AND WREE TRY TO DO THAT IN

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AND WREE TRY TO DO THAT IN
VARIOUS WAYS, AND IT TURNS OUT

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VARIOUS WAYS, AND IT TURNS OUT
NOW TWO ADMINISTRATION WERE KIND

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NOW TWO ADMINISTRATION WERE KIND
OF SUCKED BACK IN.

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OF SUCKED BACK IN.
I THINK IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT

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I THINK IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT
NOW TO REALLY SIGNIFICANTLY MOVE

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NOW TO REALLY SIGNIFICANTLY MOVE
FORCES AND RESOURCES OUT.

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FORCES AND RESOURCES OUT.
I MEAN PRESIDENT TRUMP EVEN AS

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I MEAN PRESIDENT TRUMP EVEN AS
HE SAYS HE’S BRINGING FORCES OUT

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HE SAYS HE’S BRINGING FORCES OUT
OF THE MIDDLE EAST, HE’S

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OF THE MIDDLE EAST, HE’S
ACTUALLY SENT 15,000 TROOP

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ACTUALLY SENT 15,000 TROOP
TUESDAY THE MIDDLE EAST SINCE

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TUESDAY THE MIDDLE EAST SINCE
MAY BECAUSE OF THE INCREASING

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MAY BECAUSE OF THE INCREASING
TENSIONS AGAINST IRAN AND

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TENSIONS AGAINST IRAN AND
BECAUSE OF THE CONSEQUENCES THAT

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BECAUSE OF THE CONSEQUENCES THAT
BEGAN TO UNFOLD WHEN HE GOT OUT

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BEGAN TO UNFOLD WHEN HE GOT OUT
OF THE IRAN DEAL.

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OF THE IRAN DEAL.
ANOTHER THING HERE IF YOU WANT

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ANOTHER THING HERE IF YOU WANT
TO TAKE ON A SITUATION LIKE THIS

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TO TAKE ON A SITUATION LIKE THIS
AND SET A VERY MAXIMALEST

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AND SET A VERY MAXIMALEST
OBJECTIVE WHICH IS TO KBASLY

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OBJECTIVE WHICH IS TO KBASLY
BRING DOWN THE IRANIAN REGIME,

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BRING DOWN THE IRANIAN REGIME,
WHICH SEEMS TO BE THE POLICY,

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WHICH SEEMS TO BE THE POLICY,
THAT IS AN OBJECTIVE FOR WHICH

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THAT IS AN OBJECTIVE FOR WHICH
WE HAVE VERY FEW ALLIES.

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WE HAVE VERY FEW ALLIES.
IN IRAQ RIGHT NOW IT’S NOT JUST

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IN IRAQ RIGHT NOW IT’S NOT JUST
U.S. TROOPS WE HAVE A PART OF

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U.S. TROOPS WE HAVE A PART OF
THIS EFFORT TO BUILD A

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THIS EFFORT TO BUILD A
COALITION.

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COALITION.
WE BUILT A COALITION OF ALMOST

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WE BUILT A COALITION OF ALMOST
20 MILITARY CONTRIBUTORS IN IRAQ

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20 MILITARY CONTRIBUTORS IN IRAQ
WITH US.

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WITH US.
FRANCE, THE U.K., DEN MARK,

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FRANCE, THE U.K., DEN MARK,
AUSTRALIA, NEW ZEALAND, THEY’RE

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AUSTRALIA, NEW ZEALAND, THEY’RE
ALL THERE WITH US AND THAT’S

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ALL THERE WITH US AND THAT’S
BEEN A VERY SUCCESSFUL ENDEAVOR,

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BEEN A VERY SUCCESSFUL ENDEAVOR,
AND I THINK THEY’RE ALSO ASKING

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AND I THINK THEY’RE ALSO ASKING
WHAT COMES NEXT.

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WHAT COMES NEXT.
JUST ON THAT POINT I THINK A

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JUST ON THAT POINT I THINK A
STRATEGIC RISK IS THAT WE WILL

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STRATEGIC RISK IS THAT WE WILL
BE ASKED TO LEAVE IRAQ.

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BE ASKED TO LEAVE IRAQ.
I THINK THE IRAQI GOVERNMENT

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I THINK THE IRAQI GOVERNMENT
RIGHT NOW IS EXTREMELY WEAK.

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RIGHT NOW IS EXTREMELY WEAK.
THERE IS A PROTEST MOVEMENT,

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THERE IS A PROTEST MOVEMENT,
KIND OF A DUAL PROTEST MOVEMENT

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KIND OF A DUAL PROTEST MOVEMENT
AMONG SHIA GROUPS, SOME ARE

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AMONG SHIA GROUPS, SOME ARE
BACKED BY IRAN AND SOME ARE PATE

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BACKED BY IRAN AND SOME ARE PATE
PATRIOTIC LIBERAL ORIENTED WHO

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PATRIOTIC LIBERAL ORIENTED WHO
WANT TO SEE REFORMS.

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WANT TO SEE REFORMS.
AND THE IRAQIS COULD ASK TO

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AND THE IRAQIS COULD ASK TO
LEAVE IRAN AND SO ALL THE GAMES

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LEAVE IRAN AND SO ALL THE GAMES
AGAINST ISIS FOR THE RAST FIVE

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AGAINST ISIS FOR THE RAST FIVE
YEARS COULD ALSO BEGIN TO

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YEARS COULD ALSO BEGIN TO
UNRAVEL.

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UNRAVEL.
ALL THAT SAID I WANT TO

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ALL THAT SAID I WANT TO
EMPHASIZE AS AN AMERICAN I FEEL

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EMPHASIZE AS AN AMERICAN I FEEL
THIS IS MEASURE OF JUSTICE, BUT

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THIS IS MEASURE OF JUSTICE, BUT
I’M ALSO CONCERNED THAT THE

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I’M ALSO CONCERNED THAT THE
SECOND OR THIRD ORDER

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SECOND OR THIRD ORDER
CONSEQUENCES HAVE NOT BEEN

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CONSEQUENCES HAVE NOT BEEN
ADEQUATELY PREPARED FOR AND I

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ADEQUATELY PREPARED FOR AND I
THINK IT’S INCUMBENT ON CONGRESS