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MR. BLAKE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH

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FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.

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WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

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WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO DONALD

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TRUMP VISITING KENOSHA TODAY?

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>> WELL, LAWRENCE, I’D LIKE TO

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THANK YOU FOR HAVING US THIS

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EVENING

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EVENING, BUT I DON’T HAVE AN

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OPINION ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP.

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MY OPINION IS ABOUT SAVING MY

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SON’S LIFE AND JUST THE HEALTH

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OF MY SON MATTERS TO ME.

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POLITICS RIGHT NOW, IF YOU’RE

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NOT TALKING ABOUT POLICE REFORM,

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IF YOU’RE NOT TALKING ABOUT

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POLICE DE-ESCALATING SITUATIONS

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INSTEAD OF ESCALATING

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SITUATIONS, I DON’T HAVE AN -- I

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DON’T HAVE A POLITICAL MOVE.

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>> TELL US --

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>> I’M NOT A CHESS PIECE.

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NEITHER IS MY SON.

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>> PLEASE TELL US ABOUT YOUR SON

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AND HOW HE’S DOING TONIGHT.

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>> HE -- LAWRENCE, HE’S

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FIGHTING.

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HE’S FIGHTING, YOU KNOW, FOR HIS

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LITERAL LIFE, NOT FIGURATIVELY,

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FOR HIS LITERAL LIFE.

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AND HE’S DOING A GOOD JOB.

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BEING PARALYZED FROM THE WAIST

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DOWN RIGHT NOW IS A TERRIBLE

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THING.

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>> WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD

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HAVE TOLD DONALD TRUMP IF DONALD

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TRUMP HAD MET WITH YOU?

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>> I WOULD HAVE NEVER -- IT

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WASN’T A -- IT’S NOT A POLITICAL

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OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE A POLITICAL

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STANCE FOR ANYTHING BECAUSE THE

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ONLY THING THAT MATTERS TO ME IS

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MY SON.

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SO IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A BUNCH OF

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DEAD AIR.

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>> BENJAMIN CRUMP, AS YOU KNOW,

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AT THE WHITE HOUSE YESTERDAY

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DONALD TRUMP SAID HE WOULD HAVE

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BEEN WILLING TO MEET WITH JACOB

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BLAKE’S FAMILY, BUT HE DIDN’T

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WANT LAWYERS PRESENT.

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HE DIDN’T MENTION YOUR NAME, BUT

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HE WAS SAYING THAT HE UNDERSTOOD

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THAT YOU WANTED TO BE PRESENT,

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AND THEREFORE I GUESS IN DONALD

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TRUMP’S WAY OF DESCRIBING THIS,

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YOU’RE THE REASON HE DIDN’T MEET

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WITH THE FAMILY.

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>> LAWRENCE, MR. BLAKE, MISS

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JULIA, AND THEIR FAMILY HAS

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EVERY RIGHT TO HAVE THEIR LEGAL

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REPRESENTATIVES PRESENT,

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ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ARE MEETING

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WITH ANY GOVERNMENT FIGURE THAT

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MAY ULTIMATELY BE ABLE TO DECIDE

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THE ACCOUNTABILITY OF THE POLICE

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OFFICERS WHO SHOT THEIR SON

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SEVEN TIMES IN THE BACK IN FRONT

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OF THEIR THREE LITTLE BOYS,

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ESPECIALLY WITH AN DEPARTMENT OF

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JUSTICE INVESTIGATION GOING, YOU

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ABSOLUTELY WOULD WANT YOUR

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COUNSEL PRESENT.

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DOESN’T PRESIDENT TRUMP HAVE HIS

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LAWYERS WITH HIM WHEN HE MAKES

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STATEMENTS IN LITIGATION?

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IT JUST BOGGLES OUR MIND WHEN

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TRAYVON MARTIN WAS CALLED BY

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PRESIDENT OBAMA.

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HIS FAMILY, THEY HAD NO PROBLEM

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WITH THE ATTORNEYS BEING ON THE

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PHONE.

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WHEN THEY CALLED MICHAEL BROWN

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IN FERGUSON, NO PROBLEM WITH THE

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ATTORNEYS BEING ON THE PHONE.

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WHEN VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN CALLED

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GEORGE FLOYD’S FAMILY, NO

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PROBLEM WITH THEIR ATTORNEY

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BEING ON THE PHONE.

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WHEN VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN AND

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SENATOR KAMALA HARRIS, LAWRENCE,

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CALLED JACOB BLAKE’S FAMILY AND

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SPOKE TO THEM FOR ABOUT AN HOUR,

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THEY HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH THE

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ATTORNEYS BEING ON THE PHONE.

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IT IS ONLY THIS PRESIDENT THAT

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HAS A PROBLEM WITH ATTORNEYS

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BEING ON THE PHONE WHEN HE’S

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TALKING TO THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN

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VICTIMS OF POLICE SHOOTINGS.

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>> MR. BLAKE, TELL US ABOUT YOUR

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CONVERSATION WITH JOE BIDEN AND

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KAMALA HARRIS, AND WAS THAT

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HELPFUL TO YOU?

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>> AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME, MY

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ENERGY WAS LOW.

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I WAS SO CONCERNED ABOUT MY SON,

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IT WAS ALMOST LIKE I WAS TALKING

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TO A FAMILY MEMBER, LIKE AN

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UNCLE OR SOMETHING.
AND WHEN I TELL YOU, LAWRENCE,

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AND WHEN I TELL YOU, LAWRENCE,

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THEY KEPT TALKING, FOR 57

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MINUTES, AND HE WAS NEVER IN A

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HURRY.

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HE NEVER RUSHED.

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HE SHARED THINGS WITH ME ABOUT

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HIS FAMILY AND VICE PRESIDENT

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HARRIS SHARED THINGS ABOUT HER

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FAMILY, AND IT WAS SOME REAL

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REAL.

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AND THEY COMFORTED MY DAUGHTER,

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AND THEY COMFORTED MY SON’S

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MOTHER.

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IT WAS REALLY KIND OF SURREAL,