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REPLIED, QUOTE, LEGAL ACTION IS

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CERTAINLY A POSSIBILITY, BUT

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THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS AS WELL

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THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING.

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NOW, SOMEONE WHO HAS UNIQUE

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INSIGHT INTO THE GSA AND THE

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TRANSITION PROCESS IS DENISE

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TURNER ROTH.

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AS HEAD OF THE GSA UNDER

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PRESIDENT OBAMA, IT WAS

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MS. TURNER ROTH WHO ASCERTAINED

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THE RESULTS OF THE 2016 ELECTION

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BETWEEN DONALD TRUMP AND HILLARY

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CLINTON.

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SHE DID SO ON NOVEMBER 9th,

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2016, ONE DAY AFTER THE

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ELECTION, TRIGGERING THE

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OFFICIAL START OF THE TRANSITION

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PERIOD FOR THEN-PRESIDENT-ELECT

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TRUMP.

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JOINING US NOW, AGAINDENISE TURN

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ROTH, SHE SERVED AS THE HEAD OF

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THE GSA UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA

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FROM 2015 UNTIL DONALD TRUMP’S

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INAUGURATION IN 2017

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MS. TURNER ROTH, THANK YOU FOR

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BEING WITH US THIS EVENING

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SUDDENLY YOUR ROLE THAT NOT MANY

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PEOPLE KNEW ABOUT HAS BECOME SO

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IMPORTANT.

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WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IT

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YOU HAD THE SAME ROLE IN 2016 OF

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DECIDING WHEN TO ASCERTAIN THE

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ELECTION RESULTS FOR DONALD

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TRUMP.

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WHAT FACTORS BACK THEN DID YOU

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RELY ON TOMAKE THAT

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DETERMINATION TO SIGN THE PAPER

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TO GET THE TRANSITION STARTED?

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>> WELL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME

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THIS EVENING

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IT’S GOOD TO BE WITH YOU

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THERE WERE A NUMBER OF ADVISERS

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AND OUR GENERAL COUNSEL THAT WE

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WERE ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT

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ACTUALLY WAS THE CIRCUMSTANCE,

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AND WE WERE LOOKING AT SOME KEY

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ASPECTS.

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HAD THE STATES CALLED THE

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ELECTION, WHAT WERE THE MAJOR

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NETWORKS REPORTING, AND ACTUALLY

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OVERNIGHT THERE WAS A CONCESSION

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AS WELL, SO THAT MADE THE

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DIRECTION MUCH MORE CLEAR.

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BUT WE DIDN’T HAVE TO HAVE A

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CONCESSION IN ORDER TO GO

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FORWARD.

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>> WHAT’S THE ISSUE HERE

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THERE’S BEEN A LOT OF FOCUS ON

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THINGS LIKE OFFICE SPACE

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BUT CLEARLY THE BIDEN

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ADMINISTRATION CAN FIDDLE AROUND

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AND DO THAT SOMEWHERE ELSE

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WHAT’S THE MAIN RISK OF A

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LENGTHY DELAY IN ASCERTAINING

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THE RESULTS?

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>> ACTUALLY, I THINK SOME OF THE

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REPORTING YOU DID BEFORE I CAME

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ON REALLY POINTED TO IT.

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THE GSA IS IN THE ROLE OF THE

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ACTUAL TRANSITION OF ALL OF

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GOVERNMENT, NOT JUST THE GSA

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SPACE, NOT JUST EMAIL ADDRESSES,

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BUT ACTUALLY ACCESSING THE

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LEADERSHIP OF AGENCIES, HAVING

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THOSE AGENCIES BE AVAILABLE AND

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RESPONSIVE TO THE TRANSITION

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LEADERSHIP TEAMS, HAVING THE

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MEETINGS, THE POLICY

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DEBRIEFINGS, ALL OF THOSE

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ACTIVITIES WILL OCCUR AS A PART

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OF THE NEW GOVERNMENT GETTING

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READY TO COME IN AND TAKE OVER

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NONE OF THOSE STEPS OR MANY OF

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THOSE STEPS, AND I THINK THE

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REPORTING SHOWS IT, ARE

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HAPPENING AT THIS MOMENT BECAUSE

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OF THE MOVEMENT OF THE -- THE

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LACK OF MOVEMENT OF THE

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TRANSITION

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THE ASCERTAINMENT TRULY HAS A

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KEY PART, AND IT GOES WELL

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BEYOND THE OFFICE SPACE.

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>> I THINK YOU MAKE AN IMPORTANT

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POINT.

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IT’S NOT THE GENERAL SERVICES

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ADMINISTRATION OF THE

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TRANSITION

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IT’S THE GENERAL SERVICES

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ADMINISTRATION OF THE UNITED

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STATES GOVERNMENT.

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IT IS ALL THE BUILDINGS.

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IT’S ALL THE KEYS.

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IT’S ALL THE PASSWORDS

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IT’S ALL THE COMPUTERS

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AND IT’S ALL THE ACCESS TO THE

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IMPORTANT INFORMATION.

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WE USED TO THINK ABOUT THIS IN A

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POST-9/11 WORLD IS THERE A

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NATIONAL SECURITY RISK

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NOW WE’RE IN THE COVID PANDEMIC,

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SO WE ACTUALLY NEED THE INCOMING

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ADMINISTRATION TO HAVE AS MUCH

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ACCESS AS POSSIBLE, THE

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BRIEFINGS NECESSARY, THE

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INTELLIGENCE NECESSARY TO MAKE

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THE RIGHT DECISIONS.

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>> THAT’S CORRECT.

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AND THE REASON THE PRESIDENTIAL

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TRANSITION ACT WAS PUT INTO

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PLACE IS TO ALLOW FOR THE SMOOTH

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TRANSITION OF GOVERNMENT TO

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OCCUR.

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PRIOR TO HAVING THAT, SOMETIMES

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THE TRANSITIONS WOULDN’T OCCUR

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AT ALL, OR THEY WOULD BE

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HAPHAZARD.

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EACH TIME THAT THERE’S BEEN

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REFINEMENT OF THE LAW, IT’S BEEN

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SO ENSURE THAT THAT TRANSITION

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HAPPENS AS QUICKLY, AS SMOOTHLY

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AS POSSIBLE.

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AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE

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SMOOTH TRANSITION OF GOVERNMENT,

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THE ACCURATE RUNNING OF OUR

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COUNTRY, THE EFFORTS THAT MOVE

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FORWARD TO ENSURE ONE PRESIDENT

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MOVES AND ANOTHER PRESIDENT

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COMES INTO PLACE ARE KEY AT THIS

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MOMENT

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NONE OF THOSE ACTIVITIES CAN

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HAPPEN UNTIL THESE EFFORTS ARE

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TAKEN, UNTIL THE ASCERTAINMENT

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IS ACHIEVED.

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AND AT THE SAME TIME, THERE’S

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ALSO THE IMPORTANCE OF

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UNDERSTANDING THERE’S A LIMIT