WEBVTT 00:01.636 --> 00:03.937 GABE GUTIERREZ SAT DOWN WITH THE CHIEF BORDER PATROL AGENT IN EL 00:03.938 --> 00:05.605 CHIEF BORDER PATROL AGENT IN EL PASO, TEXAS, TO TALK ABOUT WHAT 00:05.606 --> 00:06.239 PASO, TEXAS, TO TALK ABOUT WHAT HE’S SEEN. 00:06.240 --> 00:07.841 HE’S SEEN. >>> THE BACKLOG THAT HAPPENED 00:07.875 --> 00:10.243 >>> THE BACKLOG THAT HAPPENED AROUND MAY, WHAT DO YOU MOST 00:10.244 --> 00:11.745 AROUND MAY, WHAT DO YOU MOST ATTRIBUTE THAT BACKLOG TO? 00:11.746 --> 00:14.247 ATTRIBUTE THAT BACKLOG TO? >> YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FULL 00:14.249 --> 00:15.715 >> YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FULL FACTORS THAT ARE BRINGING PEOPLE 00:15.750 --> 00:17.150 FACTORS THAT ARE BRINGING PEOPLE TO THE UNITED STATES ILLEGALLY. 00:17.151 --> 00:18.518 TO THE UNITED STATES ILLEGALLY. YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THE FACT 00:18.519 --> 00:21.021 YOU HAVE TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT THE BAR FOR CREDIBLE FEAR 00:21.022 --> 00:23.056 THAT THE BAR FOR CREDIBLE FEAR WITH THE ASYLUM PROCESS IS VERY 00:23.091 --> 00:23.390 WITH THE ASYLUM PROCESS IS VERY LOW. 00:23.424 --> 00:25.559 LOW. YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT AN AWARENESS 00:25.593 --> 00:26.860 YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT AN AWARENESS OF COURT DECISIONS THAT PREVENT 00:26.861 --> 00:30.630 OF COURT DECISIONS THAT PREVENT US FROM HOLDING FAMILY UNITS IN 00:30.665 --> 00:32.933 US FROM HOLDING FAMILY UNITS IN CUSTODY FOR LONGER THAN 20 DAYS. 00:32.934 --> 00:39.239 CUSTODY FOR LONGER THAN 20 DAYS. MOST OF THESE ALIENS READ THATLI 00:39.240 --> 00:41.041 MOST OF THESE ALIENS READ THATLI THAT THEY’RE SOON GOING TO BE 00:41.042 --> 00:41.875 THAT THEY’RE SOON GOING TO BE RELEASED BECAUSE WE DON’T HAVE 00:41.910 --> 00:45.846 RELEASED BECAUSE WE DON’T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DETAIN THEM. 00:45.880 --> 00:49.182 THE CAPACITY TO DETAIN THEM. THOSE ARE HUGE INCENTIVES. 00:49.217 --> 00:51.317 THOSE ARE HUGE INCENTIVES. THAT’S WHY THE NUMBERS HAVE 00:51.353 --> 01:21.181 THAT’S WHY THE NUMBERS HAVE CONTINUED TO GO UP. 01:21.183 --> 01:23.383 CONTINUED TO GO UP. >> REGARDING THE FEEDING, FOR 01:23.385 --> 01:24.618 >> REGARDING THE FEEDING, FOR EXAMPLE, THESE ARE GOVERNMENT 01:24.620 --> 01:25.219 EXAMPLE, THESE ARE GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS. 01:25.253 --> 01:26.554 CONTRACTS. THESE TAKE A LONG TIME TO PUT IN 01:26.588 --> 01:28.189 THESE TAKE A LONG TIME TO PUT IN PLACE AND WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN 01:28.190 --> 01:29.623 PLACE AND WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN RECORDS TO SHOW HOW OFTEN WE’RE 01:29.625 --> 01:31.592 RECORDS TO SHOW HOW OFTEN WE’RE FEEDING CHILDREN. 01:31.593 --> 01:32.526 FEEDING CHILDREN. BY POLICY, WE’RE REQUIRED TO 01:32.561 --> 01:34.528 BY POLICY, WE’RE REQUIRED TO FEED THEM TWO HOT MEALS A DAY. 01:34.529 --> 01:36.764 FEED THEM TWO HOT MEALS A DAY. WE ACTUALLY WERE FEEDING THEM 01:36.798 --> 01:38.699 WE ACTUALLY WERE FEEDING THEM THREE HOT MEALS A DAY AND STILL 01:38.700 --> 01:38.933 THREE HOT MEALS A DAY AND STILL ARE. 01:38.967 --> 01:40.734 ARE. IN TERMS OF SANITATION, THAT 01:40.736 --> 01:44.838 IN TERMS OF SANITATION, THAT FACILITY IS CLEANED EVERY DAY. 01:44.840 --> 01:47.575 FACILITY IS CLEANED EVERY DAY. IN TERPSMS OF THE SERVICES WE 01:47.609 --> 01:50.411 IN TERPSMS OF THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE, WE BROUGHT IN SHOWER 01:50.412 --> 01:50.745 PROVIDE, WE BROUGHT IN SHOWER TRAILERS. 01:50.779 --> 01:52.046 TRAILERS. WE HAD TOO MANY CHILDREN IN 01:52.047 --> 01:52.346 WE HAD TOO MANY CHILDREN IN THERE. 01:52.347 --> 01:53.380 THERE. WE TOLD EVERYBODY THAT. 01:53.415 --> 01:54.749 WE TOLD EVERYBODY THAT. THE CHILDREN THAT WERE THERE 01:54.750 --> 01:56.751 THE CHILDREN THAT WERE THERE WERE RECEIVING THE HYGIENE, WERE 01:56.785 --> 01:57.885 WERE RECEIVING THE HYGIENE, WERE RECEIVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO 01:57.919 --> 01:58.252 RECEIVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOWER. 01:58.253 --> 02:01.355 SHOWER. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE 02:01.356 --> 02:03.123 FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE GUATEMALAN CONSUL HAS BEEN THERE 02:03.125 --> 02:05.660 GUATEMALAN CONSUL HAS BEEN THERE ABOUT FIVE TIMES AND HE HAS SAID 02:05.694 --> 02:09.297 ABOUT FIVE TIMES AND HE HAS SAID WE ARE MEETING THE FEEDING AND 02:09.331 --> 02:11.966 WE ARE MEETING THE FEEDING AND SANITATION LEVEL FOR HIS 02:11.967 --> 02:12.867 SANITATION LEVEL FOR HIS COUNTRYMEN. 02:12.901 --> 02:14.435 COUNTRYMEN. WHILE THOSE REPORTS EXIST, WE 02:14.470 --> 02:16.070 WHILE THOSE REPORTS EXIST, WE CAN SHOW YOU PLENTY THAT SHOWS 02:16.072 --> 02:17.038 CAN SHOW YOU PLENTY THAT SHOWS JUST THE OPPOSITE. 02:17.039 --> 02:19.173 JUST THE OPPOSITE. >> EVEN AFTER THIS REPORT IN THE 02:19.208 --> 02:20.675 >> EVEN AFTER THIS REPORT IN THE "NEW YORK TIMES," THE OIG REPORT 02:20.676 --> 02:22.777 "NEW YORK TIMES," THE OIG REPORT FROM OTHER FACILITIES IN SOUTH 02:22.778 --> 02:23.578 FROM OTHER FACILITIES IN SOUTH TEXAS, THERE HAVE BEEN REPORT 02:23.579 --> 02:26.781 TEXAS, THERE HAVE BEEN REPORT AFTER REPORT OF UNSANITARY AND 02:26.782 --> 02:27.982 AFTER REPORT OF UNSANITARY AND OVERCROWDED CONDITIONS. 02:27.983 --> 02:30.551 OVERCROWDED CONDITIONS. EVEN AT THIS POINT, YOU STILL 02:30.586 --> 02:33.354 EVEN AT THIS POINT, YOU STILL DISPUTE THE CHARACTERIZATION OF 02:33.355 --> 02:34.889 DISPUTE THE CHARACTERIZATION OF THE CARE THAT THESE CHILDREN 02:34.890 --> 02:37.592 THE CARE THAT THESE CHILDREN WERE RECEIVING INSIDE THE CLINT 02:37.626 --> 02:37.959 WERE RECEIVING INSIDE THE CLINT FACILITY? 02:37.993 --> 02:38.493 FACILITY? >> ABSOLUTELY. 02:38.494 --> 02:40.295 >> ABSOLUTELY. YOU MENTIONED OVERCROWDED. 02:40.296 --> 02:42.897 YOU MENTIONED OVERCROWDED. WE’VE SAID A COUPLE OF TIMES, 02:42.932 --> 02:45.299 WE’VE SAID A COUPLE OF TIMES, YES, WE WERE OVERCROWDED. 02:45.301 --> 02:47.802 YES, WE WERE OVERCROWDED. BY LAW, THESE CHILDREN HAVE TO 02:47.804 --> 02:50.505 BY LAW, THESE CHILDREN HAVE TO BE TURNED OVER TO ONE ENTITY. 02:50.506 --> 02:53.174 BE TURNED OVER TO ONE ENTITY. THAT’S HEALTH AND HUMAN 02:53.209 --> 02:53.575 THAT’S HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES. 02:53.576 --> 02:55.777 SERVICES. >> HOW CAN THIS BE SOLVED ANY 02:55.778 --> 02:56.611 >> HOW CAN THIS BE SOLVED ANY TIME SOON? 02:56.646 --> 02:58.012 TIME SOON? DO YOU EXPECT THE SURGE TO 02:58.013 --> 02:59.547 DO YOU EXPECT THE SURGE TO CONTINUE AFTER THE SUMMER 02:59.582 --> 02:59.914 CONTINUE AFTER THE SUMMER MONTHS? 02:59.916 --> 03:01.682 MONTHS? >> WE APPRECIATE THE CURRENT LOW 03:01.684 --> 03:03.585 >> WE APPRECIATE THE CURRENT LOW AND WHAT THAT’S DONE TO OUR 03:03.586 --> 03:04.386 AND WHAT THAT’S DONE TO OUR HOLDING CAPACITY. 03:04.387 --> 03:06.621 HOLDING CAPACITY. BUT THE REALITY IS WE HAVE TO BE 03:06.623 --> 03:07.789 BUT THE REALITY IS WE HAVE TO BE PREPARED FOR WHATEVER HAPPENS. 03:07.790 --> 03:09.591 PREPARED FOR WHATEVER HAPPENS. WHILE WE SPENT SO MUCH OF OUR 03:09.592 --> 03:11.326 WHILE WE SPENT SO MUCH OF OUR TIME AND PERSONNEL AND RESOURCES 03:11.360 --> 03:13.662 TIME AND PERSONNEL AND RESOURCES ADDRESSING THIS SENSITIVE 03:13.696 --> 03:14.095 ADDRESSING THIS SENSITIVE POPULATION. 03:14.096 --> 03:15.430 POPULATION. WE HAVE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT 03:15.464 --> 03:16.932 WE HAVE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE POTENTIAL TERRORISTS, THE 03:16.933 --> 03:19.902 THE POTENTIAL TERRORISTS, THE CRIMINALS, THE AGGRAVATED 03:19.936 --> 03:24.406 CRIMINALS, THE AGGRAVATED FELONS, THE CONTAGIOUS DISEASES 03:24.407 --> 03:24.806 FELONS, THE CONTAGIOUS DISEASES THAT ENTER. 03:24.807 --> 03:26.007 THAT ENTER. THIS IS ONLY PART OF THE 03:26.008 --> 03:26.441 THIS IS ONLY PART OF THE CONVERSATION. 03:26.442 --> 03:28.143 CONVERSATION. WE’RE HERE TO SECURE THE BORDER 03:28.177 --> 03:29.978 WE’RE HERE TO SECURE THE BORDER AND TO PROTECT THOSE IN OUR 03:30.012 --> 03:31.346 AND TO PROTECT THOSE IN OUR CUSTODY AND TAKE AS BEST CARE OF 03:31.380 --> 03:33.448 CUSTODY AND TAKE AS BEST CARE OF THEM AS WE CAN, BUT WE HAVE TO 03:33.449 --> 03:34.382 THEM AS WE CAN, BUT WE HAVE TO PROTECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FROM 03:34.417 --> 03:36.818 PROTECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FROM THESE THREATS THAT ARE 03:36.819 --> 03:37.719 THESE THREATS THAT ARE CONTINUING TO FLOW INTO THE 03:37.720 --> 03:38.153 CONTINUING TO FLOW INTO THE UNITED STATES. 03:38.187 --> 03:40.288 UNITED STATES. >> I WANT TO GET YOU ON THE 03:40.323 --> 03:42.057 >> I WANT TO GET YOU ON THE RECORD ABOUT SOMETHING I KNOW 03:42.091 --> 03:44.726 RECORD ABOUT SOMETHING I KNOW THAT DHS OFFICIALS HAVE SAID 03:44.761 --> 03:45.861 THAT DHS OFFICIALS HAVE SAID THIS DOES NOT REPRESENT THE 03:45.862 --> 03:46.728 THIS DOES NOT REPRESENT THE BORDER PATROL. 03:46.730 --> 03:49.664 BORDER PATROL. I KNOW YOU’VE HEARD ABOUT IT, 03:49.666 --> 03:51.133 I KNOW YOU’VE HEARD ABOUT IT, THIS SECRET FACEBOOK GROUP. 03:51.134 --> 03:53.235 THIS SECRET FACEBOOK GROUP. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT 03:53.236 --> 03:54.870 WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT AND DO YOU THINK THAT FACEBOOK 03:54.871 --> 03:56.271 AND DO YOU THINK THAT FACEBOOK GROUP REPRESENTS AN OVERALL 03:56.272 --> 03:57.472 GROUP REPRESENTS AN OVERALL CULTURE BEEN THE BORDER PATROL? 03:57.507 --> 03:58.974 CULTURE BEEN THE BORDER PATROL? >> NO, I DO NOT. 03:58.975 --> 04:01.343 >> NO, I DO NOT. THE BORDER PATROL’S MOTTO SINCE 04:01.377 --> 04:04.946 THE BORDER PATROL’S MOTTO SINCE THE 1920s HAS BEEN HONOR FIRST. 04:04.948 --> 04:06.782 THE 1920s HAS BEEN HONOR FIRST. BORDER PATROL AGENTS ARE PUT 04:06.783 --> 04:09.351 BORDER PATROL AGENTS ARE PUT INTO DIFFICULT SITUATIONS ON THE 04:09.352 --> 04:10.185 INTO DIFFICULT SITUATIONS ON THE SOUTHWEST BORDER. 04:10.186 --> 04:12.988 SOUTHWEST BORDER. WE HAVE A SYSTEM OF CONDUCT AND 04:13.022 --> 04:15.123 WE HAVE A SYSTEM OF CONDUCT AND DISCIPLINE AS UNITED STATES 04:15.158 --> 04:16.091 DISCIPLINE AS UNITED STATES BORDER PATROL. 04:16.092 --> 04:18.794 BORDER PATROL. AS PART OF CBP, WE FOLLOW THE 04:18.828 --> 04:21.196 AS PART OF CBP, WE FOLLOW THE STANDARDS OF CONDUCT. 04:21.197 --> 04:23.432 STANDARDS OF CONDUCT. THOSE WHO ARE FOUND OF 04:23.466 --> 04:28.403 THOSE WHO ARE FOUND OF MISCONDUCT WHETHER ON OR OFF 04:28.405 --> 04:31.206 MISCONDUCT WHETHER ON OR OFF DUTY WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. 04:31.241 --> 04:32.107 DUTY WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. AS I SAID --