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THEY JUST NEVER GET CHARGED.

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>> WE’RE JOINED NOW BY REVEREND

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AL SHARPTON, THE PRESIDENT OF

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THE NATIONAL ACTION NETWORK,

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HOST OF POLITICS NATION ON

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MSNBC, ALSO DELIVERING THE

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EULOGY AT TODAY’S MEMORIAL

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SERVICE.

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REVEREND AL, ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE

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YOU, SIR, THANK YOU FOR YOUR

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TIME THIS MORNING.

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ABOUT 15 MINUTES FROM WHERE I’M

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STANDING RIGHT NOW AT THAT

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MEMORIAL SITE, WHAT’S THE

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MESSAGE THAT YOU HOPE TO CONVEY

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THIS AFTERNOON

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>> I HOPE TO LET THE WORLD KNOW

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THAT WE ARE AT A TIPPING POINT

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WHERE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO

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DEAL WITH POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY

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AND REALLY RESTRUCTURE THE

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CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM TO DEAL

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WITH THIS.

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WE CANNOT KEEP GOING FROM

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FUNERAL TO FUNERAL

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I DID THE FUNERAL OF ERIC

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GARNER, CHOKE HOLD VICTIM IN NEW

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YORK CITY POLICE

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I DID THE FUNERAL OF MICHAEL

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BROWN.

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AT SOME POINT, AND I THINK THIS

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IS THE POINT, AND THAT’S WHAT

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I’M GOING TO EMPHASIZE TODAY,

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WE’VE GOT TO STOP AND LISTEN TO

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THE CRIES OF THE PEOPLE, AND

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REFORM POLICING TO WHERE THEY’RE

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HELD TO A STANDARD THAT THEY

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HAVE TO DO PUBLIC SERVICE RATHER

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THAN DEAL WITH SITUATIONS WHERE

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THEY ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF

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THE LAW.

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AND IN THIS CASE I FEEL IT WAS A

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MURDER

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>> SPEAKING OF THAT, THE CHARGE,

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OF COURSE, AS YOU KNOW ENHANCED

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YESTERDAY AGAINST FORMER OFFICER

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CHAUVIN.

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NOW SECOND DEGREE MURDER

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THE OTHER THREE OFFICERS

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INVOLVED ALSO NOW CHARGED WITH

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AIDING AND ABETTING.

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I KNOW THAT YOU’RE IN CLOSE

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CONTACT WITH THE FAMILY.

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DID THEY TAKE SOME SOLACE IN THE

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THREE OFFICERS BEING CHARGED

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YESTERDAY?

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>> THEY DID.

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IT WAS NOT THE MAXIMUM CHARGE,

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BUT IT WAS AN UPGRADE ON THE

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FIRST OFFICER AND THE OTHERS

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WERE CHARGED

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AND MANY OF THOSE OF US THAT

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PROTESTED THIS, I WAS HERE IN

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MINNEAPOLIS LAST WEEK, WE’VE

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BEEN AROUND MANY OF THE

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PROTESTS, MUCH OF THEM ORGANIC

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WANTED ALL FOUR.

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NOW THE QUESTION IS, WHAT WILL

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HAPPEN IN THE LEAD-UP TO A

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TRIAL?

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WHAT WILL HAPPEN AT TRIAL?

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WE FINALLY GOT GEORGE ZIMMERMAN

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ARRESTED AND CHARGED FOR TRAY

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VON MARTIN YEARS AGO BUT THE

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TRIAL WAS NOT PROSECUTED RIGHT

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IN MANY OF OUR JUDGMENTS

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WE’RE GOING TO LOOK AT THAT.

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BUT AT THE SAME TIME, CRAIG,

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WE’VE GOT TO DEAL WITH THE

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POLICY AND THE LEGALITY THAT WE

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HAVE POLICING.

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SO AS WE DEAL WITH THIS SPECIFIC

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CASE WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE

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OVERALL QUESTION OF POLICING IN

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AMERICA.

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WE’RE AT THE POINT WHERE WE MUST

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DEAL WITH THAT.

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>> DO YOU THINK THOSE CHARGES

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WOULD HAVE COME YESTERDAY HAD IT

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NOT BEEN FOR THE EIGHT DAYS OF

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PROTESTS THAT WE’VE SEEN ALL

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OVER THIS COUNTRY?

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>> I THINK THAT THE CHARGES CAME

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BECAUSE OF THE EIGHT DAYS OF

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PROTESTING AND THE SPECIFIC

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CALLS FOR THE GOVERNOR TO LET

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THE STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL KEITH

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ELLISON COME IN.

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ABOUT 72 HOURS AFTER ELLISON

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CAME IN HE ARRESTED THE OTHER

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THREE THAT IN OVER A WEEK THE

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LOCAL PROSECUTOR HAD NOT CHARGED

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OR ARRESTED.

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I THINK A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO

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WITH PROSECUTORIAL CONDUCT AND

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WHO WILL OPERATE IN A WAY THAT

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EVEN IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS

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DISCOMFORTING TO LAW

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ENFORCEMENT, THAT WILL DO IT

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BECAUSE IT FITS WITHIN THE LAW

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WE’RE NOT ASKING FOR FAVORS, THE

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LAW.

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HAD THERE NOT BEEN THE PROTESTS

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AND THE CALL, I DO NOT THINK WE

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WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE PROSECUTOR

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OF THESE CHARGES.

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>> LET’S TALK ABOUT THE PROTESTS

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FOR A MOMENT

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YOU’VE BEEN MARCHING AND

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PROTESTING SINCE LONG BEFORE I

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WAS EVEN BORN, REV

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BUT THIS SEEMS DIFFERENT FROM

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AFAR

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AND BY THAT I MEAN THE SIZE AND

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SCOPE OF SOME OF THESE PROTESTS.

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WHAT HAPPENED LITERALLY JUST A

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FEW FEET FROM ME HERE IN

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MINNEAPOLIS, SPARKING PROTESTS

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IN SALT LAKE CITY AND FLORIDA

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AND JUST LITERALLY EVERY STATE

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IN THE COUNTRY

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DOES IT FEEL DIFFERENT TO YOU?

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HAVE YOU BEEN HERE BEFORE?

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>> IT FEELS DIFFERENT.

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I’VE SEEN NATIONAL MOVES BEFORE.

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WE’VE BEEN ON THE FOREFRONT, AS

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YOU SAID, A LONG TIME.

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THE DIFFERENCE THIS TIME, TO ME,

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WHICH MAKES ME FEEL THAT WE ARE

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ON THE BRINK OF REAL CHANGE, IF

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WE CAN SUSTAIN IT, IS THAT I’VE

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SEEN IT MORE DIVERSE, I’VE SEEN

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IN MANY AREAS MORE WHITES THAN

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BLACKS MARCHING.

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I’VE SEEN IT GENDER EQUAL IN

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TERMS OF OLD AND YOUNG

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THERE’S NO GENERATIONAL FIGHT

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HERE

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AND THE THING THAT REALLY GAVE

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ME THE FEELING THAT THIS IS

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DIFFERENT IS IT’S IN THE MIDDLE

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OF A PANDEMIC.

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PEOPLE HAVE COME OUT AT THE RISK

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OF THEIR HEALTH AND LIFE TO

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MARCH.

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AND TO STAND UP.

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AND I THINK THAT THAT SAYS TO ME

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THAT AMERICA REALLY IS READY TO

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TURN THE CORNER ON THIS ISSUE OF

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POLICING AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE

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AND MAKE REAL CHANGE.

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>> REVEREND AL SHARPTON, THANK

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YOU, SIR, APPRECIATE YOU AS

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ALWAYS

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OUR COLLEAGUE LESTER HOLT WILL

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BE ANCHORING LIVE COVERAGE OF

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THE MEMORIAL SERVICE THIS
