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>>> WELCOME BACK.

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>>> WELCOME BACK.

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WE’RE THRILLED TO BE JOINED NOW

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BY SOMEONE WHO LITERALLY NEEDS

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NO INTRODUCTION, LEGENDARY

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ACTOR, DIRECTOR AND PRODUCER

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ROBERT De NIRO, TO REFLECT ON

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THE LOSS OF THE PRESIDENT THAT

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HE HAS STRONGLY CONFRONTED.

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ROBERT, I WANT TO GET RIGHT TO

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IT.

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LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR

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STRAIGHT TALK.

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>> I’M GOING TO SAY ONE THING,

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[ BLEEP ] TRUMP.

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>> HE’S SO BLATANTLY STUPID.

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>> THIS GUY IS -- SHOULD NOT BE

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PRESIDENT.

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PERIOD.

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>> [ BLEEP ] HIM.

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>> WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS IS

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CABLE.

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>> SORRY.

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>> HE’S A PUNK.

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HE’S A DOG.

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HE’S A PIG.

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>> HE HAS NO IDEA OF WHAT HIS

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PURPOSE IN LIFE IS -- AS THE

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PRESIDENT SHOULD BE.

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>> HE’S A CON, A [ BLEEP ]

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ARTIST, A MUTT WHO DOESN’T KNOW

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WHAT HE’S TALKING ABOUT.

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>> HAVE A KIND OF WEIRD, TWISTED

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PRESIDENT WHO THINKS HE’S A

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GANGSTER, WHO IS A -- NOT EVEN A

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GOOD GANGSTER.

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>> HE’S A NATIONAL DISASTER.

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HE TALKS ABOUT HOW HE WANTS TO

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PUNCH PEOPLE IN THE FACE.

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WELL, I’D LIKE TO PUNCH HIM IN

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THE FACE.

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>> ROBERT De NIRO JOINS US ON

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"THE BEAT."

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YOUR REACTION TO THIS ELECTION,

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SIR.

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>> WELL, I’M RELIEVED.

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VERY, VERY RELIEVED.

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IT’S -- IT’S LIKE -- AS I KEEP

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SAYING, IT’S LIKE BEING IN AN

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ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIP.

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WE DON’T KNOW WHAT’S GOING ON.

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NOBODY KNOWS.

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FROM ONE DAY TO THE NEXT.

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I DON’T EVEN THINK HE KNOWS

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WHAT’S GOING ON.
AND AS HIS NIECE MARY TRUMP

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AND AS HIS NIECE MARY TRUMP

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SAID, I MEAN, THAT’S IT.

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HE’S -- IT’S -- THANK GOD.

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THAT’S ALL.

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WE’RE PAST THAT.

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WE’RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF

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OTHER PROBLEMS.

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THAT’S NORMAL.

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YOU HAVE THEM.

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BUT NOT WHEN YOU DON’T -- WHEN

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YOU DON’T BEHAVE WITHIN CERTAIN

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PARAMETERS, CERTAIN RULES, THEN

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THERE’S NO POINT IN HAVING ANY

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-- WHAT WE HAVE IN THIS COUNTRY.

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AND THAT’S WHAT HE’S CAPABLE OF,

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JUST NOT RESPECTING ANYTHING.

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AND WE’RE GOING TO SEE NOW

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WHETHER HE WILL LEAVE

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GRACEFULLY, WHICH I DON’T THINK

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HE WILL, BUT I THINK HE’LL FIND

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HIMSELF IN SUCH A SITUATION THAT

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HE’LL HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO

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LEAVE BUT PROBABLY SAY, YOU

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KNOW, I HAD TO LEAVE.

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IT’S RIGGED.

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BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

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BUT I HAD TO LEAVE.

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HE’LL FIND SOME WAY TO, IN HIS

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EYES, SAVE FACE THROUGH WHAT HE

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SAYS, BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS I’M

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VERY RELIEVED THAT HE’S -- THAT

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HE’S NOT -- AND WE HAVE A LOT TO

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BE -- BECAUSE THERE WILL BE

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OTHER PEOPLE LIKE HIM IN THE

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FUTURE.

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MAYBE NOT IN MY LIFETIME, BUT

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THERE WAS AN ARTICLE WRITTEN IN

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I THINK "THE ATLANTIC" THE OTHER

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DAY ABOUT -- AND THIS IS

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SOMETHING I ALWAYS THINK ABOUT

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-- SOMEBODY’S GOING TO COME

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ALONG WHO IS A LOT SMATTER, MORE

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SENSITIVE, MORE MERCURIAL AND

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NOT SO BOORISH AND WILL BE ABLE

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TO PULL THE WOOL OVER THE EYES

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OF THE PUBLIC.

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AND THEN WE WILL HAVE A SERIOUS

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-- A MORE SERIOUS, DEEPER

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PROBLEM.

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AND ONE THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY --

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THAT WILL GET FURTHER THAN WHAT

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TRUMP HAS DONE.

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HE’S ALSO SET AN EXAMPLE,

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UNFORTUNATELY, TO OTHER YOUNG

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PEOPLE THAT THIS KIND OF THING

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CAN BE DONE.

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AND THAT’S WHY IT’S SO IMPORTANT

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AT THIS, YOU KNOW, AFTER HE’S

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OUT OF OFFICE THAT HE IS HELD

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ACCOUNTABLE.

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>> YOU KNOW THIS EXPRESSION,

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ROBERT, WHEN THEY SAY SOMEONE’S

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FOUND THEIR VOICE?

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>> YEAH.

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>> WHAT DOES IT TELL YOU AS

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SOMEONE WHO IS SUCH A -- SUCH AN

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INCREDIBLE COMMUNICATOR THAT AT

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THIS MOMENT OF MAXIMUM IMPACT

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AND INFLECTION DONALD TRUMP

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SEEMS TO HAVE COMPLETELY LOST

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HIS VOICE?

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>> I DON’T -- I DON’T KNOW IF HE

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HAS A VOICE.

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I DON’T KNOW WHAT HE HAS.

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I JUST, YOU KNOW, I -- I JUST

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DON’T KNOW.

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I THINK THERE’S A SCREW LOOSE

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THERE AND HE JUST -- HE IS -- HE

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JUST DOESN’T GET IT.

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IF HE HAD DONE WHAT HE SHOULD

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HAVE DONE FOR THE VIRUS, HE

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COULD HAVE WON THIS ELECTION.

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I’M NOT -- I WOULDN’T BE HAPPY

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ABOUT IT, BUT HE WOULD HAVE DONE

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SOMETHING RIGHT.

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HE DIDN’T EVEN UNDERSTAND HOW TO

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DO THAT.

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IT’S LIKE THE GANG THAT COULDN’T

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SHOOT STRAIGHT.

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CERTAIN PEOPLE ONLY KNOW HOW TO

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DO THINGS WITH A -- A FELONIOUS

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OR FELONOUS INTENT AND THEY

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CAN’T JUST GO FROM "A" TO "B" TO

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"C" TO "D," THEY HAVE TO GO FROM

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"A" TO "G" TO "D" TO "H."

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STAY STRAIGHT, IF YOU DO IT

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RIGHT, THAT’S ALL YOU HAVE TO

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DO, AND HE JUST DOESN’T

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UNDERSTAND THAT.

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I DON’T KNOW WHY.

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>> IT’S FUNNY BECAUSE WHAT

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YOU’RE SAYING IS SIMILAR TO WHAT

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HIS FORMER CAMPAIGN MANAGER BRAD

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PARSCALE SAID, ACCORDING TO ONE

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OF THESE "WASHINGTON POST," YOU

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KNOW, POSTMORTEMS WHERE THEY GET

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THE REALLY JUICY QUOTES.

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THIS WHOLE THING TURNS ON THE

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VIRUS, AND IF YOU HANDLE THAT,

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YOU MIGHT GET RE-ELECTED.

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HIS OWN PEOPLE SAYING THAT’S THE

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PATH.

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AS YOU POINT OUT, EVEN

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SELF-INTEREST, NOT THE BETTER

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REASONS OF DOING IT TO SAVE AND

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PROTECT, WHICH IS THE OBLIGATION

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OF THE OFFICE.

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>> OF COURSE.

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>> HE JUST COULDN’T DO IT.

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GO AHEAD.

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>> NO, HE JUST COULDN’T DO IT.

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I DON’T -- THAT’S AN EASY ONE.

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THAT’S AN EASY ONE.

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I JUST DON’T -- YOU KNOW,

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THERE’LL BE MANY, MANY DIAGNOSES

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OF HIS PERSONALITY AND HIS

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PSYCHE FOR YEARS TO COME,

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GENERATIONS TO COME.

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I SAW A DOCUMENTARY CALLED

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"UNFIT," AND THESE SHRINKS

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DIAGNOSE HIM BASICALLY AND SAY,

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YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A THING THAT

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-- WITH BARRY GOLDWATER, I GUESS

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THEY TRIED TO DIAGNOSE HIM AND

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THERE WAS A LAW PASSED ARE THAT

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THEY THEY SHOULDN’T -- THAT THEY

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CAN’T DO THAT FROM AFAR, BUT

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THESE SHRINKS SAID THAT, NO,

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THEY CAN.

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HIS BEHAVIOR AND EVERYTHING

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THEY’VE SEEN OVER THE YEARS

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GIVES THEM A LOT OF INFORMATION

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THAT YOU MIGHT NOT GET ON A

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ONE-ON-ONE.

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THAT’S JUST BECAUSE YOU DIDN’T

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INTERACT WITH THE PATIENT OR THE

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SUBJECT DOESN’T MEAN THAT YOU

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HAVE -- THAT YOU HAVE MORE

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INFORMATION THAT WAY.

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SO THEY BASICALLY --

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>> ARE YOU SUGGESTING -- AND I

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DON’T WANT TO MISQUOTE YOU,

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ROBERT, BUT ARE YOU SUGGESTING A

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SEQUEL TO ANALYZE THIS BUT WITH

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TRUMP IN IT?

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>> WELL, NO, NOT REALLY, NOT

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QUITE.

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BUT MY --

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>> I WAS JUST KIDDING.

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>> IT’S THE SAME PLAYBOOK -- I

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KNOW.

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THE SAME PLAYBOOK AS MUSSOLINI

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AS HITLER AS -- AS DICTATORS,

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WANNA BE DICTATORS.

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IT’S THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY’RE

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GOING TO DO FOR THE PEOPLE, MAKE

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GERMANY GREAT AGAIN, MAKE ITALY

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GREAT AGAIN, MAKE AMERICA GREAT

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AGAIN.

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IT’S ALL APPEALING TO THE WORST

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PREJUDICES, THE WORST WEAKNESSES

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OF -- OF THE PUBLIC.

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AND INSTEAD OF LEADING THEM AND

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GUIDING THEM AND BEING -- BEING

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SOMEONE THAT THEY CAN LOOK UP TO

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AND WHEN THE PUBLIC IS NOT RIGHT

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PUBLIC IS NOT RIGHT YOU HAVE TO

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BE THERE TO DO THE RIGHT THING

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TO SET AN EXAMPLE FOR THEM.

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IF YOU DON’T, THEN WE’RE GOING

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TO BE WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

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THANK GOD WE’RE OUT OF THIS.

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WE’LL BE INTO OTHER THINGS.

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WITH BIDEN WE’LL GET ON A GOOD.

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HE’LL BRING US CALM WATERS.

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EVERYBODY REALIZE WE HAVE TO

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FETE OUT OF THIS MESS, MOVE ON.

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AND WE CAN DEAL WITH OTHER

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THINGS.

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>> THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO IS

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NOT ACCUSED OF AS MANY THINGS AS

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SOME DICTATORS.

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HE CERTAINLY CLOSED THE RACE BY

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FIGHTING DEMOCRACY ITSELF.

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I WANT TO PLAY A LITTLE BIT.

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>> GIVE HIM ANOTHER FOUR YEARS.

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HE’LL GO FOR A THIRD TERM AND

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JOKED ABOUT PRESIDENT FOR LIFE.

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HE’LL DO ANYTHING.

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>> HE TOLD PEOPLE TO VOTE TWICE.

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AND YEAH.

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ALL THAT.

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I WANT TO SHOW BEFORE WE LOSE

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YOU.

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YOU HAVE BEEN AROUND THE

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CONTRAST OF OBAMA AND BIDEN.

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YOU HAVE BEEN CELEBRATED BY

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PRESIDENT OBAMA.

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NOT TO EMBARRASS YOU, WE DID

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WANT TO TAKE A QUICK LOOK AT

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THAT.

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>> FOR OVER 50 YEARS HE

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DELIVERED THE MOES MEMORABLE

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PERFORMANCES.

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HIS WORK IS LEDGE DAY FOR WORK

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AND DEPTH.

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COMMITTED TO HIS CRAFT.

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HE EM BODIES CHARACTERS CREATING

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RICH PORTRAITS THAT REFLECT THE

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HEART OF THE HUMAN EXPERIENCE.

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>> WHAT DID THAT MEAN TO YOU

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FROM PRESIDENT OBAMA AND WHAT IF

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ANYTHING ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON

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JOE BIDEN WHO IS PART OF THAT

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ADMINISTRATION AND

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PRESIDENT-ELECT.

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>> WELL, I WAS HONORED OF COURSE

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TO BE GIVEN THAT.

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VERY HONORED.

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AND AGAIN, OBAMA WAS A PRESIDENT

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WHO WAS YOU KNOW -- HE MIGHT NOT

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HAVE DONE EVERYTHING RIGHT.

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YOU KNEW HIS INTENTIONS WERE

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RITE.

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HE WAS HONORABLE.

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HE’S GOING TO PLAY BY THE RULES

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AND DO THE RIGHT THING.

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AND THAT’S ALL YOU EXPECT FROM A

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LEADER.

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IS TO AT LEAST INTENTIONS ARE

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NOBLE.

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THEY MIGHT MAKE MISTAKES AND

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THAT I HAVE ALWAYS FELT ABOUT

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HIM.

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AND BIDEN WILL DO THE SAME.

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HE WILL BE WITH KAMALA HARRIS.

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IT WILL BE IT MIGHT SURPRISE US

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MORE THAT THEY’LL DO THINGS --

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THAT WE DIDN’T EXPECT.

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AND DON’T EXPECT.

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THEY COULD DO IT.

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IT WILL BE A TERRIFIC FOUR

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YEARS.

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MAYBE LONGER.

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>> I WANT PLAY A LITTLE BIT OF

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SOME OF YOUR ICONIC SCENES.

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>> NEVER RAT ON YOUR FRIENDS.

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AND ALWAYS KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT.

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>> YOU TALKING TO ME?

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YOU TALKING TO ME?

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>> LISTEN TO ME CAREFULLY, THREE

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WAYS OF DOING THINGS AROUND

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HERE.

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RIGHT WAY, WRONG WAY AND THE WAY

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I DO IT.

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>> I GREW NUP A TOUGH

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NEIGHBORHOOD.

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YOU CAN GET FURTHER WITH A KIND

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WORD AND A GUN.

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THAN JUST A KIND WORD.

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>> WHAT DO WE TAKE FROM ALL THE

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TOUGH GUYS YOU HAVE PLAYED IN A

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COUNTRY THAT CELEBRATES

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TOUGHNESS BUT SOMETIMES GETS

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CARRIED AWAY?

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>> SAY THAT QUESTION AGAIN.

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>> WHAT DO WE TAKE FROM ALL THE

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TOUGH GUYS YOU HAVE PLAYED AND

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THINKING ABOUT THIS IS A COUNTRY

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THAT CELEBRATES TOUGHNESS BUT

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SOMETIMES GETS CARRIED AWAY.

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WITH MAFIA MOVIES.

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>> OF COURSE.

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I’M AN ACTOR.

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I DO THE PARTS I ENJOY THEM.

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BUT I’D LIKE TO THINK IN SOME OF

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THOSE PARTS THERE’S A CERTAIN

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DIGNITY.

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SOMEWHERE BURIED IN THERE.

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THAT I DON’T THINK THE PERSON

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LIKE TRURP DOESN’T HAVE.

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THERE’S NO CENTER.

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YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CENTER NO

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MATTER WHO YOU ARE.

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IF -- IT IS JUST IT’S LIKE

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SOMEBODY DEFYING GRAVITY.

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THEY’LL NEVER DO -- THAT’S WHY

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WE HAVE RULES AND LAWS.

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WE HAVE JUDGES.

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WE HAVE STRUCTURE.

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IF DWOENT HAVE THAT WE HAVE

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NOTHING.

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WE HAVE CHAOS.

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WE HAVE ANARCHY.

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AND WE NEED SOMEONE WHO TO LEAD

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US THROUGH IN A KIND OF FATHER

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FIGURE WAY.

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OR MOTHER FIGURE WAY.

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TO BRING US THROUGH AND SHOW

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THAT THEY LOVE US.

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CARE ABOUT US AND WANT OUR BEST.

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THEY ARE LOOKING OUT FOR US.

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IT’S THE TOTAL OPPOSITE WITH

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SOMEONE LIKE HIM.

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IT CONFOUNDS ME HOW HE FWOT TO

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BE ELECTED.

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HE DID.

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AND CRAZY THINGS HAPPEN.

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THAT’S WHAT WE NEED IN A LEADER.

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IN ANY LEADER.

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THAT’S WHAT WE WERE GOING TO GET

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WITH JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA

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HARRIS.

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SHE’S TOUGH.

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SHE’S TOUGHER SHE’LL DO THE

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THINGS THAT MAYBE HE WOULDN’T

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DO.

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OR CAN’T DO.

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I’M HOPING SHE WILL DO THEM.

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>> IT’S REALLY FASCINATING TO

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HEAR YOUR TAKE.

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ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE WAY YOU

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HAVE BEEN A KEY FIGURE IN THE

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APPROXIMATELY REALM DEALING WITH

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WHATEVER IT IS TRUMP IS.

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AND PERSONALLY I’M JUST A SUCH A

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HUGE FAN.

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>> THANK YOU.

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I’M NOT LIKE POLITICAL.

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I WAS SO ANGRY AND SO ENRAGED

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AND CONFOUNDED THAT HE WOULD

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ACTUALLY BEHAVE THE WAY HE DID.

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AND THAT PEOPLE BOUGHT IT.

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I NOW I SEE MANY PEOPLE IN THE

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COUNTRY FEEL THIS WAY.

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I’M SAD ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE WHO

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DON’T.

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THEY ARE ACCEPTED HIM AND WOULD

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HAVE VOTED FOR HIM.

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AND HAVE VOTED FOR HIM.

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I DON’T KNOW WHY.

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THAT’S ALL THAT IT WAS.

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FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.

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HOW COULD THIS GUY BEHAVE THIS