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TIED TO THE RIOTS SO FAR.

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MEANWHILE, FORMER PRESIDENT

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TRUMP YESTERDAY ANNOUNCED A NEW

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LEGAL TEAM WILL REPRESENT HIM AT

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HIS SECOND IMPEACHMENT TRIAL SET
TO BEGIN NEXT WEEK.

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TO BEGIN NEXT WEEK.

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NBC NEWS REPORTS LAWYERS DAVID
VCHEN AND BRUCE CASTER ARE

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VCHEN AND BRUCE CASTER ARE

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COMING ON BOARD AFTER DEBORAH

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BARBIER PARTED WAYS WITH TRUMP.

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THEY WANTED HIM TO FALSELY ARGUE

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HE WON THE ELECTION AND THAT IT

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WAS STOLEN THROUGH VOTER FRAUD.

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TRUMP SPOKESMAN JASON MILLER

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CALLS THAT REPORTING FAKE NEWS.

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BUT IF YOU KNOW DONALD TRUMP,

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YOU COULD SEE HIM DOING THAT.

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SOURCES SPEAKING ANONYMOUSLY

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TOLD THE "WASHINGTON POST" THAT

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THE SOUTH CAROLINA TEAM WAS

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UNCOMFORTABLE, MAKING THE AN

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SUBSTANTIATED CLAIMS AND INSTEAD

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WANTED TO ARGUE THE

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UNCONSTITUTIONALITY OF

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IMPEACHING A PRESIDENT THAT HAS

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ALREADY LEFT OFFICE.

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LET’S BRING IN GEORGE CONWAY, CO

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FOUNDER OF THE LINCOLN ON

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PROJECT.

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ALSO WITH US "NEW YORK TIMES"

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REPORTER AND MSNBC NATIONAL

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SECURITY ANALYST MICHAEL

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SCHMIDT.

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GEORGE CONWAY, I’LL START WITH

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YOU ON THE PRESIDENT’S LEGAL

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TEAM LEAVING HIM.

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AND HIM APPARENTLY TAKING ON A

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NEW ONE BECAUSE HE WANTS TO

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ARGUE THAT HE WON THE ELECTION.

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I DON’T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES YOU

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CAN PUT YOUR HAND ON A HOT STOVE

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BEFORE YOU REALIZE THAT’S

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PROBABLY NOT A GOOD IDEA.

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BUT WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF DONALD

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TRUMP’S CLINGING TO THIS

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STRATEGY?

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>> IT’S CLASSIC DONALD TRUMP.

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I MEAN, HE WILL, TO THE DAY HE

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DIES, ASSERT THAT HE WON THE

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ELECTION.

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EVEN THOUGH HE KNOWS HE DIDN’T.

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EVEN THOUGH HE ADMITTED

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PRIVATELY THAT HE HASN’T.

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HIS INSTABILITY AND INABILITY TO

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BE RATIONAL HAS ALWAYS CAUSED

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HIM DIFFICULTY IN RETAINING

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LAWYERS.

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IT HAPPENED BACK WHEN HE WAS

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LOOKING FOR COUNSEL AND HE

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ACTUALLY ASKED ME FOR ADVICE FOR

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COUNSEL FOR THE MUELLER

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INVESTIGATION.

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AND IT HAPPENED AGAIN FOR THE

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IMPEACHMENT TRIAL.

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HE DID HAVE HIS IN-HOUSE WHITE

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HOUSE COUNSEL STAFF ARGUE SOME
MATTERS.

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BUT HE COULDN’T GET A TRULY GOOD

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LAWYER TO ARGUE ON THAT.

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HE’S ALWAYS HAD TROUBLE TO

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GETTING LAWYERS TO ARGUE WITH

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HIM.

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FOR ONE THING, HE’S NOT A VERY

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GOOD CLIENT.

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HE DOESN’T TAKE ADVICE VERY

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WELL.

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HE’S UNPREDICTABLE.

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AND HE DOESN’T PAY HIS BILLS.

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SO IT’S NOT SURPRISING THAT HE’S

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HAD TROUBLE HERE MAINTAINING

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COUNSEL.

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IT’S NOT SURPRISING THAT HE’S

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ASKING THEM TO VIOLATE THE RULES

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OF PROFESSIONAL ETHICS BY MAKING

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FACTUALLY UNFOUNDED ARGUMENTS

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SAYING HE WON THE ELECTION.

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AND NOT SURPRISING THAT A WEEK

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BEFORE THE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL HE

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HAD TO GO OUT AND FIND ANOTHER

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PAIR OF LAWYERS.

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AND IT’S PRETTY AMAZING THAT

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SOMEBODY WHO SUPPOSEDLY IS A

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BILLIONAIRE AND WHO WAS

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PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

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HAS SUCH TROUBLE FINDING

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LAWYERS.

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>> MICHAEL SCHMIDT, YOU HAVE A

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SWEEPING PIECE PORE THE PAPER

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THIS MORNING.

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A FRONT PAGE LOOK AT THE TIME

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SPENT BY PRESIDENT TRUMP IN HIS

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UNPRECEDENTED CAMPAIGN TO

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SUBVERT THE RESULTS OF THE

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PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

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IT FEEDS INTO GEORGE CONWAY’S

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NOTION THAT HE IS OBSESSED WITH

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THIS AND YOU WILL HOLD ON TO IT

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TO THE DAY HE DIES.

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TELL US ABOUT THIS NEW

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REPORTING.

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>> THE STORY SHOWS THE SAGA, IF

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NOT TRAGEDY OF WHAT HAPPENED IN

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THE AFTERMATH OF THE ELECTION,

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HOW THE PRESIDENT WAS TOLD BY

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THOSE AROUND HIM THAT THE CLAIMS

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THAT THERE WAS WIDESPREAD

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ELECTION FRAUD WERE NOT TRUE.

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BUT A SMALL GROUP CAPTIVATED THE

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PRESIDENT AND INDULGED HIS WORST

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INSTINCTS ABOUT THIS AND WENT

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ALONG AND FED HIM FALSE
INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT HAD

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INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT HAD

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OCCURRED.

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AS YOU READ THE PIECE, THE STORY

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BUILDS ON ITSELF AND BUILDS ON

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ITSELF UNTIL YOU GET TO JANUARY

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6th.

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AND YOU SEE THE PRESIDENT USING

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HIS MEGAPHONE TO SCOPE THIS

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SKEPTICISM ABOUT THE ELECTION

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AMONG HIS BASE AND THROUGHOUT

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THE COUNTRY.

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AND YOU SEE HOW PEOPLE, EVEN

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LIKE BILL BARR, WHO WAS SPHOPB

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WHO TRUMP REALLY LIKED AND