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>>> KEN CUCCINELLI THE ACTING

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>>> KEN CUCCINELLI THE ACTING
DIRECTOR OF U.S. CITIZENSHIP AND

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DIRECTOR OF U.S. CITIZENSHIP AND
IMMIGRATION SERVICES TOLD

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IMMIGRATION SERVICES TOLD
CONGRESS TODAY HE’S THE ONE,

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CONGRESS TODAY HE’S THE ONE,
HE’S THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE

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HE’S THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
ABRUPT ANNOUNCED CHANGE IN

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ABRUPT ANNOUNCED CHANGE IN
POLICY THAT LED TO CRITICALLY

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POLICY THAT LED TO CRITICALLY
ILL KIDS AND THEIR FAMILIES

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ILL KIDS AND THEIR FAMILIES
BEING TOLD TO DISCONTINUE

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BEING TOLD TO DISCONTINUE
LIFESAVING MEDICAL CARE AND GET

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LIFESAVING MEDICAL CARE AND GET
OUT OF THE U.S. WITHIN 33 DAYS.

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OUT OF THE U.S. WITHIN 33 DAYS.
AFTER A NATIONAL UPROAR IN

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AFTER A NATIONAL UPROAR IN
RESPONSE TO THAT POLICY CHANGE

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RESPONSE TO THAT POLICY CHANGE
THE ADMINISTRATION REVERSED

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THE ADMINISTRATION REVERSED
COURSE.

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COURSE.
NOW AS PART OF A NEW LEGAL

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NOW AS PART OF A NEW LEGAL
FILING WE CAN SEE HOW THAT

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FILING WE CAN SEE HOW THAT
HAPPENED.

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HAPPENED.
THIS LETTER SENT FROM THE

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THIS LETTER SENT FROM THE
SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY

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SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY
KEVIN McALEENAN SEPTEMBER 18th

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KEVIN McALEENAN SEPTEMBER 18th
TO KEN CUCCINELLI ORDERING HIM

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TO KEN CUCCINELLI ORDERING HIM
TO RESUME THE OLD POLICY TO STAY

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TO RESUME THE OLD POLICY TO STAY
IN THE U.S. FOR THE SAKE OF

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IN THE U.S. FOR THE SAKE OF
THEIR KIDS WHO NEED TO STAY HERE

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THEIR KIDS WHO NEED TO STAY HERE
IN ORDER TO STAY ALIVE.

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IN ORDER TO STAY ALIVE.
WE ALL KNOW SECRETARY McALEENAN

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WE ALL KNOW SECRETARY McALEENAN
HAS SEEN RESIGNED.

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HAS SEEN RESIGNED.
HIS LAST DAY IS EXPECTED TO BE

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HIS LAST DAY IS EXPECTED TO BE
TOMORROW.

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TOMORROW.
WE ALSO KNOW THAT KEN CUCCINELLI

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WE ALSO KNOW THAT KEN CUCCINELLI
IS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO THE

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IS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO THE
WHITE HOUSE REPORTEDLY WANTS TO

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WHITE HOUSE REPORTEDLY WANTS TO
REPLACE HIM.

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REPLACE HIM.
WHAT’S TO STOP THIS POLICY FROM

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WHAT’S TO STOP THIS POLICY FROM
GETTING UP ENDED AGAIN ONCE

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GETTING UP ENDED AGAIN ONCE
McALEENAN IS OUT THE DOOR?

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McALEENAN IS OUT THE DOOR?
JOINING US IS ALSO A MEMBER OF

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JOINING US IS ALSO A MEMBER OF
THE RULES COMMITTEE THAT VOTED

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THE RULES COMMITTEE THAT VOTED
TONIGHT TO ADVANCE THE

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TONIGHT TO ADVANCE THE
IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY.

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IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANKS FOR INVITING ME.

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>> THANKS FOR INVITING ME.
>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THIS

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>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THIS
HEARING TODAY.

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HEARING TODAY.
WERE THEIR SURPRISES IN WHAT I’M

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WERE THEIR SURPRISES IN WHAT I’M
SURE WAS A SURPRISE IN TERM OF

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SURE WAS A SURPRISE IN TERM OF
THE TONE IN DEFENDING THIS

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THE TONE IN DEFENDING THIS
POLICY?

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POLICY?
>> THERE’S NOT MUCH LEFT FOR

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>> THERE’S NOT MUCH LEFT FOR
SURPRISE FROM THIS

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SURPRISE FROM THIS
ADMINISTRATION.

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ADMINISTRATION.
I GUESS WHAT I WAS SURPRISED BY

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I GUESS WHAT I WAS SURPRISED BY
WAS SOME OF THE THINGS HE

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WAS SOME OF THE THINGS HE
ASSERTED WHEN WEREN’T TRUE WHICH

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ASSERTED WHEN WEREN’T TRUE WHICH
FOR INSTANCE ALL OF THESE PEOPLE

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FOR INSTANCE ALL OF THESE PEOPLE
WERE HERE ILLEGALLY.

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WERE HERE ILLEGALLY.
IN ISABEL’S CASE WE KNOW SHE WAS

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IN ISABEL’S CASE WE KNOW SHE WAS
HERE LEGALLY FOR A LONG TIME.

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HERE LEGALLY FOR A LONG TIME.
>> THIS IS A LONG-STANDING

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>> THIS IS A LONG-STANDING
POLICY.

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POLICY.
THEY’RE NOT HERE ILLEGALLY.

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THEY’RE NOT HERE ILLEGALLY.
THEY’RE HERE LEGALLY.

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THEY’RE HERE LEGALLY.
THEY APPLIED TO STAY ESSENTIALLY

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THEY APPLIED TO STAY ESSENTIALLY
UNDER THIS MEDICAL COMPASSIONATE

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UNDER THIS MEDICAL COMPASSIONATE
DEFERRAL.

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DEFERRAL.
WE’VE BEEN WORRIED ABOUT THE

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WE’VE BEEN WORRIED ABOUT THE
FACT THE ADMINISTRATION REVERSED

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FACT THE ADMINISTRATION REVERSED
THIS ON PAPER, BUT ALL THESE

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THIS ON PAPER, BUT ALL THESE
FAMILIES AND KIDS STILL DON’T

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FAMILIES AND KIDS STILL DON’T
KNOW ABOUT THE WAY THEIR CASE IS

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KNOW ABOUT THE WAY THEIR CASE IS
GOING TO BE RESOLVED.

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GOING TO BE RESOLVED.
DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER CLARITY

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DO YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER CLARITY
ON THAT?

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ON THAT?
>> NO, AND I BROUGHT THIS UP IN

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>> NO, AND I BROUGHT THIS UP IN
THE HEARING, THEY’RE IN LIMBO.

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THE HEARING, THEY’RE IN LIMBO.
THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT’S HAPPENING

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THEY DON’T KNOW WHAT’S HAPPENING
IN THE CASE OF ISABEL, THEY WERE

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IN THE CASE OF ISABEL, THEY WERE
APPROVED FOUR TIMES AND THEY

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APPROVED FOUR TIMES AND THEY
ACCEPTED THE PRECEDENT INCLUDING

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ACCEPTED THE PRECEDENT INCLUDING
THIS ADMINISTRATION, AND THEN

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THIS ADMINISTRATION, AND THEN
ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY GET THIS

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ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY GET THIS
LETTER.

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LETTER.
SO WE HAVE TO BE ON GUARD ALL

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SO WE HAVE TO BE ON GUARD ALL
THE TIME.

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THE TIME.
>> IN TERMS OF WHAT HAPPENS NEXT

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>> IN TERMS OF WHAT HAPPENS NEXT
WHILE THESE PEOPLE ARE STILL IN

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WHILE THESE PEOPLE ARE STILL IN
LIMBO, WHILE THE POLICY IS

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LIMBO, WHILE THE POLICY IS
CHANGED ON PAPER BUT ITS MAN FES

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CHANGED ON PAPER BUT ITS MAN FES
STATION IN THE REAL WORLD

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STATION IN THE REAL WORLD
REMAINS TO BE SEEN, ARE YOU

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REMAINS TO BE SEEN, ARE YOU
CONCERNED NOW WE KNOW THAT

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CONCERNED NOW WE KNOW THAT
SECRETARY McALEENAN ORDERED THE

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SECRETARY McALEENAN ORDERED THE
REVERSAL OF THIS POLICY, NOW

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REVERSAL OF THIS POLICY, NOW
THAT HE’S LEAVING, WE DON’T KNOW

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THAT HE’S LEAVING, WE DON’T KNOW
WHO’S GOING TO BE TAKING HIS

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WHO’S GOING TO BE TAKING HIS
PLACE, ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT

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PLACE, ARE YOU CONCERNED THAT
THE ADMINISTRATION MIGHT ONCE

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THE ADMINISTRATION MIGHT ONCE
AGAIN JUST GO FOR IT FULL FORCE?

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AGAIN JUST GO FOR IT FULL FORCE?
>> YEAH, I’M VERY CONCERNED

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>> YEAH, I’M VERY CONCERNED
BECAUSE WHOEVER TAKES

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BECAUSE WHOEVER TAKES
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ACTUAL

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RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ACTUAL
ACTION IN MY MIND IT’S CLEAR

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ACTION IN MY MIND IT’S CLEAR
WHO’S ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE BY

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WHO’S ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE BY
HIS TONE, AND THAT’S THE

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HIS TONE, AND THAT’S THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

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PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
AND ALSO BECAUSE HE’S NOT

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AND ALSO BECAUSE HE’S NOT
INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT THAT

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INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT THAT
HE MAY BE HURTING PEOPLE.

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HE MAY BE HURTING PEOPLE.
SO WHETHER HE’S A SOCIOPATH OR

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SO WHETHER HE’S A SOCIOPATH OR
JUST LAZY, WE HAVE TO BE ON

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JUST LAZY, WE HAVE TO BE ON
GUARD ALL THE TIME.

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GUARD ALL THE TIME.
>> IN TERMS OF HOW TO MOVE

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>> IN TERMS OF HOW TO MOVE
FORWARD ON THIS, DO YOU EXPECT

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FORWARD ON THIS, DO YOU EXPECT
FURTHER HEARINGS?

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FURTHER HEARINGS?
HOW DO EXPECT TO CONTINUE

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HOW DO EXPECT TO CONTINUE
OVERSIGHT ON THIS?

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OVERSIGHT ON THIS?
>> I DEAD GET IN MY INTERPLAY

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>> I DEAD GET IN MY INTERPLAY
WITH THE ACTING SECRETARY HE

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WITH THE ACTING SECRETARY HE
WOULD WORK WITH US BECAUSE HE

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WOULD WORK WITH US BECAUSE HE
KEPT ASSERTING IT WAS CONGRESS’

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KEPT ASSERTING IT WAS CONGRESS’
FAULT, THEY WERE JUST COMPLYING

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FAULT, THEY WERE JUST COMPLYING
WITH THE LAW WHICH IS NOT

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WITH THE LAW WHICH IS NOT
FACTUAL FROM A HISTORIC

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FACTUAL FROM A HISTORIC
PERSPECTIVE.

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PERSPECTIVE.
I ASKED HIM WE WOULD HAVE A

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I ASKED HIM WE WOULD HAVE A
PROCESS AND COMMUNICATING WITH

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PROCESS AND COMMUNICATING WITH
ONE ANOTHER BECAUSE THERE WAS

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ONE ANOTHER BECAUSE THERE WAS
CONSENSUS FROM HIM TLOOS FROM

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CONSENSUS FROM HIM TLOOS FROM
WHAT I TOOK HE WANTED TO TAKE

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WHAT I TOOK HE WANTED TO TAKE
CARE OF THESE CASES BUT HE

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CARE OF THESE CASES BUT HE
WANTED TO WORK WITH CONGRESS.

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WANTED TO WORK WITH CONGRESS.
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME