>> JOINING ME NOW IS SOMEONE WHO
WAS THERE ON CAPITOL HILL THAT
DAY.
CONGRESSMAN HAKEEM JEFFERIES OF
NEW YORK.
HE’S THE CHAIR OF THE HOUSE
DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS AND WAS A
HOUSE MANAGER IN DONALD TRUMP’S
FIRST IMPEACHMENT TRIAL.
CONGRESSMAN JEFFERIES, GOOD TO
SEE YOU.
I HAVE TO TELL YOU, I KNOW
YOU’RE A PUBLIC FIGURE.
PUBLIC FIGURES ARE USED TO
THREATS, BUT THE ONE MADE TOWARD
YOUR FAMILY WAS A LOT MORE
SPECIFIC AND A LOT MORE SCARY
THAN SOMETHING YOU SHOULD BE
SUBJECT TO.
SOMEONE WAS SENDING YOUR FAMILY
TEXTS THREATENING HARM BECAUSE
OF -- I DON’T KNOW, BECAUSE OF
WHO YOU ARE?
>> WELL, THAT WAS A DEEPLY
TROUBLING SITUATION.
I’M THANKFUL FOR THE SWIFT
ACTION BY THE FBI, THE CAPITOL
POLICE AND THE NYPD AND ALL OF
THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITIES
WHO HAVE TAKEN THESE THREATS
SERIOUSLY AND WANTNOT JUST DIREC
AGAINST FAMILY MEMBERS OF MINE,
BUT ACROSS MEMBERS OF CONGRESS
AND FAMILY ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
WE ARE DEALING WITH WHITE
SUPREMACY RADICALIZED BY THE
FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED
STATES BY THE TELLING OF THE BIG
LIE THAT HE WON THE PRESIDENCY
AND THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN FROM
HIM AND THAT IS WHY THOSE
THREATS WERE DIRECTED AGAINST MY
FAMILY MEMBERS BECAUSE THEY
WANTED TO TRY TO INTIMIDATE ME
FROM WHAT THEY SAID WAS LYING
ABOUT THE ELECTION.
JOE BIDEN DID NOT WIN.
HE WILL NOT BE PRESIDENT OR THE
EXACT WORDS, AND SO I THINK WE
WILL PROCEED WITH AN IMPEACHMENT
DRILL SO THAT THE PRESIDENT OF
THE UNITED STATES CAN BE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE.
NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW.
HE INCITED A VIOLENT ATTACK ON
THE CAPITOL HELP OFFICERS WERE
BEATEN, ONE WAS KILLED THAT DAY.
TWO OTHERS HAVE TAKEN THEIR LIFE
THEREAFTER.
THE CAPITOL WAS DESECRATED,
URINE AND FECES WERE LEFT.
THOSE INDIVIDUALS WERE THERE TO
ASSASSINATE NANCY PELOSI, HANG
MIKE PENCE, AND HUNT DOWN
MEMBERS OF CONGRESS.
THERE MUST BE JUSTICE IN
AMERICA.
>> SO WHAT DO YOU THINK, THEN
ABOUT THIS OPTION THAT’S BEING
FLOATED OF CENSURE WHICH WOULD
ONLY NEED 50 VOTES IN THE SENATE
AS OPPOSED TO CONVICTION BY
TRIAL WHICH WOULD NEED
TWO-THIRDS?
>> I DON’T THINK MUCH OF IT AT
ALL AT THIS PARTICULAR POINT IN
TIME BECAUSE THE PROCESS OF
IMPEACHMENT HAS BEEN INITIATED.
THE HOUSE IN THE MOST BIPARTISAN
IMPEACHMENT VOTE IN AMERICAN
HISTORY HAS DETERMINED THAT THE
PRESIDENT SHOULD BE TRIED FOR
INCITING A VIOLENT INSURRECTION.
THE NEXT STEP OF THAT PROCESS IS
FOR THE SENATORS TO UNDERTAKE
THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL
RESPONSIBILITY.
ALI, WE’VE BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD
BEFORE.
WE HAVE REPUBLICAN SENATORS WHO
ARE TRYING TO FIND EVERY EXCUSE
IN THE WORLD TO EXONERATE THE
PRESIDENT.
DURING THE LAST IMPEACHMENT
TRIAL WHEN HE CLEARLY HAD
ENGAGED IN A CORRUPT ABUSE OF
POWER AS PART OF AN EFFORT TO
ARTIFICIALLY INTERFERE WITH THE
2020 ELECTION IN THE CONTEXT OF
THE TRUMP-UKRAINE SCANDAL.
NOW THE FRAMERS OF THE
CONSTITUTION PROVIDED TO US
WHICH IS IMPEACHMENT AND TRIAL.
I AM HOPEFUL THAT THE SENATORS
WILL FOLLOW THE FACTS, APPLY THE
LAW, BE GUIDED BY THE
CONSTITUTION AND LET THE CHIPS
FALL WHERE THEY MAY ONCE THEY
HAVE HEARD THE EVIDENCE WHICH
THE IMPEACHMENT MANAGERS ARE
GOING TO PRESENT IN A VERY
COMPELLING WAY.
>> CONGRESSMAN, AT LEAST IN A
JURY THERE’S SOME EFFORT TO MAKE
SURE THAT IN A JURY TRIAL, THERE
IS SOME EFFORT TO MAKE SURE THAT
THE JURORS ARE IMPARTIAL AND
OPEN MINDED.
YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO YOUR SPEAKER
IS CALLING THE ENEMY WITHIN
ALTHOUGH THEY WON’T BE VOTING IN
THE SENATE AND THE TRIAL.
THERE ARE TED CRUZ AND JOSH
HAWLEY HAVE BEEN ENTIRELY ON THE
WRONG SIDE OF THIS THING AND IN
YOUR HOUSE YOU HAVE MARJORIE
TAYLOR-GREENE.
DO YOU EVEN THINK YOU CAN REASON
WITH SOME PEOPLE.
>> YOU CERTAINLY CAN’T REASON
WITH SOME PEOPLE INCLUDING THOSE
INDIVIDUALS THAT YOU MENTIONED.
THEY ARE TAINTED JURORS.
LET’S KEEP IN MIND THAT THE
SENATE FLOOR IS NOT JUST GOING
TO BE A COURTROOM.
IT IS A CRIME SCENE AND THAT THE
INDIVIDUAL SENATORS ARE NOT JUST
JURORS.
THEY WERE VICTIMS AND WITNESSES
TO THE CRIMES THAT TOOK POLICE
ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY AND HAVE
SEEN IN COMPELLING FASHION AS
YOU SHOWED YOUR VIEWERS THERE
AV.
SO I BELIEVE THERE ARE ENOUGH
SENATORS WHO OBJECTIVELY COULD
MAKE UP THEIR MINDS TO CONVICT.
SOME, CERTAINLY, WE CAN WRITE
OFF LIKE TED CRUZ AND JOSH
HAWLEY, BUT I’M NOT PREPARED TO
WRITE ALL OF THEM OFF.
>> CONGRESSMAN, GOOD TO SEE YOU