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>> RIGHT.

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>> WE ARE ALL GOING TO BE GLUED

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TO WHAT THE RESULTS WILL BE

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SHOWING IN IOWA ON TUESDAY

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NIGHT, AREN’T WE?

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>> TO THE POINT OF TAKING IT

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SERIOUSLY, BUT ALSO SKEPTICALLY.

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ON ONE HAND, NO DOOR KNOCKING AS

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VAUGHN POINTS OUT.

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NO CANDIDATE VISITS AND NOT A

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SINGLE TV AD.

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>> IOWA HAS BEEN SPARED!

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>> ONE WAY TO LOOK AT IT FOR

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SURE.

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I THINK A LOT OF OTHER STATES

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WISH THAT WAS THE CASE.

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ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU DO HAVE

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TO WONDER HOW MUCH OF THIS

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ACTUALLY IS ISSUE-DRIVEN AS

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OPPOSED TO CANDIDATE SHOWING UP

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FOUR, FIVE, SIX TIMES, SOMETIMES

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IN EXACTLY THE SAME PLACE THEY

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WERE JUST A WEEK AGO, AND

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ABORTION IN THIS CASE MAY BE ONE

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OF THE DRIVING FACTORS.

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DOES IT APPLY TO BATTLEGROUND

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STATES WITH SIMILAR ELECTORATES?

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>> I THINK YOU NAILED THE POINT

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THIS IS NOT A STATE THAT HAS A

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TON OF MESSAGING AND A TON OF

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ADS.

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THIS IS MORE ORGANIC AND THIS IS

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HAPPENING BECAUSE OF EVENTS,

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BECAUSE OF HOW THEY ARE WATCHING

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THE NEWS AND INTERPRETING THE

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NEWS FROM THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.

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THEIR IT’S SAYING VOTERS ARE

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SICK OF TRUMP.

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I THINK IT ACTUALLY IS VOTERS

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WHO ARE JUST READY TO BE DONE

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WITH IT AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE

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STARTING TO SEE IN THIS POLL IF

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THE RESULTS HOLD.

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>> I NOTICED THAT SELZER WAS IN

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THE FIELD ON MONDAY, 28th, TO

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THURSDAY, 31st.

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THAT WAS AFTER MADISON SQUARE

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GARDEN.

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>> RIGHT.

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>> IT ALSO CAPTURES THE I’LL

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PROTECT WOMEN, WHETHER WOMEN

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WANT IT OR NOT.

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BUT THE UGLY RACIST RHETORIC

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FROM THE INTRODUCERS, AS WELL AS

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THE FORMER PRESIDENT HIMSELF AT

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MADISON SQUARE GARDEN.

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IT COULD HAVE BEEN CERTAINLY

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OFFENDING OLDER WOMEN.

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>> ABSOLUTELY.

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ALL PLXSOLITICS ARE NATIONAL.

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FUNDAMENTALLY IT SUPPORTS THE

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THEORY THAT THIS ENTIRE RACE,

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FROM START-TO-FINISH, IS AN

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ADJUDICATION OF DONALD TRUMP.

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IN THIS WAYS, HE HAS A CERTAIN

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AIR OF INCUMBENCY BECAUSE HE WAS

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THE PRESIDENT BECAUSE THE

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COUNTRY IS SO FAMILIAR WITH HIM.

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PART OF BEING FAMILIAR WITH HIM

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AND THE ADJUDICATION OF DONALD

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TRUMP IS HE GAVE US DOBBS.

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HE BRAGGED ABOUT DOBBS.

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SO IF YOUR VOTE IS INFORMED BY

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REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM YOU HANG

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THAT ON DONALD TRUMP.

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ALSO THE RHETORIC YOU HEARD AT

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MADISON SQUARE GARDEN.

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>> THE CLOSING RHETORIC WHEN

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PEOPLE ARE PAYING MORE

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ATTENTION.

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>> WOMEN WILL DECIDE THIS RACE.

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I STRONGLY BELIEVE BUT NOT ON

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THE ISSUE OF REPRODUCTIVE

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FREEDOM.

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THEY WILL DECIDE WHETHER DONALD

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TRUMP IS FIT TO LEAD THIS

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COUNTRY AND BE THE ROLE MODEL

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BACK IN THE OVAL OFFICE AND PART

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OF THEY HEARD IN MADISON SQUARE

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GARDEN AND PART OF THAT IS DOBBS

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AND YOU GO DOWN THE LIST.

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I THINK YOU NAME IT, ALL WOMEN,

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YOU GO DOWN THE VERTICAL THEY

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WILL TURN OUT AND DECIDE THIS

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ELECTION.

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MARK IS THE MASTER OF THE MY

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MINUTIA.

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DONALD TRUMP COMES ON THE SCENE

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IN 2016 AND PULLS OFF AN

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ELECTORATE WIN.

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DEMOCRATS OVERPERFORM IN 2018

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WITH THE BLUE WAVE AND JOE BIDEN

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WITH 80 ELECTORATE VOTE WIN IN

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2020 AND 2022 A RED WAVE,

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DEMOCRATS OVERPERFORM AGAIN.

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IF WE SEE TRUMP AND REPUBLICANS

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DO WELL TUESDAY NIGHT, IT WOULD

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BE THE FIRST DISRUPTION OF THAT

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TREND THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN EIGHT

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YEARS.

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I THINK THERE IS A REASON, IF

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YOU’RE VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS, TO

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BE ENCOURAGED.

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>> TIM IS AUTHOR OF THE NEW

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PIECE "INSIDE THE RUTHLESS

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RESTLESS FINAL DAYS OF TRUMP’S

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CAMPAIGN."

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THAT WAS NOT WRITTEN FOR TV

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SAYING OUTLOUD OR TV ANCHOR

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SAYING THAT.

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THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, TIM.

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>> THANK YOU.

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>> BRING US INSIDE THE RUTHLESS

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FINAL DAYS OF THE TRUMP

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CAMPAIGN.

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WHAT ARE YOU HEARING?

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>> YEAH.

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LOOK.

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I THINK THE TAKEAWAY HERE IS

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THAT A CAMPAIGN THAT WAS REALLY

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REMARKABLY PROFESSIONAL AND

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DISCIPLINED AND THAT HAD BUILT

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UPON -- BEEN BUILT UPON THIS

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IDEA OF RESTRAINT, RIGHT?

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THE OUTBURST FROM TRUMP ARE

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INEVITABLE

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INEVITABLE.

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THE BAD BEHAVIOR AND CRAZY

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RHETORIC, YOU’LL GET IT BECAUSE

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IT’S DONALD TRUMP.

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THE PEOPLE RUNNING THIS CAMPAIGN

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UNDERSTAND THAT.

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YET THE IDEA IF WE CAN MINIMIZE

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IT AND TRY TO CONTAIN IT AND IF

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WE CAN KEEP HIM MOSTLY ON

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MESSAGE AROUND IMMIGRATION,

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AROUND THE ECONOMY, AROUND, YOU

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KNOW, STRENGTH ON THE WORLD

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STAGE, THAT, LIKE, WE CAN -- IF

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WE ONLY PERFORM 10% BETTER THAN

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WE DID IN 2020, THEN WE ARE

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GOING TO WIN AND MAYBE WE WILL

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WIN COMFORTABLY.

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I THINK THE STORY HERE FOR SO

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MUCH OF THE CAMPAIGN, THEY HAD

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DONE THAT.

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THEY HAD BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN SORT

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OF CURBING SOME OF TRUMP’S MOST

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SELF-DESTRUCTIVE IMPULSES.

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YET, HERE OVER THE LAST SIX TO

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EIGHT WEEKS OF THE CAMPAIGN,

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IT’S ALL STARTED TO SLIP AWAY

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FROM THEM AND TRUMP, AT TIMES,

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HAS ALMOST SEEMED HELL-BENT ON

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SABOTAGING HIMSELF AND

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SABOTAGING HIS OWN CAMPAIGN.

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IT’S JUST LEFT EVERYONE IN HIS

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ORBIT FEELING TOTALLY DELUSIONED

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HERE DOWN THE HOME STRETCH.

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>> TIM, WE ARE WATCHING DONALD

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TRUMP RIGHT NOW IN RALEIGH.

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VAUGHN GAVE US BACKGROUND WHAT

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HE IS SEEING WITH THE TRUMP

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CAMPAIGN THE LAST WEEK,

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INCLUDING THE DWINDLING CROWDS.

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AT MADISON SQUARE GARDEN, I SAW

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A LOT OF PEOPLE LEAVING MAYBE 30

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MINUTES IN TO WHEN HE WAS

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TALKING.

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HE HAS BEEN OUT THERE 90 MINUTES

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PLUS ALREADY AND, BY THE WAY,

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THAT VENUE WE ARE TOLD IS ABOUT

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70% FULL.

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HE IS GOING BACK TO PLACES HE

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HAS BEEN TO BEFORE.

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TELL ME WHAT YOU SEE IN THIS

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CLOSING WEEK.

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AND WHAT THAT MIGHT SAY GOING

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FORWARD.

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IS IT POSSIBLE AT ALL THAT WHAT

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WE KNOW IS THE EXHAUSTION FACTOR

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FROM THE KAMALA HARRIS VOTERS?

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MAYBE AN EXHAUSTION FACTOR TO

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SOME EXTENT FROM SOME OF HIS OWN

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VOTERS.

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YOU, AT ONE POINT, TALKED ABOUT

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HOW THE CULPRIT OF THE PROBLEMS

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IN THE CAMPAIGN IS THE MAN WHO

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IS ADDICTED TO MAYHEM.

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>> THERE IS NO QUESTION.

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WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE TRUMP

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STRATEGY AS OF ABOUT A MONTH

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AGO, YOU NOTICED THAT AS KAMALA

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HARRIS WAS BEGINNING HER MEDIA

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BLITZ, SHE WAS REALLY, FOR THE

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FIRST TIME, KINDS OF EVERYWHERE

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ALL AT ONCE DOING LATE NIGHT

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SHOWS AND LONG SIT-DOWNS.

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YOU NOTICED THAT DURING THAT

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SAME TIME FRAME, PRETTY

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CONSPICUOUSLY, TRUMP HAD PULLED

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BACK AND HIS PEOPLE HAD HIM

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DOING A LOT OF THESE PODCASTS

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AND ALTERNATIVE MEDIA KEEPING

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HIM OUT OF THE SPOTLIGHT AND

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THAT WAS VERY MUCH INTENTIONAL

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BECAUSE ALL OF THE DATA THEY

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HAVE, ALL OF THE RESEARCH THAT

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THEY HAVE DONE HAS SHOWN THAT

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ACTUALLY LESS IS MORE WITH TRUMP

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AND THAT IF THEY CAN KEEP THE

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FOCUS ON HARRIS, IF THEY CAN

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JUST SEIZE ON EVERY WEIRD SOUND

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BITE, ANYTHING SHE SAYS OR DOES,

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THAT THEY BELIEVE IS GOING TO

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ALIENATE SOME OF THESE

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PERSUADABLE VOTERS, THAT THAT IS

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A NET POSITIVE.

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ANY DAY IS A FOCUS ON HARRIS IS

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A GOOD DAY FOR THE TRUMP

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CAMPAIGN WAS KIND OF THE OTHERS

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THEORY AND IT HELD UP PRETTY

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WELL.

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BUT I THINK WHAT WE HAVE SEEN

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HERE THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS,

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CERTAINLY OVER THE LAST WEEK AND

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A HALF OR SO, IS THAT TRUMP HAS

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BASICALLY SAID, NO, WE ARE NOT

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DOING THAT.

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LIKE, I’M GOING OUT ON MY TERMS.

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AND HIS TERMS I MEAN, KATY KNOWS

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THIS BETTER THAN ANYONE.

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DONALD TRUMP’S TERMS, HE WANTS

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ALL OF THE CAMERAS ON HIM.

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HE WANTS THE CROWD AND THE

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ATTENTION.

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HE WANTS TO BE CENTER STAGE, YOU

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KNOW, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE TRUMP

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SHOW AND HE IS THE LEADING MAN

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FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE.

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SO I THINK ANY OF THE KIND OF

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STRATEGIC EFFORTS THAT WE SAW

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FROM HIS CAMPAIGN THAT WERE

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PRETTY EFFECTIVE EARLIER ON,

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HAVE NOW JUST COMPLETELY FALLEN

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BY THE WAYSIDE.

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>> TIM, YOU OPENED YOUR PIECE

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WITH A REALLY TERRIBLE EPITHET

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HE WAS USING ON THE PLANE ABOUT

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JOE BIDEN AND EPITHET HAS NOT

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BEEN USED IN DECADES ABOUT

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PEOPLE MENTALLY CHALLENGED AND.

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HIS ADVISERS TALKED HIM OUT OF

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USING IT AND IN DAYS WE HAVE

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SEEN HIM UNLEASH.

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WE HAVE SEEN THAT CRUDE

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MICROPHONE GESTURE WHICH

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OFFENDED A LOT OF PEOPLE AT A

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RALLY AND SOME OF THE OTHER

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THINGS HE HAS DONE.

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THE VIOLENT RHETORIC, INCLUDING

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WHAT HE SAID LATER WAS A JOKE

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ABOUT WHAT COULD HAPPEN TO, YOU

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KNOW, THE MEDIA IF THEY GOT

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SHOT, EVEN THOUGH HE WAS

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PROTECTED BY BULLET-PROOF GLASS.

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WHAT IS GOING ON THERE?

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IS THIS PART OF AN UNRAVELING

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BECAUSE HE SEES THE CROWDS

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DIMINISHING AND MAYBE SEES SOME

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INTERNAL POLLING THAT THEY HAVE

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NOT SHARED WITH ANYONE?

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>> I CAN JUST TELL YOU GUYS

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THIS, BASED ON MY REPORTING FROM

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INSIDE THE CAMPAIGN FOR MOST OF

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THIS YEAR.

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THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN THIS

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STRANGE DISCONNECT IN THE SENSE

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THAT PEOPLE AROUND TRUMP

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RECOGNIZE THAT THIS ELECTION,

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CERTAINLY MORE THAN THE OTHER

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TWO, CARRY A CERTAIN EXISTENTIAL

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CONSEQUENCE FOR TRUMP.

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THAT IF HE LOSES, HE COULD BE

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FACING MORE CONVICTIONS AND HE

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COULD BE EVEN FACING JAIL TIME.

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AND SO IN ONE SENSE, YOU’RE

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LOOKING AT THAT AND THINKING,

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WELL, NOTHING SHOULD CONCENTRATE

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THE MIND LIKE THE POSSIBILITY OF

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GOING TO JAIL AND PEOPLE AROUND

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HIM HAVE, YOU KNOW, HAVE NOT

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SAID THAT TO HIM DIRECTLY BUT

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THEY HAVE SORT OF EMPHASIZED,

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LOOK, MR. PRESIDENT, WE GOT TO

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BEAR DOWN HERE.

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WE HAVE GOT TO STAY ON MESSAGE.

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IF YOU DO THESE THINGS, IF YOU

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DELIVER ON THESE THINGS THAT WE

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ARE TELLING YOU TO DO, THEN WE

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ARE GOING TO WIN, RIGHT?

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AND, AT TIMES, HE SEEMS TO HAVE

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BEEN VERY RECEPTIVE TO THAT.

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AND, YET, YOU ALSO HAVE THESE

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STRETCHES, LIKE THE ONE WE ARE

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IN NOW, WHERE HE ALMOST SEEMS

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DETERMINED TO BLOW THIS THING

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UP.

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HE ALMOST SEEMS LIKE HE WANTS TO

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SEE JUST HOW CLOSE HE CAN GET TO

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SELF-DESTRUCTION.

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IN THE CLOSING DAYS OF THE

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CAMPAIGN, OF ALL THINGS, I WAS

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HAVING A CONVERSATION FRIDAY

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NIGHT WITH SOMEBODY VERY CLOSE

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TO TRUMP WHO WAS JUST AUDIBLY

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DISTRAUGHT TALKING ABOUT HOW

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THEY CAN’T QUITE UNDERSTAND IT,

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BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON, HE IS

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JUST IN A DARK PLACE RIGHT NOW

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AND JUST SEEMS -- SEEMS LIKE HE

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IS CLOSING THIS CAMPAIGN ON THIS

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REALLY NEGATIVE, VIOLENT NOTE

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WHERE THEY WANT TO BE RUNNING

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THROUGH THE TAPE ON THIS KIND OF

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POSITIVE UNIFYING NOTE, AND THEY

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HAVE JUST KIND -- THEY ALL

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RECOGNIZE WHO THIS MAN IS THAT

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THEY ARE WORKING FOR.

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THEY CAN’T FORCE HIM TO SAY OR

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DO WHAT THEY WANT HIM TO DO, BUT

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THEY WERE HOPING, HOPING THAT

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THIS CAMPAIGN WOULD END

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DIFFERENTLY THAN THE WAY THAT