WEBVTT 00:09.944 --> 00:11.168 >> DONALD TRUMP HAS TOLD US HIS 00:11.179 --> 00:12.511 >> DONALD TRUMP HAS TOLD US HIS 00:12.545 --> 00:14.439 PRIORITIES FOR A SECOND TERM. 00:14.450 --> 00:17.134 HE SAYS THAT ONE OF HIS HIGHEST 00:17.168 --> 00:19.893 PRIORITIES IS TO SET FREE THE 00:19.904 --> 00:21.074 VIOLENT EXTREMISTS WHO 00:21.075 --> 00:23.730 ASSAULTED THOSE LAW ENFORCEMENT 00:23.731 --> 00:26.439 OFFICERS ON JANUARY 6. 00:26.474 --> 00:28.323 >>> VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS 00:28.334 --> 00:32.146 REVISITING THE SCENE OF DONALD 00:32.181 --> 00:34.918 TRUMP JANUARY 6 CRIMES WHERE HE 00:34.929 --> 00:38.380 URGED HIS FOLLOWERS TO GO TO 00:38.415 --> 00:40.349 THE CAPITOL AND FIGHT LIKE . 00:40.360 --> 00:41.415 THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ARE 00:41.416 --> 00:43.012 RELIVING HOW THAT THEY CHANGE 00:43.046 --> 00:44.369 THEIR LIVES, INCLUDING THE 00:44.380 --> 00:45.594 FAMILIES OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE 00:45.605 --> 00:47.901 BEEN ARRESTED, CONVICTED AND 00:47.935 --> 00:49.254 SENTENCED TO PRISON FOR 00:49.256 --> 00:50.143 ATTACKING THE CAPITOL. 00:50.145 --> 00:51.695 SOME OF THOSE FAMILY MEMBERS 00:51.706 --> 00:54.581 AGREE WITH WHAT THEIR CONVICTED 00:54.592 --> 00:56.516 RELATIVES DID, BUT MANY OF THEM 00:56.550 --> 00:57.970 SHARPLY DISAGREE WITH WHAT 00:57.972 --> 00:59.712 THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS DID ON 00:59.713 --> 01:00.585 THAT DAY. 01:00.586 --> 01:03.527 ONE OF THOSE FAMILY MEMBERS WHO 01:03.528 --> 01:06.901 DISAGREES IS OUR NEXT GUEST. HE 01:06.912 --> 01:09.252 WAS 18 YEARS OLD AND LIVING 01:09.263 --> 01:14.338 WITH HIS PARENTS IN TEXAS WITH 01:14.373 --> 01:18.393 HIS FATHER WHEN HE WATCHED HIM 01:18.404 --> 01:19.887 DESCEND INTO TRUMP PARANOIA, 01:19.888 --> 01:21.373 DRIVE TO WASHINGTON WITH HIS 01:21.374 --> 01:23.619 GUNS TO HELP INSTALL DONALD 01:23.621 --> 01:24.896 TRUMP AND THE PRESIDENCY. 01:24.930 --> 01:28.384 THAT STORY IS TOLD IN A 01:28.385 --> 01:30.557 BRILLIANT AND POWERFUL PLAY AT 01:30.568 --> 01:33.198 NEW YORK CITY CENTER CONCEIVED 01:33.209 --> 01:36.045 AND DIRECTED BY STEPHEN SACHS, 01:36.080 --> 01:38.849 IT USES PUBLIC RECORDS AND 01:38.850 --> 01:44.217 TRIAL TRANSCRIPTS TO TELL THIS 01:44.228 --> 01:45.958 REAL-LIFE FATHER-SOME DRAMA. 01:45.969 --> 01:50.255 >> EVERYBODY THAT WAS THERE ON 01:50.266 --> 01:53.422 THE SIXTH SHOULD BE LOCKED UP 01:53.433 --> 01:55.180 FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. 01:55.191 --> 01:56.165 EVERY ONE. 01:56.200 --> 01:59.110 >> ARE YOU RECORDING THIS? 01:59.121 --> 02:00.365 ARE YOU RECORDING THIS? 02:00.400 --> 02:00.851 NO. 02:00.852 --> 02:05.267 I AM NOT RECORDING. 02:05.278 --> 02:08.465 >> YOU BETTER NOT BE DON’T 02:08.499 --> 02:09.631 BETRAY ME. 02:09.633 --> 02:11.355 DON’T RUIN THIS FAMILY. 02:11.357 --> 02:12.659 DON’T PUT THIS FAMILY IN 02:12.670 --> 02:13.548 JEOPARDY. 02:13.559 --> 02:16.654 >> I AM NOT THE ONE PUTTING 02:16.688 --> 02:18.020 THIS FAMILY IN JEOPARDY. 02:18.031 --> 02:19.685 >> IF YOU CROSS THE LINE I WILL 02:19.696 --> 02:20.485 DO MY DUTY. 02:20.486 --> 02:21.961 I WILL HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE. 02:21.963 --> 02:23.546 CHOOSE A SIDE OR DIE. 02:23.580 --> 02:30.143 I PUT YOU IN THIS WORLD I CAN 02:30.154 --> 02:31.420 TAKE YOU OUT. 02:31.421 --> 02:33.377 DON’T TURN YOUR BACK ON ME. 02:33.378 --> 02:36.116 >> I’M NOT TURNING MY BACK. 02:36.127 --> 02:38.221 >> IF YOU TURN YOUR BACK ON ME 02:38.232 --> 02:39.287 YOU’RE A TRAITOR. 02:39.288 --> 02:45.008 IF YOU TURN ME AND YOU ARE A 02:45.043 --> 02:45.467 TRAITOR 02:45.469 --> 02:48.113 >> HE CALLED THE FBI TO TURN IN 02:48.114 --> 02:53.597 HIS FATHER WHO IS NOW SERVING A 02:53.608 --> 02:56.188 SEVEN-YEAR SENTENCE. WHEN HE 02:56.189 --> 02:57.917 TALKED ABOUT RELEASING HIS 02:57.928 --> 03:02.734 FATHER JACKSON TOLD THE NEW 03:02.745 --> 03:05.062 YORK TIMES IT IS TERRIFYING. 03:05.063 --> 03:06.546 JACKSON IS JOINING US NOW. 03:06.581 --> 03:08.420 THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. 03:08.421 --> 03:10.688 I JUST SAW THIS PLAY LAST 03:10.699 --> 03:15.272 WEEKEND I AM STILL IN THE BUZZ 03:15.273 --> 03:17.448 OF IT. IT IS SO POWERFUL. 03:17.459 --> 03:19.058 I KNOW YOU HAVE SEEN IT AND 03:19.059 --> 03:20.697 LIVED THROUGH IT. 03:20.708 --> 03:23.484 WHAT WILL IT MEAN TO YOU IF ALL 03:23.495 --> 03:28.823 OF THE JANUARY 6 PRISONERS ARE 03:28.834 --> 03:30.573 RELEASED ON INAUGURATION DAY? 03:30.584 --> 03:32.548 >> IT MEANS I’M ALWAYS GOING TO 03:32.559 --> 03:33.904 BE IN DANGER. 03:33.905 --> 03:36.611 TRUMP HAS SAID ONE OF THE 03:36.622 --> 03:37.953 BIGGEST TARGETS IS THE ENEMY 03:37.987 --> 03:38.669 WITHIN. 03:38.680 --> 03:42.128 I’M SURE FROM A LOT OF 03:42.139 --> 03:45.097 PERSPECTIVES SUCH AS TRUMP’S, 03:45.108 --> 03:47.077 I’M ONE OF THOSE EXAMPLES. 03:47.079 --> 03:48.691 IF MY FATHER AND EVERYONE 03:48.725 --> 03:50.921 INVOLVED IN JANUARY 6 IS 03:50.932 --> 03:52.433 RELEASED, I DON’T KNOW WHAT 03:52.435 --> 03:54.267 ELSE TO THINK OTHER THAN FEAR. 03:54.268 --> 03:56.029 >> DO YOU HAVE ANY HOPE THAT 03:56.040 --> 03:57.780 ANYTHING HAS CHANGED FOR YOUR 03:57.791 --> 04:00.799 FATHER BY BEING IN PRISON AND HE MIGHT POSSIBLY COME OUT WISER 04:00.810 --> 04:03.707 HE MIGHT POSSIBLY COME OUT WISER 04:03.742 --> 04:06.628 FROM THAT EXPERIENCE? 04:06.639 --> 04:09.915 >> ONE OF THE BIGGEST REGRETS I 04:09.950 --> 04:12.461 HAVE IS BEING IGNORANT TO THE 04:12.472 --> 04:15.975 FACT THAT HE MIGHT, PRISON 04:15.986 --> 04:18.258 MIGHT HAVE HELPED HIM, IT MIGHT 04:18.259 --> 04:20.912 HAVE PUSHED HIM AWAY FROM THOSE 04:20.913 --> 04:23.340 MILITIAS AND EXTREME GROUPS. 04:23.374 --> 04:26.713 YET AS TIME HAS GONE ON HE HAS 04:26.724 --> 04:28.368 ONLY GOTTEN MORE RADICALIZED IN 04:28.379 --> 04:31.518 PRISON BY BEING WITH LIKE- 04:31.519 --> 04:34.100 MINDED PEOPLE. MY BIGGEST REGRET IS NOT BEING AWARE THAT 04:34.111 --> 04:36.412 REGRET IS NOT BEING AWARE THAT 04:36.413 --> 04:41.016 THAT WOULD HAPPEN. IT HAS ONLY 04:41.017 --> 04:41.844 GOTTEN WORSE. 04:41.845 --> 04:43.497 >> THERE IS SO MUCH COMPLEXITY 04:43.498 --> 04:44.847 IN YOUR RELATIONSHIP THAT IS 04:44.849 --> 04:47.476 REVEALED IN THE COURT 04:47.478 --> 04:49.054 TRANSCRIPTS IN THE BRILLIANT 04:49.065 --> 04:50.121 CROSS-EXAMINATION BY LARRY 04:50.122 --> 04:52.624 POINDEXTER WHO PLAYS YOUR 04:52.658 --> 04:54.261 FATHER’S DEFENSE ATTORNEY. 04:54.262 --> 04:56.878 AND A PLACE THE PROSECUTOR 04:56.889 --> 04:59.222 ASKING PATRICK KELLEHER, WHO WE 04:59.233 --> 05:00.391 SAW PLAYING YOU, THOSE 05:00.392 --> 05:01.095 QUESTIONS. 05:01.129 --> 05:07.413 IT REALLY IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU 05:07.424 --> 05:10.012 WENT THROUGH IN THE COURTROOM. 05:10.023 --> 05:12.111 WHEN WE SIT THERE IN THE 05:12.146 --> 05:14.524 THEATER SEEING WHAT YOU GO 05:14.525 --> 05:16.343 THROUGH, ONE OF THE WORDS THAT 05:16.344 --> 05:18.973 GETS REPEATED MORE THAN ONCE IS 05:18.984 --> 05:21.263 THE WORD LOVE. THAT IS A WORD 05:21.274 --> 05:23.859 REPEATED BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR 05:23.894 --> 05:25.526 FATHER FOR EACH OTHER. 05:25.537 --> 05:27.877 THERE’S A COMPLEXITY TO THE 05:27.888 --> 05:29.962 FEELINGS HERE IN THE STORY THAT 05:29.997 --> 05:33.892 IS TOLD HERE THAT IS SO 05:33.903 --> 05:35.361 PROFOUND AND SO RICH. 05:35.362 --> 05:38.205 CAN YOU DESCRIBE YOUR FEELINGS 05:38.239 --> 05:39.615 FOR YOUR FATHER NOW? 05:39.616 --> 05:41.780 >> HE IS MY FATHER. 05:41.791 --> 05:44.117 I STILL LOVE HIM. THAT DOES NOT 05:44.152 --> 05:46.425 JUSTIFY ANY OF HIS ACTIONS AND 05:46.436 --> 05:47.415 IT WON’T. 05:47.416 --> 05:50.610 IF HE CONTINUES TO ACT LIKE 05:50.621 --> 05:55.141 THIS, HE RAISED ME TO BE THE 05:55.152 --> 05:57.511 PERSON I AM TODAY, THE HONEST, 05:57.512 --> 05:59.528 THE TRUSTWORTHY PERSON I HAVE 05:59.562 --> 06:00.419 COME. 06:00.430 --> 06:03.618 HE GAVE ME ALL THE PRIVILEGE I 06:03.619 --> 06:06.457 HAVE IN MY LIFE TO BE WHO I AM 06:06.458 --> 06:10.285 BECAUSE HE GAVE THAT TO ME, 06:10.296 --> 06:11.739 BECAUSE HE RAISED ME. 06:11.750 --> 06:13.870 I STILL LOVE HIM. 06:13.881 --> 06:16.073 HE MEANS THE WORLD TO ME. THAT 06:16.074 --> 06:18.037 IS WHAT MADE THAT DECISION SO 06:18.071 --> 06:20.069 HARD IS BECAUSE IF I WOULD NOT 06:20.071 --> 06:21.465 HAVE MADE THAT DECISION, WHO 06:21.476 --> 06:22.531 KNOWS HOW FAR IT WOULD HAVE 06:22.532 --> 06:23.128 GONE. 06:23.130 --> 06:26.138 WHO COULD HAVE GOTTEN HURT, IF 06:26.149 --> 06:29.490 HE COULD HAVE GOTTEN HURT, ALL 06:29.524 --> 06:33.097 OF THIS PARANOIA BUILT UP OVER 06:33.108 --> 06:38.606 THE YEARS, I CAN ONLY IMAGINE. 06:38.617 --> 06:41.308 >> STEPHEN SACHS CRIT -- TAKES 06:41.342 --> 06:43.394 CREDIT AS A DIRECTOR. 06:43.405 --> 06:48.037 HE DOES NOT TAKE CREDIT AS A 06:48.048 --> 06:48.530 PLAYWRIGHT. 06:48.564 --> 06:51.518 HE USED THE TRANSCRIPTS AND IS 06:51.529 --> 06:52.697 MODESTLY NOT TAKING CREDIT 06:52.708 --> 06:53.763 BECAUSE OF THAT. 06:53.764 --> 06:57.170 THE STORY IS ALL YOURS, YOUR 06:57.181 --> 06:59.004 FATHER’S, EVERY WORD OF IT IS 06:59.005 --> 06:59.342 REAL. 06:59.343 --> 07:00.859 IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO YOUR 07:00.894 --> 07:03.227 FATHER TONIGHT, WHAT WOULD YOU 07:03.228 --> 07:04.249 SAY TO HIM? 07:04.260 --> 07:07.684 >> I WOULD TELL HIM AGAIN THAT 07:07.695 --> 07:09.794 I’M SORRY AND I UNDERSTAND THE 07:09.805 --> 07:12.840 POSITION HE WAS PUT IN AS A 07:12.851 --> 07:15.909 FATHER. IN TIMES OF HORRIBLE 07:15.920 --> 07:19.006 HARDSHIP WITH RESPONSIBILITIES 07:19.017 --> 07:23.924 THAT VERY FEW CAN RELATE TO, 07:23.935 --> 07:26.034 WITH THAT MUCH ANXIETY AND 07:26.035 --> 07:27.490 BEING THAT SCARED NOT KNOWING 07:27.525 --> 07:29.426 WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN AND 07:29.427 --> 07:30.572 MAKING THAT CHOICE, THINKING 07:30.573 --> 07:32.803 THAT WILL SAVE YOUR FAMILY. 07:32.814 --> 07:34.866 YOU CAN’T HELP BUT FEEL FOR 07:34.867 --> 07:38.495 SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND I DO 07:38.506 --> 07:43.175 AND I LOVE HIM, BUT I CAN’T SAY 07:43.210 --> 07:44.777 ANYTHING TO HIM OTHER THAN 07:44.788 --> 07:45.950 PLEASE STOP. 07:45.951 --> 07:49.700 PLEASE STOP GOING DOWN THIS 07:49.711 --> 07:52.437 WRONG PATH. IT IS SO HARD TO 07:52.438 --> 07:54.539 TALK TO HIM NOW GIVEN 07:54.573 --> 07:55.767 EVERYTHING THAT HAS HAPPENED. 07:55.768 --> 07:58.935 THERE IS SO MUCH HEARTBREAK 07:58.946 --> 08:01.044 WHEN IT COMES TO CALLING HIM. 08:01.045 --> 08:02.513 IT IS NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE. 08:02.547 --> 08:05.731 IF I WERE ABLE TO SPEAK TO HIM 08:05.732 --> 08:09.219 NOW IT WOULD BE I LOVE YOU. 08:09.230 --> 08:10.962 >> JACKSON, THANK YOU VERY MUCH 08:10.963 --> 08:11.686 FOR JOINING US. 08:11.697 --> 08:13.170 >> THANK YOU. 08:13.204 --> 08:15.038 >> THE PLAY IS CALLED 08:15.049 --> 08:15.577 FATHERLAND. 08:15.588 --> 08:18.099 IT’S RUNNING AT NEW YORK CITY 08:18.100 --> 08:19.170 CENTER UNTIL NOVEMBER 10.