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WOMEN WHO HAVE LEFT THEIR STATE

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TO OBTAIN ABORTION CARE SO THEY

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CAN USE THOSE MEDICAL RECORDS

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TO TRACK YOU DOWN AND BRING

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CHARGES.

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JOINING US NOW IS SENATOR

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BOOKER OF NEW JERSEY.

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THANK YOU FOR JOINING US IN

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WHAT IS AN INCREDIBLY BUSY AND

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FRAUGHT NEWS CYCLE AND IT IS A W

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PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU HERE.

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>> IT IS ALWAYS GOOD TO BE WITH

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YOU, RACHEL.

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>> I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE

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CHOICE OF YOUR SEND IT

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COLLEAGUE TO BE DONALD TRUMP’S

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RUNNING MATE AND ASK YOU ABOUT

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SOMETHING CLOSER TO HOME.

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YOUR NEAREST SENATE COLLEAGUE,

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YOUR FELLOW TO NEW JERSEY

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SENATOR WAS FOUND GUILTY ON 16

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FEDERAL CHARGES OF CORRUPTION

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INCLUDING BRIBERY AND TODAY YOU

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AGAIN CALLED FOR HIM TO RESIGN

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AND WANT TO GET YOUR REACTION AN

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TO THAT VERDICT.

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I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU WHAT

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YOU EXPECT TO HAPPEN HERE IN

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THE CASE OF THE SENATOR.

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>> BOB IS A FIGURE THAT THOSE

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PEOPLE FROM NEW JERSEY KNOW AND

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HE HAS BEEN WORKING IN PUBLIC

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LIFE FOR DECADES.

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THIS IS A PAINFUL DAY OF REAL

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HEARTBREAK AND FRANKLY DEEP

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DISAPPOINTMENT WITH THE JURY

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SWORN TO OBJECTIVITY AND A JURY

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OF HIS PEERS FOUND BY THE

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HIGHEST CRIMINAL STANDARD

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BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT THAT

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HE WAS GUILTY ON ALL 16

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CHARGES.

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YES, HE MUST STAND UP NOW AND

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LEAD THE SENATE AND HE MUST DO

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THAT.

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IF HE REFUSES TO DO THAT, MANY

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OF US WILL NOW LEAD THAT EFFORT

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TO MAKE SURE HE IS REMOVED FROM

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THE SENATE.

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>> MEANING YOU WOULD LEAD THE

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EFFORT TO EXPEL HIM FROM THE

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SENATE IF HE REFUSES TO RESIGN?

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>> ABSOLUTELY.

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IT IS THE RIGHT AND JUST THING

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TO DO.

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>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT

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BROADENING THE LENS ON THIS

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ISSUE.

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IT HAS BEEN LONG EXPECTED THAT

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IF A MEMBER OF CONGRESS OR A

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MEMBER OF THE UNITED STATES

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SENATE IS CONVICTED OR, IN SOME

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CASES, ARGUABLY, INDICTED AND

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IT HAS BEEN ARGUED THAT AN

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INDICTMENT SHOULD TRIGGER THIS

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AS WELL THAT THAT MEMBER SHOULD

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RESIGN OR EXPECT TO BE REMOVED.

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WE DO SEE THAT PLAY OUT RIGHT

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NOW WITH YOUR FELLOW NEW JERSEY

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SENATOR AND NOT ONLY YOU AS THE

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FELLOW HOME STATE SENATOR BUT

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CHUCK SCHUMER AND THE GOVERNOR

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OF NEW JERSEY ALL INSISTING

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THAT DEMOCRATS LOUDLY INSISTING

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THAT HE MUST GO AND NO QUESTION

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ABOUT IT AND IT IS NO LONGER UP

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TO HIM.

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I CAN’T HELP BUT REMARK ON THE

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TIMING THAT THIS IS HAPPENING

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ON A DAY WHEN THE REPUBLICANS

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ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR

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NOMINATING CONVENTION FOR

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SOMEBODY WHO HAS JUST BEEN

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CONVICT DID ON 34 FELONY COUNTS

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AND NOT ONLY ASKING HIM TO

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LEAVE THE TICKET BUT PROMOTED

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HIM TO BE THE NOMINEE OF THEIR

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PARTY FOR THE PRESIDENCY FOR

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THE THIRD TIME RUNNING AND ARE

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PROJECTING WHAT APPEARS TO BE

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100% UNANIMITY EVEN THOSE

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RIVALS WHO ARE HARSH CRITICS AT

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TIMES PARTICULARLY NIKKI HALEY

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SAYING THEY ARE ALL IN FOR HIM

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WITH NO MENTION OF THESE FELONY

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CHARGES AT ALL AND THIS

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CONTRAST STRIKES ME TODAY AND

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EVEN IN THIS PAINFUL MOMENT FOR

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NEW JERSEY SHE SAID AND I

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IMAGINE IT STRIKES YOU AS WELL.

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>> IT STRIKES ME MORE DEEPLY

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THAN THAT.

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DONALD TRUMP WITH THE JOURNEY

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-- A JURY SWORN TO OBJECTIVITY

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THAT CONVICTED HIM BEYOND A

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REASONABLE DOUBT ON 34 CHARGES

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SHOULD ALONE BE ENOUGH FOR

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ANYBODY TO BE DISQUALIFIED FROM

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THE HIGHEST OFFICE OF THE LAND

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AND THERE ARE A LOT OF

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HONORABLE REPUBLICANS WHO HAVE

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SHOWN CAREERS AND PATRIOTISM OW

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FROM THE MILITARY AND SERVING

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SENATORS AND GOVERNORS TO HAVE

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A MAN THAT NOT ONLY HAS 34

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FELONY CONVICTIONS BUT PENDING

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FEDERAL CHARGES, CRIMINAL

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CHARGES, AGAINST HIM. HIS

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BUSINESS PRACTICES.

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HE PAID HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF

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DOLLARS IN FINES FOR CORRUPTED

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BUSINESS PRESS USES.

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HIS CHARITY WAS DISBANDED FOR

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CORRUPT PRACTICES AND FORCED TO

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PLAY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS -- PAY

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MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

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SEVERAL CRIMES ARE ADDING UP

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INCLUDING ONE FOR SEXUAL

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ASSAULT.

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WE ARE A NATION THAT SHOULD DO R

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BETTER THAN THIS AND REPUBLICAN

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VALUES ARE AMERICAN VALUES AND

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THIS BELIES COMMON SENSE REALLY

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THE MORAL LEADERSHIP NEEDED AND

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ABOUT THE FOLKS I AM WALKING

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TONIGHT FROM NIKKI HALEY TO

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DESANTIS.

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THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE ON

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THAT STAGE TONIGHT THAT HE HAS

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NOT ONLY BEEN IN DEEP

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DISAGREEMENT WITH ON POLICY

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ISSUES ON BUT HE HAS SOUGHT TO

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DEGRADE AND DEMEAN THEM IN THE

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MOST PERSONAL WAYS AND

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VICIOUSLY HE WENT AFTER PEOPLE

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IN THE MOST OUTRAGEOUS WAYS.

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NOW THEY ARE RUNNING TO THAT

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STAGE TO ENDORSE HIM.

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THIS IS NOT WHAT WE NEED IN

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AMERICA.

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WE DON’T NEED SOMEBODY WHO

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DEALS IN DEGRADING WITH PEOPLE

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IN THEIR OWN PARTY AND WE DON’T

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DEFINITELY NEED A FELONY -- A

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FELON CONVICTED IN FEDERAL

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COURT AND SOMEBODY WHO IS PAID
OUT MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF

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OUT MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF

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DOLLARS IN CIVIL FRAUD FROM HIS

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CHARITABLE EFFORTS TO BUSINESS

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LIFE TO THE ACCOUNTS AGAINST

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HIM THAT HE IS SOMEBODY WHO IS

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THOROUGHLY CORRUPT IN A WAY

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THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN IN COURT

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AFTER COURT AFTER COURT.

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>> ONE OF YOUR COLLEAGUES IN

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THE U.S. SENATE HAS BEEN CHOSEN

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TO BE DONALD TRUMP’S RUNNING

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MATE AND MR. VANCE HASN’T BEEN

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IN THE SENATE FOR VERY LONG AND

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HE WAS ONLY SWORN IN FOR THE

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FIRST TIME LAST YEAR AND HE HAS

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BEEN THERE A YEAR AND A HALF
AND 39 YEARS OLD AND I WANT TO

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AND 39 YEARS OLD AND I WANT TO

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ASK YOUR REACTION ABOUT HIS

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SELECTION BECAUSE THINGS ARE

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GETTING ATTENTION BECAUSE OF

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HIS SUBSTANCE AND HIS

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ARTICULATED POSITIONS AND I

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THINK WHAT COULD BE CONSTRUED

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AS THE MOST RADICAL HARD BEHILIN

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PRO-RUSSIAN ANTI-UKRAINE AND

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ANTI-NATO POSITION OF ALL

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MEMBERS OF THE UNITED STATES

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SENATE ARGUABLY.

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ALSO HARD LINE NO EXCEPTIONS

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PRO-NATIONAL ABORTION BAN

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POSITION, WHICH IS SOMETHING

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THAT I FEEL LIKE HAS A

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DIFFERENT CAST AS A FIRST

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ELECTION SINCE WE ARE FACING

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SINCE THE RIGHT TO HAVE AN

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ABORTION WAS TAKEN AWAY BY THE

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US SUPREME COURT AND WHAT IS

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YOUR REACTION TO TRUMP’S

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RUNNING MATE?

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>> YOU ARE JUMPING OVER THE

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BIGGEST MOST OBVIOUS THING AND

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I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD BE ASKING

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TRYING TO REELECT DONALD TRUMP.

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WHERE IS DONALD TRUMP’S VICE

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PRESIDENT?

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WHERE IS MIKE PENCE?

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HE IS NOT THERE.

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AND NEITHER IS HIS FORMER CHIEF
OF STAFF OR SECRETARY OF

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OF STAFF OR SECRETARY OF

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DEFENSE AND I COULD GO TO SO

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MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE THE FOLKS

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WHO WORKED MOST CLOSELY WITH

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HIM WHO ARE NOT ONLY AT THAT

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CONVENTION BUT DON’T THINK YOU

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SHOULD BE PRESIDENT AND HAVE

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SAID SO PUBLIC THE.

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THE THING THAT MOST FRIGHTENS

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ME AND SHOWED A LOT OF

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AMERICANS IS THAT PENCE ISN’T

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THERE BECAUSE HE SAVED OUR

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DEMOCRACY BECAUSE HE SAID I

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WILL MOVE FORWARD AND CERTIFY

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AN ELECTION BUT EVEN DONALD

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TRUMP’S HIGHEST ELECTION

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OFFICERS SAID WAS A FAIR

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ELECTION.

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AND SO WE NOW HAVE A VACANCY

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FOR DONALD TRUMP TO FILL.

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HIS FIRST CRITERIA IS TO MAKE

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SURE HE PICKS SOMEBODY WHO,

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SHOULD WE BE IN THAT POSITION

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AGAIN, A LAWFUL ELECTION IN THE

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U.S. PROVEN BY COURT CHALLENGE

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AFTER COURT CHALLENGE AND NOBLE

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REPUBLICAN STATE ACTORS THAT WE

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SAW IN GEORGIA HAVE TO FIGHT

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THE PRESIDENTS UNJUST EFFORTS

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TO INTERFERE WITH IN THE

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ELECTION, HE PICKED SOMEBODY

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WHO SAID PUBLICLY THAT IF I

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WERE IN THE SAME SPACE AS MIKE

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PENCE, I WOULDN’T DO THE RIGHT

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THING OR THE HONORABLE THING

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AND I WOULD SUBVERT THE

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DEMOCRATIC ELECTIONS.
HE IS MY COLLEAGUE AND I HAVE

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HE IS MY COLLEAGUE AND I HAVE

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MET WITH HIM AND SAT WITH THEM

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AND I KNOW HOW DIFFICULT IT IS O

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TO PUT YOURSELF ON THE NATIONAL

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STAGE AND I WISH HIM AND HIS

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FAMILY THE BEST BUT, NUMBER

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ONE, I KNOW AND WORRY ABOUT THE

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OUTCOME OF THE SELECTION THAT

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HE AND OTHERS HAVE CLEARLY SAID

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HE WON’T HONOR THE OUTCOME OF

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THIS ELECTION UNLESS OF COURSE

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DONALD TRUMP WINS.

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AS FAR AS HIS EXTREME VIEWS, I

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AM GRATEFUL BECAUSE THIS LAYS

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CLAIM FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

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THAT THIS IS AN ELECTION THAT

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IS A CLEAR CHOICE ABOUT

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ABORTION AND ACCESS TO ABORTION

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CARE AND A CLEAR CHOICE ABOUT

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SOCIAL SECURITY WITH HIS VOICE

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ON WHAT HE WANTS TO DO AND SO

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MANY THINGS, THIS IS AN EXTREME

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CANDIDATE THAT HAS CLEAR VIEWS

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AND IT IS A CLEAR CHOICE AND I

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HOPE AMERICA CAN SEE THAT.

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>> THIS IS LAWRENCE O’DONNELL.

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THE U.S. ATTORNEY SAID THIS

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FINALLY PUTS AN END TO WHAT HE

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CALLED THE YEARS OF CORRUPTION

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BY SENATOR MENENDEZ AND IN THE

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SWEEP OF THAT STATEMENT IT DID

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CERTAINLY SOUND LIKE THEY WERE

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REFERRING TO AND INCLUDING THE

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FIRST FEDERAL CRIMINAL

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PROSECUTION OF SENATOR MENENDEZ

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WHICH ENDED IN A HUNG JURY.

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DO YOU REGRET IMMEDIATELY

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CHAMPION -- CHAMPIONING HIM?

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>> IT WAS A HUNG JUROR.

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ONE JUROR WOULDN’T RENDER A NOT

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GUILTY VERDICT.

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LOOK, LAWRENCE.

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THIS IS REPREHENSIBLE BEHAVIOR

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CONVICTED OF,

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THESE 16 COUNTS INVOLVING NOT

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ONLY HONEST THEFT OF SERVICES

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BUT DOING THINGS FOR FOREIGN

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GOVERNMENTS THAT COULD DO THIS

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AND HE NEEDS TO STEP DOWN RIGHT

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NOW.

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THERE ARE SO MANY IN NEW JERSEY

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WHO BELIEVED IN HIM AND

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MILLIONS WHO VOTED FOR HIM BUT

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THIS IS A DARK AND PAINFUL DAY.

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HE WAS CONVICTED BY THIS JURY

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AND THAT IS WHAT IS HURTING A

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LOT OF US RIGHT NOW AND THE

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CHARGES ARE EXTRAORDINARILY

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PAINFUL.

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>> AS YOU KNOW THE SENATE

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ETHICS COMMITTEE DID FIND IN

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THAT FIRST CRIMINAL CASE

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AGAINST HIM AFTER THEY READ THE

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FULL COURT TRANSCRIPT AND

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EXAMINED ALL THE EXHIBITS, THEY

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FOUND THAT SENATOR MENENDEZ

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SEVEN YEARS AGO VIOLATED SENATE

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RULES AND RELATED STATUTES

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WHICH MEANS THE COMMITTEE FOUND

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HE BROKE LAWS AND WASN’T THAT

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THE TIME TO EXPEL HIM?

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>> THEY DIDN’T RECOMMEND

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EXPULSION BUT THEY WROTE THE

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MOST SERIOUS REBUKE I KNOW OF.

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TO ME THAT WITH THE TIME THAT

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ALL OF US SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT

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TWICE.

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YOU KNOW THIS.

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SENATOR MENENDEZ WAS DULY

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REELECTED BY THE PEOPLE WHO

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HAVE ALL OF THOSE BACK AND
PUTTING THAT FORWARD.

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PUTTING THAT FORWARD.

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WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW IS THE

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TIME WHERE WE SHOULD BE

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UNIFIED, REPUBLICANS AND

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DEMOCRATS AND SIMPLY SAY ENOUGH

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IS ENOUGH AND HE NEEDS TO STEP N

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DOWN.

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>> THANK YOU FOR EEJOINING US, O

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SENATOR BOOKER.

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WE KNOW THIS IS A NEWSDAY OF