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>>> THIS SUNDAY, SHOTS FIRED.

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>> GET DOWN!

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GET DOWN!

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>> FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP

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INJURED AND RUSHED OFF THE STAGE

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AT A CAMPAIGN RALLY IN

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PENNSYLVANIA AFTER AN APPARENT

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ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT.

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>> THIS EVENING WE HAD WHAT

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WE’RE CALLING AN ASSASSINATION

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ATTEMPT,

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ATTEMPT AGAINST OUR FORMER

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PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP.

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>> THE MAN BESIDE ME SUFFERED A

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GUN SHOT WOUND TO THE HEAD, WAS

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INSTANTLY KILLED.

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>> SOMEBODY GOT SHOT, LIKE, THIS

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CLOSE TO WHERE WE WERE.

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>> THE THREAT OF POLITICAL

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VIOLENCE NOW LOOMING OVER THE

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ELECTION.

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>> THERE’S NO PLACE IN AMERICA

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FOR THIS KIND OF VIOLENCE.

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IT’S SICK.

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IT’S SICK.

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EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY MUST

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CONDEMN IT.

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>> HOW WILL THE 2024 POLITICAL

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CAMPAIGN CHANGE.

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MY GUEST THIS MORNING REPUBLICAN

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CONGRESSMAN DAN MUSER OF

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PENNSYLVANIA.

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REPUBLICAN SENATOR LINDSAY

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GRAHAM OF SOUTH CAROLINA.

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BIDEN CAMPAIGN NATIONAL

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CO-CHAIR, SENATOR CHRIS COONS OF

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DELAWARE AND INDEPENDENT SENATOR

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BERNIE SANDERS OF VERMONT.

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JOINING ME FOR INSIGHT AND

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ANALYSIS ARE NBC NEWS WASHINGTON

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MANAGING EDITOR CAROL LEE.

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CHARLES BENSON FROM OUR NBC

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AFFILIATE AND THE CONVENTION

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CITY OF MILWAUKEE.

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FORMER WHITE HOUSE PRESS

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SECRETARY JEN PSAKI AND LAHNEE

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CHEN, A FELLOW AT THE HOOVER

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INSTITUTION.

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WELCOME TO SUNDAY.

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IT’S "MEET THE PRESS."

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>> FROM NBC NEWS IN WASHINGTON

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THE LONGEST-RUNNING SHOW IN

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TELEVISION HISTORY, THIS IS

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"MEET THE PRESS" WITH KRISTEN

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WELKER.

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>>> GOOD SUNDAY MORNING.

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THE NATION IS WAKING UP TO A NEW

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REALITY AFTER FORMER PRESIDENT

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DONALD TRUMP WAS INJURED IN AN

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APPARENT ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT

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THAT LEFT ONE PERSON DEAD AND

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TWO OTHERS CRITICALLY INJURED.

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THE SUSPECTED GUNMAN WAS KILLED

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BY THE SECRET SERVICE.

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HERE IS THE HORRIFYING MOMENT AS

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IT HAPPENED.

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>> TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT

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HAPPENED --

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[ SHOTS FIRED ]

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>> GET DOWN!

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GET DOWN!

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[ SHOTS FIRED ]

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>> LET ME GET MY SHOES.

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>> SIR, WE HAVE TO GET YOU --

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>> LET ME GET MY SHOES.

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>> WATCH OUT.

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WAIT.

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WAIT.

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>> THE FORMER PRESIDENT POSTED,

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QUOTE, I WAS SHOT WITH A BULLET

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THAT PIERCED THE UPPER PART OF

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MY RIGHT EAR.

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I KNEW IMMEDIATELY THAT

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SOMETHING WAS WRONG AND THAT I

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HEARD A WHIZZING SOUND.

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SHOTS AND IMMEDIATELY FELT THE

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BULLET RIPPING THROUGH THE SKIN.

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THIS VIDEO SHOWS THE BODY OF THE

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ALLEGED SHOOTER ON THE ROOF OF

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THE BUILDING JUST 150 YARDS FROM

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WHERE MR. TRUMP WAS SPEAKING.

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>> WE ARE HEARING POP, POP, POP,

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POP, POP, AND THEN EVERYBODY’S

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ON THE GROUND.

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EVERYBODY’S ON THE FLOOR.

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>> HE HAD A RIFLE.

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WE COULD CLEARLY SEE HIM WITH A

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RIFLE.

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ABSOLUTELY.

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>> IF HE HAD NOT MOVED HIS HEAD

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AT THAT NICK OF TIME IT COULD

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HAVE BEEN A LOT WORSE.

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>> THE MAN BESIDE ME SUFFERED A

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GUN SHOT WOUND TO THE HEAD, WAS

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INSTANTLY KILLED.

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I’M HONESTLY SHOCKED THIS DIDN’T

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HAPPEN EARLIER.

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>> I WAS ANTICIPATING TO BE

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ANOTHER UNBELIEVABLE NIGHT, BUT

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NOT THIS WAY.

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>> NEW YORK TIMES PHOTOGRAPHER

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DOUG MILLS CAPTURED THE MOMENT

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WHEN IT APPEARS TO BE A BULLET

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ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE IMAGE

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PASSING THE FORMER PRESIDENT’S

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EAR.

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A SPOKESMAN FOR THE SECRET

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SERVICE SAYS THE SUSPECTED

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SHOOTER FIRED MULTIPLE SHOTS

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TOWARD THE STAGE FROM AN

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ELEVATED POSITION OUTSIDE THE

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RALLY VENUE.

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OVERNIGHT FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP

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LANDING IN NEW JERSEY WALKED OFF

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HIS PLANE.

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EARLY THIS MORNING THE FBI WHICH

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IS NOW LEADING AN INVESTIGATION

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INVOLVING THE SECRET SERVICE,

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ATF, STATE AND LOCAL LAW

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ENFORCEMENT IDENTIFIED THE

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ALLEGED GUNMAN AS THOMAS MATTHEW

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CROOKS, 20 YEARS OLD, OF BETHEL

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PARK, PENNSYLVANIA.

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>> THIS EVENING WE HAD WHAT

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WE’RE CALLING AN ASSASSINATION

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ATTEMPT AGAINST OUR FORMER

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PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP.

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IT’S STILL AN ACTIVE CRIME

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SCENE, AS I MENTIONED WE HAVE A

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NUMBER OF AGENTS ON SCENE.

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WE ALSO ARE WORKING CLOSELY WITH

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OTHER FEDERAL AGENCIES OUR STATE

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PARTNERS AND LOCAL POLICE

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PARTNERS, AS WELL.

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>> PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS BRIEFED

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ON THE SHOOTING AFTER LEAVING

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CHURCH ON SATURDAY AND SPOKE

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OUT, CONDEMNING POLITICAL

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VIOLENCE.

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>> THERE’S NO PLACE IN AMERICA

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FOR THIS KIND OF VIOLENCE.

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IT’S SICK.

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IT’S SICK.

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IT’S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE

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HAVE TO UNITE THIS COUNTRY.

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WE CANNOT ALLOW DPR THIS TO BE

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HAPPENING.

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WE CANNOT CONDONE THIS.

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>>> THIS MORNING ON THE "TODAY"

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SHOW, REPUBLICAN SPEAKER MIKE

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JOHNSON ALSO WEIGHED IN.

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>> WE HAVE TO TURN THE RHETORIC

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DOWN.

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WE HAVE TO TURN THE TEMPERATURE

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DOWN IN THIS COUNTRY AND WE NEED

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LEADERS ON ALL PARTIES ON BOTH

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SIDES TO CALL THAT OUT.

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NO FIGURE IN AMERICAN HISTORY AT

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LEAST IN THE MODERN ERA SINCE

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LINCOLN WHO HAS BEEN SO VILIFIED

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AND PERSECUTED BY MEDIA AND

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HOLLYWOOD ELITES AND POLITICAL

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FIGURES AND EVEN THE LEGAL

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SYSTEM.

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WE ARE COVERING ALL OF THE

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ANGLES OF THIS DEVELOPING STORY

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AND WE BEGIN WITH NBC NEWS

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CORRESPONDENT DASHA BURNS WHO

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WAS AT THE RALLY WHEN THE

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SHOOTING HAPPENED.

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SHE JOINS US NOW FROM BUTLER,

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PENNSYLVANIA.

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DASHA, WE ARE ALSO GRATEFUL THAT

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YOU ARE SAFE.

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WALK US THROUGH WHAT HAPPENED IN

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THE VERY LATEST THERE.

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>> KRISTEN, YOU AND I AND OUR

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COLLEAGUES, UNFORTUNATELY, WE’V

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ALL COVERED SHOOTINGS AS PART OF

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THIS JOB.

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THAT’S BECOME A SADLY FAMILIAR

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ASSIGNMENT.

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WEIGH RACED TO THE SCENE OF THE

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TRAGEDY AND THE AFTERMATH AND

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WAS FAR LESS FAMILIAR AS

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WITNESSING THE MOMENTS OF THE

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TRAGEDY FIRST HAND AND THAT’S

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WHAT MY TEAM AND I EXPERIENCED

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LAST NIGHT AND I’LL TELL YOU

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FROM OUR VANTAGE POINT WHAT

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HAPPENED AND WE WERE ON THE

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PRESS RISES WHICH WERE

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POSITIONED ON THE ENTER OF THE

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VENUE AS USUAL JUST BEHIND THE

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SEATED SECTION OF THE AUDIENCE.

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WE WERE ACTUALLY FINISHING UP

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FILMING A STANDUP AS THE

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PRESIDENT BEGAN HIS SPEECH,

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AGAIN, ALL AS USUAL.

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MY PRODUCER BIANCA AND I STARTED

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TO WALK DOWN THE STAIRS FROM THE

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RISER JUST TO GRAB OUR LAPTOPS

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WHEN WE SUDDENLY HEARD THOSE

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LOUD, CRACKING POPS THAT ARE NOW

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SO FAMILIAR FROM THE VIDEO THAT

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WE WERE PLAYING FROM THE

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DEVASTATING MOMENT.

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WE INITIALLY THOUGHT IT WAS

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FIREWORKS AND SOMETIMES

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PRESIDENT EVENTS HAVE

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PYROTECHNICS AND WHEN MR. TRUMP

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STOPPED SPEAKING WE TOOK COVER

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BEHIND SOME STAGE EQUIPMENT

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THINKING IT WAS JUST A

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PRECAUTION AND WE EXPERIENCED

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THE SORT OF RAPID ROLLER COASTER

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OF EMOTION ALONGSIDE THE CROWD.

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IT WENT FROM STANDARD POLITICAL

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EVENT.

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PEOPLE WERE CHEERING, BUYING

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MERCHANDISE AND FOOD, DANCING TO

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THE SONG "YMCA" WHICH OFTEN

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COMES ON RIGHT BEFORE THE FORMER

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PRESIDENT MAKES HIS ENTRANCE.

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IT WENT FROM THAT TO CONFUSION

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AND CHAOS AS THOSE SOUNDS RANG

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OUT AND THEN FEAR SET IN WHEN WE

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REALIZED THIS COULD ACTUALLY

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BEGUN SHOTS, SOMETHING WE NEVER

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IMAGINED.

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WE WERE STILL TAKING COVER WHEN

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WE HEARD THOSE CHEERS FROM THE

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CROWD THAT YOU CAN HEAR FROM THE

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VIDEO AS THE FORMER PRESIDENT

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RAISED HIS FIST INTO THE AIR AND

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WAS TAKEN BY SECRET SERVICE.

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IN THOSE MOMENTS FOR ANYONE WHO

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WASN’T FRONT AND CENTER WHO SAW

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PEOPLE GET INJURED, ONE,

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UNFORTUNATELY, ULTIMATELY

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CLEARED.

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IT WASN’T IMMEDIATELY CLEAR TO

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US HOW DANGEROUS AND DEADLY THE

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SITUATION WAS.

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SO SOME PEOPLE IN THE CROWD BE

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GOON LEAVE THE SCENE AND OTHERS

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STUCK AROUND AND WE GOT BACK UP

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ON THE PRESS RISER, AND REUNITED

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WITH OUR CREW WHICH WAS

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THANKFULLY SAFE AND WE BEGAN

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REPORTING LIVE.

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ONE THING THAT STRUCK ME IN

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THOSE MOMENTS.

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IT WAS AFTER THAT THAT SOME

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PEOPLE IN THE CROWD STARTED TO

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COME TO THE RISERS AND THEY

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STARTED TO GET HEATED TO THE

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PRESS AND THIS STRUCK ME AS I

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WAS THINKING BACK TO THESE

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MOMENTS BECAUSE WE WERE THINKING

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ABOUT THE DIVISION AND

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POLARIZATION WHICH WAS AN

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INEVITABLE PART OF THE STORY AND

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THIS CROWD STARTED GATHERING

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AROUND THE MEDIA AND STARTED

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BLAMING THE PRESS AND SOME

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SCREAMING AT JOURNALISTS AND GET

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AGGRESSIVE.

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EMOTIONS WERE RUNNING HIGH IN

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THAT MOMENT AND IT WAS A KAY ON

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THE BEING SCENE,CHAOTIC SCENE AN

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ULTIMATELY TOLD TO LEAVE THE

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SCENE IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR LIVE

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REPORT AS SECRET SERVICE TOLD US

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THIS WAS NOW AN ACTIVE CRIME

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SCENE.

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OUR CREW HAD TO ABANDON THEIR

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GEAR.

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WE MADE OUR WAY TO THE PARKING

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LOT WHERE THERE WERE THOUSANDS

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OF CARS THAT WOULD ULTIMATELY

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TAKE HOURS TO GET OUT OF THERE

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AND THERE WAS ONLY ONE ENTRY AND

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EXIT POINT AND IT WAS A TRAFFIC

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JAM AS EVERYONE WAS COMING TO

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GRIPS WITH WHAT HAPPENED THAT WE

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SPENT HOURS SPEAKING TO

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WITNESSES.

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WE WERE EXCHANGING OUR STORIES,

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HEARING THEIR STORIES AND TRYING

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TO FILL IN THE BLANKS AND PRETTY

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QUICKLY, A PICTURE OF TOTAL

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HORROR EMERGED AS WE MET PEOPLE

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WHO WITNESSED THE TRAGIC DEATH

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OF ONE ATTENDEE, A MAN NAMED

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JOSEPH THAT I TALKED TO WAS

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STANDING NEXT TO THE GENTLEMAN

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WHO WAS KILLEDED.

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HE TOLD ME THAT MAN DIED ON

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IMPACT AND HE HELPED CARRY THE

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MAN’S BODY AWAY.

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PEOPLE DESCRIBED WATCHING THE

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FORMER PRESIDENT TURN HIS HEAD

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SLIGHTLY TO POINT TO A SCREEN

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JUST ON STAGE, JUST AS THOSE

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FIRST FEW BULLETS WERE GETTING

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FIRED AND ONE WOMAN TELLING ME

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THAT POTENTIALLY THE LETHAL SHOT

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WAS MISSED BY INCHES, MAYBE

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CENTIMETERS, AND THIS MORNING

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THE FORMER PRESIDENT GAVE

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ANOTHER UPDATE, ADDRESSING

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SUPPORTERS ON TRUTH SOCIAL

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WRITING IT WAS GOD ALONE WHO

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PREVENTED THE UNTHINKABLE FROM

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HAPPENING, AND WE WILL FEAR NOT

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AND REMAIN DEFIANT AND IT IS

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MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVER THAT WE

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STAND UNITED AND SHOW THE TRUE

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CHARACTER AS AMERICANS REMAINING

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STRONG AND DETERMINED AND NOT

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ALLOWING EVIL TO WIN.

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KRISTEN?

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>> DASHA BURNS, JUST AN EXTROERD

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NEAR WHAT YOU WITNESSED AND THAT

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COULD BE A BIT OF A PREVIEW OF

10:30.990 --> 10:32.405
WHAT WE MIGHT HEAR AT THE

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REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION

10:33.378 --> 10:35.651
AND DASHA BURNS, THANK YOU FOR

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YOUR EXTRAORDINARY WORK THERE.

10:37.486 --> 10:38.893
DON WINTER IS AN INVESTIGATIVE

10:38.904 --> 10:39.258
CORRESPONDENT.

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HE’S BEEN UP THROUGHOUT THE

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NIGHT TALKING TO LAW ENFORCEMENT

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OFFICIALS, TOM, WHAT DO WE KNOW

10:43.487 --> 10:44.306
AT THIS HOUR?

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>> CHRIS, WHAT WE KNOW AT THIS

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HOUR IS THAT THE WORD FROM LAW

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ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS WHO HAVE

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DONE THEIR OWN INDEPENDENT

10:50.028 --> 10:52.253
INVESTIGATION, FROM THE

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INVESTIGATION SO FAR ON THE

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GROUND IN PENNSYLVANIA, THAT IT

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IS UNCLEAR WHAT THIS MOTIVE

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MIGHT HAVE BEEN FROM MATTHEW

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CROOKS WHO WAS BORN IN 2003.

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HE APPEARED TO HAVE GRADUATED

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FROM HIGH SCHOOL JUST SEVERAL

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YEARS AGO.

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WE KNOW THAT BASED UPON VOTER

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REGISTRATION RECORDS IN

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PENNSYLVANIA HE REGISTERED AS A

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REPUBLICAN.

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HE ALSO DONATED $15 TO A

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DEMOCRATIC CAUSE SO THAT’S WHAT

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WE’VE SEEN THERE.

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WE CAN FIND NO CRIMINAL HISTORY

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ON THIS INDIVIDUAL, NO SIGN OF

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CIVIL LAWSUITS AND WE CHECKED

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FOR THAT BECAUSE SOMETIMES

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PEOPLE FILE SUIT AGAINST

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INDIVIDUALS AND IT HELPS GET

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INSIGHT INTO THEIR MINDSET AND

11:35.336 --> 11:37.448
FOR A 20-YEAR-OLD MALE IN

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AMERICA, HE HAS AN INCREDIBLY

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LOW ONLINE SOCIAL MEDIA

11:41.316 --> 11:41.628
PRESENCE.

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THERE ARE THESE DIFFERENT CHAT

11:43.305 --> 11:45.206
ROOMS THAT ARE OUT THERE AND

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SOME DARK CREVICES OF THE

11:46.274 --> 11:46.608
INTERNET.

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WE DON’T HAVE ALL OF THE ANSWERS

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YET AND THAT’S SOMETHING THAT

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OBVIOUSLY FEDERAL INVESTIGATORS

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AND THE FBI IN PARTICULAR WILL

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BE FOCUSED ON.

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I THINK UNDERSTANDABLY, GIVEN

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THE FACT THIS THIS SHOOTING

11:59.539 --> 12:02.272
HAPPENED AND IT WAS AN ATTEMPTED

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ASSASSINATION OF THE FORMER

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PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

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AND THE PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE, AND

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IT’S A FORMALITY AT THIS POINT,

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AS YOU WELL KNOW THAT FOLKS ARE

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FOCUSED ON, WHAT IS THE

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POLITICAL MOTIVE HERE AND IN LAW

12:14.824 --> 12:16.560
ENFORCEMENT CIRCLES THEY HAVE TO

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EXAMINE EVERYTHING FROM DID THIS

12:18.134 --> 12:19.351
PERSON HAVE A PARTICULAR

12:19.352 --> 12:21.149
INTEREST FROM TRUMP AND WERE

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THEY DRIVEN ABOUT WHAT’S BEEN

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SAID ABOUT TRUMP AND THE

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POLITICIANS AND WAS DONALD TRUMP

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NOT CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH, JUST TO

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SHOW YOU THE GAMUT OF THE

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DIFFERENT THINGS THAT THEY HAVE

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TO LOOK AT, BUT WE SHOULD NOTE

12:33.295 --> 12:35.218
THAT IT’S NOT NECESSARILY THE

12:35.229 --> 12:36.646
MOTIVE IF THERE’S A POLITICAL

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CAUSE HERE.

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IN OTHER WORDS, THERE COULD BE

12:39.035 --> 12:41.109
ANOTHER MOTIVE HERE AS WE SAW

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WITH THE ATTEMPTED ASSASSINATION

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OF RONALD REAGAN.

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THAT WAS MOTIVATED BY THE

12:46.407 --> 12:48.023
SHOOTER THERE TRYING TO IMPRESS

12:48.034 --> 12:49.828
SOMEBODY OR IMPRESS A WOMAN IN

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THAT PARTICULAR INSTANCE.

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WE HAVE TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND,

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THAT’S WHAT INVESTIGATORS ARE

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DOING AND THAT’S WHAT THEY

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SHOULD BE DOING AND THE FBI WILL

12:57.511 --> 12:59.329
JUST LOOK, THIS IS WHERE THE

12:59.340 --> 13:00.915
EVIDENCE IS AND THIS IS WHERE

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IT’S TAKEN US.

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>> TOM, SUCH IMPORTANT CONTEXT

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THERE.

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INCREDIBLE REPORTING.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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>> PRESIDENT BIDEN WILL RECEIVE

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A BRIEFING FROM HOMELAND

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SECURITY AND LAW ENFORCEMENT

13:10.541 --> 13:11.962
OFFICIALS LATER THIS MORNING.

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NBC NEWS CHIEF WHITE HOUSE

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CORRESPONDENT PETER ALEXANDER

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JOINS ME FROM THE WHITE HOUSE.

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PETER, I KNOW YOU’VE BEEN

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TALKING TO YOUR SOURCES

13:17.814 --> 13:18.510
THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT.

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WHAT’S THE VERY LATEST THERE AT

13:19.788 --> 13:20.965
THE WHITE HOUSE?

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>> KRISTEN, WE LEARNED LATE LAST

13:22.914 --> 13:24.498
NIGHT THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN AND

13:24.509 --> 13:25.689
SPORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP SPOKE

13:25.723 --> 13:26.603
HOURS AFTER THE SHOOTING

13:26.604 --> 13:26.888
YESTERDAY.

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RIGHT NOW WE DON’T HAVE ANY

13:28.737 --> 13:29.687
BETTER DETAILS ABOUT THAT

13:29.698 --> 13:30.341
CONVERSATION.

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WHEN THE SHOOTING TOOK PLACE,

13:32.029 --> 13:35.324
PRESIDENT BIDEN WAS AT MASS NEAR

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HIS HOME IN DELAWARE.

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WE ARE TOLD THAT WHEN HE LEARNED

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ABOUT THE ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT

13:40.562 --> 13:43.821
WAS WHEN HE LEFT AND WANTED TO

13:43.832 --> 13:46.574
ADDRESS THE NATION AND AMONG THE

13:46.585 --> 13:47.872
BRIEFING KIMBERLY CHEATEL, THE

13:47.883 --> 13:49.242
MOMENTLAND SECURITY SECRETARY

13:49.253 --> 13:50.512
AND ALEJANDRO MAYORKAS.

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THIS MORNING THE PRESIDENT IS AT

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THE WHITE HOUSE AFTER PUBLICLY

13:54.028 --> 13:55.188
CONDEMNING THE VIOLENCE SAYING

13:55.199 --> 13:56.915
HE IS GRATEFUL MR. TRUMP IS

13:56.926 --> 13:58.479
DOING WELL SAYING THAT COUNTRY

13:58.481 --> 13:59.497
NEEDED TO UNITE.

13:59.531 --> 14:01.393
WE SHOULD NOTE A BIDEN CAMPAIGN

14:01.404 --> 14:03.714
OFFICIAL SAYS THAT THE CAMPAIGN

14:03.725 --> 14:04.854
WAS PAUSING ALL OUTBOUND

14:04.889 --> 14:06.230
COMMUNICATIONS AND WORKING TO

14:06.241 --> 14:07.733
TAKE DOWN ITS TELEVISION ADS AS

14:07.734 --> 14:09.428
QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF

14:09.439 --> 14:10.972
THE SERIOUSNESS OF THIS MOMENT.

14:11.006 --> 14:12.499
AS YOU NOTED, THE PRESIDENT IS

14:12.510 --> 14:14.217
TO BE BRIEFED BY HIS LAW

14:14.218 --> 14:15.407
ENFORCEMENT TEAM THIS MORNING A

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SENIOR WHITE HOUSE OFFICIAL

14:16.297 --> 14:17.698
TELLING US THE REST OF THE DAY

14:17.732 --> 14:18.389
IS FLUID.

14:18.400 --> 14:20.926
SO NO INDICATION WHETHER OR NOT

14:20.928 --> 14:22.739
WE’LL HEAR PUBLICLY FROM

14:22.740 --> 14:24.102
PRESIDENT BIDEN AGAIN JUST YET.

14:24.136 --> 14:24.492
KRISTEN?

14:24.493 --> 14:26.041
>> PETER ALEXANDER FOR US AT THE

14:26.052 --> 14:26.867
WHITE HOUSE.

14:26.878 --> 14:29.169
PETER, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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>>> JOINING ME NOW IS REPUBLICAN

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CONGRESSMAN DAN MUSER OF

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PENNSYLVANIA WHO WAS SEATED IN

14:34.571 --> 14:36.750
THE FRONT ROW NEAR TRUMP AT THE

14:36.752 --> 14:38.600
RALLY LAST NIGHT WHEN THE SHOTS

14:38.611 --> 14:39.539
BROKE OUT.

14:39.550 --> 14:40.914
CONGRESSMAN, WELCOME TO "MEET

14:40.949 --> 14:41.769
THE PRESS".

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>> THANK YOU, KRISTEN.

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NICE TO BE WITH YOU.

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>> I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING

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WITH US ON WHAT IS A SOMBER

14:50.402 --> 14:51.845
COMMUNITY FOR YOU, FOR YOUR

14:51.879 --> 14:52.868
COMMUNITY AND FOR THIS ENTIRE

14:52.869 --> 14:53.402
COUNTRY.

14:53.403 --> 14:55.582
YOU OBVIOUSLY, AS I SAID, WERE

14:55.593 --> 14:56.969
IN THE FRONT ROW YESTERDAY.

14:56.980 --> 14:58.499
YOU WERE NEAR FORMER PRESIDENT

14:58.510 --> 15:00.213
TRUMP WHEN THIS ALL UNFOLDED.

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I DO WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE

15:02.066 --> 15:03.760
EVENTS THAT YOU WITNESSED, BUT

15:03.794 --> 15:06.220
FIRST, I WANT TO ASK YOU, HOW

15:06.231 --> 15:07.890
ARE YOU DOING AND HOW ARE THOSE

15:07.924 --> 15:08.756
IN YOUR COMMUNITY HOLDING UP

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TODAY?

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>> I’M FINE.

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CERTAINLY, THERE ARE A LOT OF

15:12.214 --> 15:15.817
PEOPLE THAT ARE VERY UPSET.

15:15.851 --> 15:19.324
THIS IS QUITE SHOCKING.

15:19.326 --> 15:21.754
CERTAINLY AT THE RALLY PEOPLE

15:21.755 --> 15:25.335
WERE VERY -- THERE WAS A LOT OF

15:25.346 --> 15:26.881
CONVERSATION, A LOT OF GOD

15:26.915 --> 15:28.897
BLISSES AND HOW ARE YOUS AS

15:28.908 --> 15:30.640
OPPOSED TO THINKING ABOUT

15:30.674 --> 15:31.819
THEMSELVES WHICH WAS PRETTY

15:31.830 --> 15:32.672
TOUCHING AND THROUGHOUT THE

15:32.683 --> 15:34.360
EVENING AND THIS MORNING.

15:34.362 --> 15:36.229
A LOT OF OUTREACH FROM

15:36.240 --> 15:38.569
REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES AS WELL AS

15:38.580 --> 15:39.514
DEMOCRAT COLLEAGUES.

15:39.548 --> 15:44.292
I’VE HEARD FROM BOTH SIDES WHO

15:44.303 --> 15:45.989
REALLY, REALLY FEEL TERRIBLE

15:45.991 --> 15:47.657
ABOUT THIS AND WANT TO DO

15:47.691 --> 15:49.656
EVERYTHING WE CAN TO KEEP IT

15:49.667 --> 15:50.940
FROM OCCURRING MOVING FORWARD.

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>> ABSOLUTELY.

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CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH WHAT YOU

15:54.479 --> 15:56.355
WITNESSED YESTERDAY CONGRESSMAN

15:56.357 --> 15:58.327
AS IT OCCUR WHEN THOSE SHOTS

15:58.338 --> 16:00.103
RANG OUT?

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>> DASHA, YOUR CORRESPONDENT,

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DAVE A PRETTY GOOD DESCRIPTION.

16:05.969 --> 16:07.964
PRESIDENT TRUMP CAME IN, DID THE

16:07.975 --> 16:10.061
PRE-RALLY SPEECHES AND GOT THE

16:10.095 --> 16:12.152
CROWD EXCITED AND YOU KNOW --

16:12.153 --> 16:13.856
JUST GREAT PEOPLE THERE FOR ONE

16:13.857 --> 16:16.211
REASON TO HEAR WHO THEY WANT TO

16:16.212 --> 16:18.479
BE THEIR PRESIDENT, THEIR LEADER

16:18.490 --> 16:20.586
TALK ABOUT THE GREAT THINGS THAT

16:20.597 --> 16:21.829
AMERICA SHOULD BE.

16:21.864 --> 16:23.979
PRESIDENT TRUMP DID THE PICTURES

16:23.980 --> 16:26.558
AS HE DID, HE WAS IN ENORMOUSLY

16:26.559 --> 16:27.953
GOOD SPIRITS AS HE ALWAYS TENDS

16:27.964 --> 16:28.642
TO BE.

16:28.653 --> 16:32.676
HE CAME OUT, AND IT WAS NO MORE

16:32.710 --> 16:35.940
THAN SIX OR SEVEN MINUTES AS IT

16:35.951 --> 16:39.119
WAS STATED IN HIS REMARKS WHEN

16:39.153 --> 16:40.795
THE SHOTS RANG OUT.

16:40.806 --> 16:43.046
I WAS STANDING WITH DAVE McKORM

16:43.080 --> 16:44.648
IRK, MY HOUSE COLLEAGUE MIKE

16:44.659 --> 16:46.119
KELLY AND THE COMMITTEE PERSON

16:46.153 --> 16:47.662
OF PENNSYLVANIA AND ANYWAY, A

16:47.673 --> 16:49.144
BUNCH OF PEOPLE, OF COURSE, AND

16:49.155 --> 16:51.211
THE SHOTS RANG OUT AND THE FIRST

16:51.222 --> 16:53.534
TWO, I REALLY LOOK AT DAVE, AND

16:53.568 --> 16:55.182
HE LOOKED AT ME, AND WE JUST

16:55.193 --> 16:56.011
LOOKED AROUND.

16:56.012 --> 16:57.026
WE TURNED AROUND.

16:57.037 --> 16:59.520
WE KNEW WHERE THEY WERE COMING

16:59.555 --> 17:01.481
FROM AND THEN MY EYES JUST

17:01.492 --> 17:03.205
TURNED FAST TO THE PRESIDENT,

17:03.206 --> 17:06.166
FIXATED ON HIM AND THAT’S WHEN

17:06.177 --> 17:08.593
HE WAS HIT AND HE -- HE HIT THE

17:08.604 --> 17:08.882
DECK.

17:08.893 --> 17:10.902
IT DIDN’T LOOK LIKE HE WENT DOWN

17:10.903 --> 17:12.721
FROM THE SHOT, BUT HE HIT THE

17:12.732 --> 17:15.335
DECK AND PUT HIS HAND UP TO HIS

17:15.370 --> 17:17.436
HEAD AND I WAS THINKING THE

17:17.437 --> 17:20.140
WORST, AND SO YOU GET A SURGE OF

17:20.141 --> 17:21.392
ANGER, OF FRUSTRATION, OF

17:21.393 --> 17:22.366
WANTING TO DO SOMETHING.

17:22.367 --> 17:24.728
SO WE WERE TRYING TO GET OVER

17:24.739 --> 17:28.085
THE BARRIER AND THEN, OF COURSE,

17:28.086 --> 17:30.021
THE SECRET SERVICE WAS ON IT,

17:30.032 --> 17:30.371
IMMEDIATELY.

17:30.405 --> 17:31.872
THEY DESERVE ALL KINDS OF CREDIT

17:31.873 --> 17:33.362
AND THEY SURROUNDED THE

17:33.373 --> 17:34.688
PRESIDENT AND I WILL TELL YOU

17:34.722 --> 17:35.247
THIS.

17:35.258 --> 17:37.153
IT WAS KAY ON THEIC.

17:37.187 --> 17:38.898
PEOPLE WERE UPSET AND PEOPLE

17:38.909 --> 17:41.357
WERE SCREAMING AND IT WAS

17:41.368 --> 17:42.820
CONTROLLED PARTICULARLY WHEN

17:42.821 --> 17:44.368
PRESIDENT TRUMP PUT UP HIS FIST

17:44.402 --> 17:46.096
AND LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT HE

17:46.107 --> 17:47.918
WAS OKAY, AND I THINK THAT WAS A

17:47.929 --> 17:49.716
SIGN TO EVERYONE THAT THEY WOULD

17:49.751 --> 17:50.939
BE OKAY, AS WELL.

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>> YOU KNOW, YOU SAID SOMETHING

17:53.257 --> 17:55.396
IN THE BEGINNING OF THIS

17:55.430 --> 17:56.818
CONVERSATION WHICH IS, OF

17:56.820 --> 17:59.501
COURSE, THE QUESTION BECOMES HOW

17:59.512 --> 18:01.028
TO PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING

18:01.039 --> 18:01.325
AGAIN.

18:01.336 --> 18:03.862
OBVIOUSLY, WE ARE ABOUT TO HAVE

18:03.863 --> 18:05.671
THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL

18:05.682 --> 18:07.797
CONVENTION THIS COMING WEEK, THE

18:07.831 --> 18:08.896
DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION

18:08.907 --> 18:09.956
IN AUGUST.

18:09.957 --> 18:12.885
OUR POLITICAL RHETORIC IN THIS

18:12.896 --> 18:14.912
COUNTRY, UNDOUBTEDLY, WE HAVE

18:14.913 --> 18:16.770
DISCUSSED THIS HAS GOTTEN QUITE

18:16.781 --> 18:17.610
HEATED AT TIMES.

18:17.645 --> 18:19.855
WHAT DO YOU THINK, WHAT WOULD

18:19.857 --> 18:22.039
YOU LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN,

18:22.050 --> 18:23.524
CONGRESSMAN, TO TRY TO PREVENT

18:23.525 --> 18:25.386
SOMETHING LIKE THIS FROM

18:25.420 --> 18:27.599
HAPPENING AGAIN, TO LOWER THE

18:27.610 --> 18:28.654
TEMPERATURE, QUITE FRANKLY RIGHT

18:28.655 --> 18:30.138
NOW?

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>> YEAH.

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WELL, THIS INDIVIDUAL, WE’LL GET

18:33.887 --> 18:36.966
TO THE BOTTOM OF IT AND WE DON’T

18:36.977 --> 18:39.617
KNOW IF HE HAS MENTAL ILLNESS OR

18:39.628 --> 18:41.319
WHAT HIS DISFUNCTION IS OR IF

18:41.354 --> 18:42.410
THERE WERE RED FLAGS PRIOR TO

18:42.412 --> 18:42.705
THAT.

18:42.716 --> 18:45.057
WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB IN

18:45.068 --> 18:47.599
THAT REGARD, BUT LOOK, THE

18:47.610 --> 18:48.789
OVERALL ATMOSPHERE, THE

18:48.823 --> 18:50.835
ENVIRONMENT AND THERE WAS PLENTY

18:50.836 --> 18:52.643
OF BLAME TO GO AROUND.

18:52.654 --> 18:54.708
ON THE SAME NOTE, I WAS

18:54.719 --> 18:56.466
LISTENING TO MIKE JOHNSON A

18:56.500 --> 18:58.360
LITTLE BIT EARLIER SPEAK, AND HE

18:58.371 --> 19:00.356
HAD STATED HOW THIS PRESIDENT

19:00.357 --> 19:02.914
JUST GETS VILIFIED, PRESIDENT

19:02.925 --> 19:04.341
TRUMP, I MEAN.

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THERE’S JUST FROM FASCISM TO

19:06.699 --> 19:09.778
HITLER TO DICTATOR TO -- AND

19:09.779 --> 19:11.862
FRANKLY, NONE OF IT’S TRUE.

19:11.896 --> 19:13.786
THAT’S NOT WHAT OUR

19:13.787 --> 19:15.631
CONSTITUTION’S ABOUT, THAT’S NOT

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WHAT OUR LAWS ARE ABOUT.

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SO I CAN EASILY POINT THAT OUT,

19:19.678 --> 19:21.531
BUT I’M WILLING TO STATE AT THE

19:21.542 --> 19:23.514
SAME TIME WE ALL NEED TO TAKE A

19:23.548 --> 19:24.896
RESPONSIBILITY TO COOL THINGS

19:24.897 --> 19:27.363
DOWN, TO SAY WHAT WE MEAN, BUT

19:27.374 --> 19:31.087
DON’T SAY IT MEAN, TO NOT GET

19:31.122 --> 19:33.920
PERSONAL, TO HAVE DIALOGUE

19:33.931 --> 19:37.230
RATHER THAN -- RATHER THAN

19:37.241 --> 19:39.920
ATTACKS AND -- FROM THE WORDS I

19:39.931 --> 19:41.522
GOT, I HEARD FROM PRESIDENT

19:41.533 --> 19:43.829
BIDEN AND THE WORDS I’VE GOTTEN

19:43.830 --> 19:45.543
FROM FELLOW MEMBERS AND

19:45.554 --> 19:47.613
PRIMARILY DEMOCRATS I HEARD FROM

19:47.648 --> 19:48.748
GOVERNOR JOSH SHAPIRO

19:48.750 --> 19:50.112
IMMEDIATELY AS I WAS LEAVING.

19:50.123 --> 19:52.111
HEY, WHAT HAPPENED?

19:52.146 --> 19:53.750
WHAT CAN WE DO?

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DO WE HAVE ENOUGH STATE TROOPERS

19:55.837 --> 19:57.071
WHO DID A WONDERFUL JOB, AS

19:57.072 --> 19:57.918
WELL.

19:57.929 --> 19:59.682
JUST REALLY, SINCERELY CARING

19:59.716 --> 20:02.085
ABOUT CORRECTING THIS TO THE

20:02.096 --> 20:04.467
BEST OF OUR ABILITIES.

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>> CONGRESSMAN MEUSER, THANK YOU

20:06.700 --> 20:09.155
SO MUCH, OUR THOUGHTS ARE WITH

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YOU, YOUR COMMUNITY AND

20:10.204 --> 20:11.322
OBVIOUSLY EVERYONE WHO WAS

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INJURED AND THE PRECIOUS LIFE

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THAT WAS LOST THERE YESTERDAY AT

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THAT RALLY.

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WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR

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JOINING US.

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>> THANK YOU, KRISTEN, VERY

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MUCH.

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>> THANK YOU.

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>>> WHEN WE COME BACK,

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REPUBLICAN SENATOR LINDSAY

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GRAHAM OF SOUTH CAROLINA JOINS
ME NEXT.

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(VO)
A law partner rediscovers her
grandmother’s artistry

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>>> WELCOME BACK.

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>>> WELCOME BACK.

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REPUBLICAN SENATOR LINDSAY

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GRAHAM OF SOUTH CAROLINA JOINS

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US NOW.

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SENATOR GRAHAM, WELCOME BACK TO

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"MEET THE PRESS."

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>> THANK YOU.

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>> WELL, SENATOR, YOU AND I HAVE

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BEEN TOGETHER ON MANY A SUNDAY.

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I WISH THE CIRCUMSTANCES WERE

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DIFFERENT THIS SUNDAY.

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>> YEAH.

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>> I KNOW THAT YOU’RE NOT JUST

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AN ALLY OF FORMER PRESIDENT

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TRUMP, HE IS ONE OF YOUR

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FRIENDS.

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I KNOW YOU’RE HOPING TO SPEAK TO

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HIM SOON.

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WHAT WILL YOUR MESSAGE BE ONCE

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YOU ARE ABLE TO CONNECT WITH THE

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FORMER PRESIDENT?

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>> GRATEFUL YOU WEREN’T HURT ANY

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WORSE, AND I LOVE YOU.

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YOU KNOW, WE’RE SUPPOSED TO WAKE

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UP THIS MORNING AT 8:30.

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I TALKED TO HIM THREE TIMES THIS

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WEEK.

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THERE WAS A LOT GOING ON IN THE

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WORLD.

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HE WAS EXCITED ABOUT PLAYING

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GOLF.

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HE THOUGHT HE HAD SOMETHING THAT

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COULD HELP MY SWING.

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ALL I CAN SAY IS HE’S GOT FIVE

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CHILDREN AND FIVE GRANDCHILDREN.

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HE’S A HUMAN BEING.

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THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT

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LOVE THIS MAN.

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HE’S ONE OF THE MOST STRONG

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PEOPLE I’VE EVER MET.

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HE HAS AN ABILITY TO ABSORB

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PUNISHMENT LIKE ANYBODY I’VE

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EVER MET.

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OBVIOUSLY, GOD IS NOT THROUGH

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WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP, AND I LOOK

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FORWARD TO SEEING HIM LATER THIS

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MORNING AND I’LL LET YOU KNOW

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HOW HE’S DOING, BUT FOR THE

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COUNTRY, WE PROBABLY NEED TO DO

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SOME SOUL-SEARCHING AS A NATION.

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>> WELL, I WANT TO FOLLOW UP

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WITH YOU ON THAT POINT, SENATOR.

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I CAN SEE THE EMOTION IN YOUR

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EYES AND I CAN HEAR IT IN YOUR

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VOICE.

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CAN YOU TELL US WHAT YOUR

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INITIAL REACTION WAS WHEN YOU

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WITNESSED WHAT HAPPENED, WHEN

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YOU LEARNED WHAT HAD HAPPENED,

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WHEN YOU UNDERSTOOD THAT HE

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CAME, QUITE FRANKLY, WITHIN

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INCHES, IF HIS HEAD HAD TURNED

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IN EITHER DIRECTION, THIS COULD

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BE A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION

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TODAY, SENATOR.

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>> I WISH I COULD SAY I WAS

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SURPRISED, BUT I’VE BEEN WORRIED

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ABOUT THIS FOR A VERY, VERY LONG

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TIME.

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YOU KNOW, IF HE WINS DEMOCRACY

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IS NOT GOING TO END.

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HE’S NOT A FASCIST.

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HE REPRESENTS A POINT OF VIEW

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THAT MILLIONS SHARE.

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THE RHETORIC IS WAY TOO HOT, BUT

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I WAS JUST GRATEFUL THAT HE MADE

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IT.

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I MEAN, FATE STEPPED IN, GOD --

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THE HAND OF GOD, CALL IT

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WHATEVER YOU LIKE, BUT LET’S

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DON’T FORGET THERE IS A MAN WHO

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LOST HIS LIFE BY ATTENDING A

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POLITICAL RALLY.

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HE’S DEAD.

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HIS LIFE CAVED IN.

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OTHER PEOPLE WERE HURT.

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WHO TO BLAME?

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LET’S BLAME THE SHOOTER, BUT

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LET’S ALL TRY TO DO BETTER.

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I CAN TELL YOU ONE THING ABOUT

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PRESIDENT TRUMP.

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HE IS VERY DETERMINED TO GET

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THIS COUNTRY BACK ON TRACK AND

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HIS INITIAL REACTION AFTER BEING

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SHOT WILL BE AN ICONIC MOMENT IN

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AMERICAN HISTORY, LITERALLY

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BLEEDING FROM A GUN SHOT WOUND

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HE RAISED HIS FIST, DON’T GIVE

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UP.

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KEEP GOING.

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>> THERE’S A LOT WE CAN SAY AND

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DISCUSS ABOUT POLITICAL

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RHETORIC.

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I WANT TO ASK YOU VERY

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SPECIFICALLY ABOUT SOME OF THE

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RESPONSES WE’VE SEEN AND JUST

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GET YOUR REACTION.

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SENATOR J.D. VANCE, AS YOU KNOW,

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POTENTIAL V.P. NOMINEE SAID IN

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THE WAKE OF THE SHOOTING, QUOTE,

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TODAY IS NOT JUST SOME ISOLATED

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INCIDENT.

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THE CENTRAL PREMISE OF THE BIDEN

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CAMPAIGN IS THAT PRESIDENT

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DONALD TRUMP IS AN AUTHORITARIAN

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FASCIST WHO MUST BE STOP AT ALL

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COST.

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THAT RHETORIC LED DIRECTLY TO

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PRESIDENT TRUMP’S ATTEMPTED

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ASSASSINATION.

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ANOTHER SAID, QUOTE, JOE BIDEN

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SENT THE ORDERS.

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I WANT TO GET YOUR TAKE, SENATOR

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BECAUSE YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT

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WHERE THIS COUNTRY NEEDS TO GO.

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DO YOU THINK -- DO YOU HAVE

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CONCERNS THAT THAT TYPE OF

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RHETORIC, DRAWING THOSE

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CONCLUSIONS SO IMMEDIATELY COULD

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ONLY FUEL THIS MOMENT AND THE

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TENSIONS?

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>> YEAH.

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WELL THERE’S A LOT OF

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FRUSTRATION ON OUR SIDE ABOUT

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THE WAY PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS BEEN

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TREATED, BUT I’M JUST GRATEFUL

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TODAY THAT HE’S ALIVE.

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I MOURN FOR THE MAN WHO DIDN’T

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MAKE IT, AND YOU KNOW, WE’LL

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HAVE A CHANCE HERE TO TALK

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ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT’S BEST FOR

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AMERICA, BUT LET’S JUST TODAY BE

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GRATEFUL THAT OUR FORMER

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PRESIDENT, POLITICAL NOMINEE

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SURVIVED AN ASSASSINATION

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ATTEMPT AND ALL TRY TO DO BETTER

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HERE.

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I DON’T -- I DON’T WANT TO -- I

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DON’T WANT TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD

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RIGHT NOW.

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>> FAIR ENOUGH, SENATOR.

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I DO WANT TO ASK YOU, BECAUSE

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YOU, MYSELF, SO MANY OTHERS ARE

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ABOUT TO HEAD TO MILWAUKEE FOR

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THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL

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CONVENTION WHERE DONALD TRUMP

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WILL OFFICIALLY BECOME THE

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REPUBLICAN AM IN ME, AND HERE WE

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ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS 2024

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ELECTION CYCLE.

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HOW DO YOU THINK THIS MOMENT,

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THIS HORRIFIC ACT OF POLITICAL

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VIOLENCE, HOW WILL THIS IMPACT

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THE CAMPAIGN MORE BROADLY?

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>> YOU KNOW, IT’S VERY HARD TO

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SAY.

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PRESIDENT TRUMP, I’LL TALK TO

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HIM LATER IN THE DAYS,

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DETERMINED TO STAY ON SCHEDULE.

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HE HAS YET TO PICK A VICE

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PRESIDENT AND THAT’S AN

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IMPORTANT PICK.

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HE WANTS SOMEBODY THAT IS READ

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OWE DAY ONE THAT CAN HELP HIM

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WIN, THAT CAN GROW THE MAP.

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I THINK THE REPUBLICAN BASE

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ADORES PRESIDENT TRUMP.

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THERE WILL BE A LOT OF LOVE COME

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HIS WAY, BUT I’M GLAD IT SEE MY

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DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES ARE SAYING

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REALLY GOOD THINGS AND YOU KNOW,

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THIS IS A MOMENT WHERE AMERICA’S

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BEEN TRAUMATIZED AND IT’S GOOD

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TO SEE.

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I’M GLAD PRESIDENT BIDEN CALLED

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HIM.

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THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF TIME TO

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TALK ABOUT POLITICS, BUT TODAY

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WE ALL JUST NEED TO BE GRATEFUL

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AND MINDFUL OF HOW DANGEROUS.

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HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN?

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HOW COULD SOMEBODY GET WITHIN

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130 YARDS OF THE PRESIDENT WITH

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A RIFLE?

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HIS SECRET SERVICE TEAM AROUND

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HIM, HIS PERSONAL TEAM ARE GREAT

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AMERICANS WHO ARE VERY BRAVE,

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BUT WHEN I THOUGHT OF WHEN HE

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GOT UP AND RAISED HIS FIST

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BLEEDING WAS TEDDY ROOSEVELT.

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THIS WAS THE TOUGHEST GUY I

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THINK I’VE EVER MET.

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HE’S THE MODERN VERSION OF TEDDY

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ROOSEVELT, AND IT’S JUST AN

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AMAZING THING TO BE HIS FRIEND

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AND IN HIS ORBIT, AND I LOOK

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FORWARD TO SEEING HIM HERE SOON.

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>> WELL, SENATOR LINDSAY GRAHAM,

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WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR

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JOINING US AGAIN.

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OUR THOUGHTS ARE WITH EVERYONE

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WERE INJURED AND AS YOU SO

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RIGHTFULLY POINTED OUT, THE LIFE

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THAT WAS LOST YESTERDAY THAT WE

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MOURN AS A NATION FOR.

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SO THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR

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COMMENTS THIS MORNING.

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WE APPRECIATE IT.

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>>> WHEN WE COME BACK, I WILL

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SPEAK WITH INDEPENDENT SENATOR
RNIE SANDERSBE

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>>> WELCOME BACK.

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>>> WELCOME BACK.

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INDEPENDENT SENATOR BERNIE

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SANDERS OF VERMONT JOINS ME NOW.

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SENATOR SANDERS, WELCOME BACK TO

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"MEET THE PRESS."

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>> THANK YOU.

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>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE ON

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THIS SOMBER SUNDAY, SENATOR.

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I’M WONDERING IF YOU CAN GIVE US

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YOUR REACTION TO THE EVENTS THAT

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UNFOLDED IN PENNSYLVANIA

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YESTERDAY, AND WHAT YOU THINK

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NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN THIS COUNTRY

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TO PREVENT THIS HORRIFIC,

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COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE ACT OF

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POLITICAL VIOLENCE FROM EVER

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HAPPENING AGAIN?

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>> KRISTEN, THANKS VERY MUCH FOR

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ALLOWING ME TO BE WITH YOU

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TODAY.

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FIRST THOUGHT I THINK EVERYBODY

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IN THIS COUNT RENO MATTER WHATRY

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THEIR POLITICAL VIEWS, WISHES

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PRESIDENT TRUMP A RAPID AND

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SPEEDY RECOVERY AND MOURNS THE

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LOSS OF THOSE THAT ARE WOUNDED

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AND UNDERSTANDS THAT POLITICAL

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VIOLENCE OF ANY KIND OR SHAPE OR

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FORM IS UNACCEPTABLE, IT IS

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UN-AMERICAN, AND WE HAVE TO PUT

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AN END TO IT.

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I THINK IN THIS DRAMATIC MOMENT,

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IT’S TIME FOR ALL OF US TO TAKE

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A DEEP BREATH, REMEMBER WHAT

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THIS COUNTRY IS ABOUT AND WHAT

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POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS ARE ABOUT

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AND THEY’RE ABOUT SERIOUS

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DISCUSSIONS, OF SERIOUS IDEAS AS

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TO HOW WE ADDRESS THESE SERIOUS

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PROBLEMS FACING THIS COUNTRY.

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SO LET’S USE THIS MOMENT, IF

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THERE’S ANY SILVER LINING IN

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THIS TRAGEDY, IT’S TO FIGURE OUT

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HOW WE GO FORWARD PEACEFULLY,

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CONSTRUCTIVELY AND

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INTELLIGENTLY.

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>> ABSOLUTELY, SENATOR.

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YOU, OBVIOUSLY, HAVE BEEN

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IMPACTED BY POLITICAL VIOLENCE

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YOURSELF IN 2017.

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THAT HORRIBLE MOMENT WHEN

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REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN STEVE

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SCALISE WAS SHOT AT BASEBALL

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PRACTICE.

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YOU CAME OUT AND FORCEFULLY

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DENOUNCED WHAT HAD HAPPENED UPON

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LEARNING THAT THE SUSPECTED

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SHOOTER HAD BEEN A VOLUNTEER FOR

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YOUR CAMPAIGN.

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HOW DOES THAT EXPERIENCE INFORM

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HOW YOU THINK THE COUNTRY CAN

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MOVE FORWARD RIGHT NOW?

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>> WELL, LET ME ALSO SAY THAT A

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COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO MY OFFICE

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RIGHT HERE IN BURLINGTON,

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VERMONT, I WAS NOT THERE AT THE

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MOMENT, BUT THERE WERE SEVEN

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STAFF MEMBERS THERE WAS ALMOST

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BURNED DOWN BY SOMEBODY WHO IS

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IN JAIL RIGHT NOW.

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SEVEN PEOPLE COULD HAVE BEEN

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BURNED ALIVE, SO, YEAH, I AM

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FAMILIAR WITH POLITICAL VIOLENCE

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IN ALL ITS FORMS.

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THE BOTTOM LINE IS WHAT WE NEED

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AS A NATION, WHAT A DEMOCRACY IS

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ABOUT IS NOT RADICAL RHETORIC.

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WHAT IT IS ABOUT IS A SERIOUS

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DISCUSSION OF WHERE WE ARE AS A

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NATION AND HOW WE GO FORWARD.

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AND IN A CERTAIN WAY, KRISTEN,

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POLITICS SHOULD BE KIND OF

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BORING, YOU KNOW?

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OUR HEALTH CARE SYSTEM IS

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DISFUNKAL.

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HOW DO WE FIX IT?

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>> IT’S KIND OF A BORING

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DISCUSSION, BUT WE NEED A HEALTH

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CARE SYSTEM THAT GUARANTEES

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HEALTH CARE FOR ALL PEOPLE AND

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WE HAVE MASSIVE INCOME AND

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WEALTH INEQUALITY.

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MAYBE A BORING DISCUSSION, AND

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HALF OF PEOPLE IN AMERICAN

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SOCIETY, SO WHAT WE’VE GOT TO

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SEE IS SERIOUS DISCUSSION OF

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SERIOUS ISSUES AND NOT THIS KIND

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OF HARSH RHETORIC THAT WE HAVE

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HEARD FOR THE LAST NUMBER OF

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YEARS.

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>> SENATOR, YOU KNOW, BEFORE ALL

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OF THIS HAD HAPPENED I INVITED

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YOU TO COME ON ABOUT YOUR OP ED

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AND YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THE 2024

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CAMPAIGN.

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OBVIOUSLY, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT

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OF DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER

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PRESIDENT BIDEN SHOULD PASS THE

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TORCH, WHETHER HE SHOULD BE THE

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STANDARD BEARER.

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IN YOUR OP-ED YOU SAY ENOUGH OF

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THAT DISCUSSION.

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IT’S TIME TO PIT THEUT THE DIVIS

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TO REST ABOUT WHETHER PRESIDENT

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BIDEN SHOULD BE THE NOMINEE.

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I WONDER IF YOU THINK THIS

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MOMENT WILL IMPACT THAT DEBATE

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AND IF SO, HOW?

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>> NO, I DON’T.

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LOOK, I DON’T.

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I THINK PRESIDENT BIDEN IS THE

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STRONGEST CANDIDATE THE

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DEMOCRATS HAVE.

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I THINK HE HAS A VERY, VERY

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EFFECTIVE RECORD THAT HE CAN RUN

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ON.

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WE ARE FINALLY LOWERING THE COST

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OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS AND WE ARE

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REBUILDING OUR CRUMBLING

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INFRASTRUCTURE FINALLY, AND WE

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ARE BEGINNING TO DEAL WITH THE

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EXISTENTIAL THREAT OF CLIMATE

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CHANGE, AND WE’VE BEEN TRYING TO

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DO OUR BEST TO PROTECT THE

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WOMAN’S RIGHT TO CONTROL HER OWN

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BODY.

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IT’S A STRONG RECORD, BUT WHAT I

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HAVE BEEN CRITICAL OF AND I’M

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SEEING GOOD THINGS AND I’VE SEEN

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PRESIDENT BIDEN SPEAK ON FRIDAY

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NIGHT AND WAS REALLY GOOD.

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I THINK HE TALKED ABOUT WHAT HE

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WANTS TO DO WITH A DEMOCRATIC

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CONGRESS IN THE FIRST HUNDRED

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DAYS OF HIS ADMINISTRATION, AND

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YOU KNOW, WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT

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EXPANDING SOCIAL SECURITY,

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KRISTEN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HALF

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OF OUR SENIORS IN THIS COUNTRY

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ARE LIVING ON LESS THAN $30,000

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A YEAR.

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WE HAVE TO IMPROVE BENEFITS AND

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WE DO THAT BY LIFTING THE CAP

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AND WE HAVE MILLIONS OF SENIORS

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WHO CAN’T AFFORD TO GO TO A

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DENTIST AND WE HAVE WORKERS

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UNABLE TO JOIN A UNION, WE HAVE

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TO RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE WHICH

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IS NOW 7.25 AN HOUR TO MINIMUM

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WAGE.

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IF HE CONTINUES TO TALK ABOUT

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THAT I THINK HE GETS RE-ELECTED.

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>> ALL RIGHT.

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SENATOR SANDERS, YOU SAID

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SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT TODAY THAT

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OUR POLITICS, IS YOUR HOPE

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SHOULD BE BORING AGAIN.

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HERE’S TO THAT HAPPENING.

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I THINK EVERYONE, NO MATTER WHAT

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THEIR POLITICAL PERSPECTIVES CAN

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AGREE TO THAT THIS MORNING.

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SENATOR SANDERS, THANK YOU VERY

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MUCH FOR YOUR PERSPECTIVE.

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I REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

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>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

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APPRECIATE IT.

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>> NOW I WANT TO BRING IN

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DEMOCRATIC SENATOR CHRIS COONS

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OF DELAWARE, A BIDEN CAMPAIGN

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CO-CHAIR, WELCOME BACK TO "MEET

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THE PRESS".

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>> THANK YOU, KRISTEN, IT’S GOOD

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TO BE ON WITH YOU ON THIS SOMBER

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MORNING.

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>> IT IS REALLY GREAT TO HAVE

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YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON THIS MORNING

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EVEN THOUGH IT IS DIFFICULT FOR

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EVERYONE.

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WE HEARD THE FORCEFUL,

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FULL-THROATED CONDEMNATION BY

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PRESIDENT BIDEN ABOUT THIS

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POLITICAL VIOLENCE SAYING IT

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CANNOT BE TOLERATED.

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THIS HAS TO END.

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WHAT DO YOU THINK NEEDS TO

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HAPPEN MOVING FORWARD AND HOW

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MIGHT THIS HORRIFIC MOMENT

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IMPACT THE 2024 CAMPAIGN?

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>> WELL, KRISTEN, THERE HAVE

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BEEN TOO MANY CLOSE CALLS IN THE

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TIME THAT I’VE BEEN IN CONGRESS,

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AS YOU REFERENCED EARLIER THERE

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WAS THE TRAGIC DAY WHEN STEVE

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SCALISE WAS SHOT, MY CLOSE

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FRIEND JEFF FLAKE AND THE

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CONSERVATIVE CONGRESSMAN CAME

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BACK TO THE CAPITOL AND I’LL

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NEVER FORGET STANDING WITH HIM

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AND PRAYING WITH HIM AS HE WAS

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IN HIS BASEBALL UNIFORM AND

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SPATTERED WITH THE BLOOD OF

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CONGRESSMAN SCALISE AND

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CONGRESSWOMAN GIFFORDS, IS AND

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WAS A CLOSE FRIEND AND WAS SHOT

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IN THE HEAD IN A POLITICAL EVENT

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AND SPEAKER PELOSI’S HUSBAND

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PAUL WAS BRUTALLY BEATEN AND

33:57.018 --> 33:59.724
HOSPITALIZED IN AN ATTEMPT AT

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ATTACKING HER AND LAST NIGHT,

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SHOCKING EVENT.

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BY THE GRACE OF GOD, NOT A

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TRAGEDY.

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WE WOULD BE IN A VERY DIFFERENT

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PLACE THIS MORNING IF THERE HAD

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BEEN A DIFFERENT OUTCOME.

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SO, FIRST, PRESIDENT BIDEN DID

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LAST NIGHT AS HE SO OFTEN DOES,

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THE THINGS THAT I MOST HOPED THE

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PRESIDENT WOULD DO.

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HE WAS AT CHURCH AND WAS

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BRIEFED.

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HE CALLED FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP

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TO WISH HIM A FULL AND SPEEDY

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RECOVERY.

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HE WENT ON NATIONAL TELEVISION

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TO DENOUNCE POLITICAL VIOLENCE

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AND URGES TO COME TOGETHER.

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HE’S PULLED DOWN CAMPAIGN ADS,

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AND AS YOU HEARD FROM

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CONGRESSMAN MEUSER AND FROM

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SENATOR GRAHAM AND SENATOR

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SANDERS, ALL OF US ARE REACHING

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OUT TO EACH OTHER IN CONGRESS.

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AS YOU KNOW, I’M AN ACTIVE

34:43.777 --> 34:45.524
MEMBER OF OUR SENATORIAL PRAYER

34:45.557 --> 34:47.625
GROUP THAT TRIES TO NOT JUST

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LOWER THE TEMPERATURE, BUT TO BE

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ROLE MODELS TO EACH OTHER OF HOW

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TO RESPECT EACH OTHER AS PEOPLE,

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HOW TO CARRY OUT THE VISION THAT

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PRESIDENT BIDEN SHARED IN HIS

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INAUGURAL ADDRESS THAT WE WOULD

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SEE EACH OTHER NOT AS ENEMIES,

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BUT AS POLITICAL OPPONENTS AS

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DIFFERENT VIEWS AND WE WOULD

35:07.341 --> 35:09.199
SPEAK TOWARD EACH OTHER AND ACT

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TOWARD EACH OTHER IN WAYS THAT

35:11.058 --> 35:13.285
ARE MORE RESPECTFUL AND MORE

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SUPPORTIVE AND THAT’S MY PRAYER

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FOR THE NATION THIS MORNING.

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KRISTEN.

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>> AS YOU KNOW, THE REPUBLICAN

35:17.968 --> 35:19.408
NATIONAL CONVENTION GETS UNDER

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WAY ON MONDAY AND THE DEMOCRATIC

35:21.236 --> 35:22.563
NATIONAL CONVENTION GETS UNDER

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WAY IN AUGUST.

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WHAT CONCERNS DO YOU HAVE NOT

35:24.960 --> 35:27.003
ONLY IN TERMS OF THE RHETORIC IN

35:27.014 --> 35:28.723
THIS COUNTRY, BUT FROM THE

35:28.724 --> 35:30.993
SECURITY OF BOTH OF THOSE EVENTS

35:30.994 --> 35:34.557
AS WE PREPARE TO HEAD INTO THIS

35:34.568 --> 35:36.802
INCREDIBLY BUSY SUMMER SEASON?

35:36.803 --> 35:39.054
>> LOOK, I AM SO GRATEFUL FOR

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THE SERVICE OF THE STATE

35:41.271 --> 35:43.589
TROOPERS AND THE SECRET SERVICE

35:43.600 --> 35:44.895
WHO PROTECTED PRESIDENT TRUMP

35:44.906 --> 35:45.639
LAST NIGHT.

35:45.650 --> 35:47.651
SO REGRETFUL FOR THE LOSS OF

35:47.662 --> 35:50.181
LIFE AT A POLITICAL RALLY AND AS

35:50.192 --> 35:52.783
YOU PUT IT, WE NEED TO BE MORE

35:52.794 --> 35:55.648
CONCERNED AND MORE DILIGENT THAN

35:55.659 --> 35:57.604
EVER IN ENSURING THAT OUR TWO

35:57.605 --> 35:59.510
CONVENTIONS AND THE REST OF THIS

35:59.545 --> 36:00.879
PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN COMES OFF

36:00.881 --> 36:02.042
SAFELY AND SECURELY.

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WE WENT THROUGH AS A NATION OF A

36:05.897 --> 36:07.417
PERIOD OF POLITICAL VIOLENCE IN

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THE LATE ’60s.

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I WAS A HIGH SCHOOL SENIOR WHEN

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THERE WAS AN ASSASSINATION

36:11.971 --> 36:13.526
ATTEMPT IN PRESIDENT REAGAN’S

36:13.528 --> 36:16.569
LIFE, AND AS I MENTIONED THERE

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WERE TWO RELATIVELY RECENT,

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VENTS AND THERE HAS TO BE

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RHETORIC AND TONE.

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I URGE FOLKS TO GET OFF OF

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SOCIAL MEDIA TODAY AND TAKE SOME

36:25.741 --> 36:27.083
TIME WITH YOUR FAMILY AND

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REFLECT ON WHO WE ARE AS A

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NATION AND WHO WE WANT TO BE.

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PART OF THE REASON WHY I ADMIRE

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AND SUPPORT JOE BIDEN IS HIS

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TONE AND HIS LEADERSHIP AS

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PRESIDENT HAS BEEN GEARED TOWARD

36:36.755 --> 36:38.933
TRYING TO BRING US TOGETHER AND

36:38.944 --> 36:41.025
AS YOU HEARD FROM MY FRIEND AND

36:41.027 --> 36:42.491
COLLEAGUE SENATOR GRAHAM, WE

36:42.525 --> 36:44.972
HAVE FOLKS WHO FEEL STRONGLY AND

36:44.973 --> 36:46.841
DEEPLY AND POSITIVELY ABOUT BOTH

36:46.852 --> 36:47.558
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES.

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WE NEED TO GET THROUGH BOTH OF

36:49.872 --> 36:52.415
THESE CONVENTIONS WITH A MORE

36:52.416 --> 36:54.305
RESPECTFUL AND CONSTRUCTIVE TONE

36:54.316 --> 36:56.048
AND RECOGNIZE AS SENATOR SANDERS

36:56.059 --> 36:57.799
SAID, THAT WHILE WE HAVE HUGE

36:57.810 --> 36:59.995
ISSUES AT STAKE IN THIS

36:59.997 --> 37:01.770
ELECTION, THEY NEED TO BE MORE

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BORING AND LESS TROUBLING.

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>> ALL RIGHT.

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WE’LL LEAVE IT ON THAT POWERFUL

37:05.688 --> 37:06.001
NOTE.

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SENATOR COONS, THANK YOU SO MUCH

37:07.562 --> 37:09.443
FOR JOINING US TODAY.

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WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

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>>> AND WHEN WE COME BACK WE’LL

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HAVE THE VERY LATEST REACTION

37:15.833 --> 37:17.182
FROM INSIDE OF FORMER PRESIDENT

37:17.183 --> 37:18.157
TRUMP’S CAMPAIGN AHEAD OF THE
REPUBLICAN N

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>>> WELCOME BACK.

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>>> WELCOME BACK.

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THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL

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CONVENTION GETS UNDER WAY

37:29.237 --> 37:30.960
TOMORROW AND FORMER PRESIDENT

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TRUMP WILL OFFICIALLY BECOME THE

37:33.074 --> 37:34.483
REPUBLICAN PARTY’S NOMINEE.

37:34.494 --> 37:36.243
NBC NEWS SENIOR CAPITOL HILL

37:36.244 --> 37:37.475
CORRESPONDENT GARRETT HAAKE IS

37:37.476 --> 37:39.196
COVERING THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND

37:39.231 --> 37:40.012
JOINS ME NOW.

37:40.023 --> 37:42.381
GARRETT, HOW WILL ALL OF THIS

37:42.392 --> 37:43.871
IMPACT THE CONVENTION?

37:43.873 --> 37:45.905
>> WELL, KRISTEN, IN THE SHORT

37:45.907 --> 37:47.249
TERM THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN IS

37:47.284 --> 37:49.091
URGING ITS EMPLOYEES TO STAY

37:49.092 --> 37:50.653
HOME TODAY, AND NOT GO IN TO

37:50.664 --> 37:51.971
WORK FROM THEIR OFFICE AND

37:51.973 --> 37:53.377
THEY’RE RAMPING UP SECURITY AS

37:53.388 --> 37:54.529
THEY WORRY ABOUT WHAT MIGHT

37:54.563 --> 37:56.184
HAPPEN NEXT IN ALL OF THIS, BUT

37:56.185 --> 37:57.562
THE MESSAGE FROM THE TRUMP

37:57.573 --> 37:59.678
CAMPAIGN AND INDEED FROM DONALD

37:59.689 --> 38:00.691
TRUMP HIMSELF HAS BEEN

38:00.702 --> 38:02.163
ESSENTIALLY THAT THE SHOW MUST

38:02.174 --> 38:04.107
GO ON AND THEY INTEND TO BEGIN

38:04.118 --> 38:04.907
THE CONVENTION TOMORROW AS

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PLANNED.

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THE FOUR DAYS OF EVENTS, I AM

38:08.826 --> 38:10.438
TOLD BY A SENIOR OFFICIAL

38:10.439 --> 38:12.129
INVOLVED BY MR. PLANNING WON’T

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CHANGE STRUCTURALLY.

38:13.048 --> 38:14.604
BROADLY SPEAKING, THE PLAN THAT

38:14.605 --> 38:15.886
WAS IN PLACE SATURDAY AFTERNOON

38:15.887 --> 38:18.170
IS STILL THE PLAN FOR WHAT WE

38:18.171 --> 38:19.794
WILL SEE AT THIS CONVENTION

38:19.805 --> 38:21.728
INCLUDING THEIR AS YET SECRET

38:21.729 --> 38:23.085
PLAN TO ANNOUNCE DONALD TRUMP’S

38:23.120 --> 38:23.818
RUNNING MATE.

38:23.819 --> 38:25.421
THAT SAID, THIS OFFICIAL SAID

38:25.432 --> 38:27.576
AND WE KNOW THIS IS TRUE, THAT

38:27.577 --> 38:29.168
THE EVENTS OF LAST NIGHT WILL

38:29.169 --> 38:30.841
CHANGE THE TONE AND TENOR OF

38:30.852 --> 38:31.707
THIS CONVENTION.

38:31.718 --> 38:33.510
WE WILL SEE MORE EMOTIONAL

38:33.521 --> 38:36.079
RESONANCE, AND I THINK YOU WILL

38:36.113 --> 38:38.223
SEE SOME OF WHAT YOU HEARD FROM

38:38.234 --> 38:40.061
SENATOR GRAHAM AND ILLUSIONS

38:40.095 --> 38:41.407
FROM THE TEDDY ROOSEVELT-LIKE

38:41.418 --> 38:43.284
FIGURE AND DISCUSSIONS OF THE

38:43.318 --> 38:44.665
PHOTO AS ICONIC.

38:44.666 --> 38:47.018
THIS IS SOMEONE WHO HAS BUILT

38:47.029 --> 38:48.164
THEIR ENTIRE POLITICAL IDENTITY

38:48.165 --> 38:49.493
AS BEING A FIGHTER AND TOUGHER

38:49.504 --> 38:51.393
THAN THE OTHER GUY, AND I EXPECT

38:51.404 --> 38:52.632
A LOT OF THAT GOING FORWARD IN

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MILWAUKEE.

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>> I ANTICIPATE WE WILL, AND I

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WILL SEE YOU THERE, GARRETT

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HAAKE, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR

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YOUR GREAT REPORTING.

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WE APPRECIATE IT.

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>>> WHEN WE COME BACK, HOW WILL

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THE ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT

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AGAINST DONALD TRUMP CHANGE THE

39:05.434 --> 39:06.100
2024 CAMPAIGN?
OUR PANEL IS NEXT.

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>>> WELCOME BACK.

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>>> WELCOME BACK.

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THE PANEL IS HERE.

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NBC NEWS WASHINGTON MANAGING

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EDITOR, CAROL LEE.

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CHARLES BENSON, ANCHOR AND CHIEF

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POLITICAL REPORTER OF OUR NBC

39:27.223 --> 39:28.480
STATION WTMJ IN MILWAUKEE.

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FORMER WHITE HOUSE PRESS

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SECRETARY JEN PSAKI, HOST OF

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"INSIDE WITH JEN PSAKI," AND

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LAHNEE CHEN, FELLOW AT THE

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HOOVER INSTITUTION AT STANFORD,

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UNIVERSITY.

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THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU FOR

39:40.984 --> 39:42.574
BEING HERE ON WHAT WE CONTINUE

39:42.575 --> 39:44.031
TO SAY THIS THROUGHOUT THE

39:44.066 --> 39:46.087
MORNING, IT IS A HEAVY MORNING

39:46.098 --> 39:47.259
FOR OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY.

39:47.293 --> 39:48.872
CAROL, I WANT TO START WITH YOU.

39:48.883 --> 39:50.150
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STRUCK ME

39:50.184 --> 39:51.638
ABOUT THE CONVERSATIONS THAT

39:51.639 --> 39:52.801
WE’VE BEEN HAVING THROUGHOUT THE

39:52.812 --> 39:54.299
MORNING IS THAT EVERYONE, ALL OF

39:54.310 --> 39:56.463
THE GUESTS WHO WE JUST SPOKE TO

39:56.496 --> 39:58.249
HAD A VERY SIMILAR MESSAGE THAT

39:58.260 --> 40:00.024
THIS HAS TO STOP, THIS CAN NEVER

40:00.026 --> 40:01.858
HAPPEN AGAIN AND THAT THE

40:01.869 --> 40:04.047
COUNTRY NEEDS TO FIND A WAY TO

40:04.082 --> 40:05.152
LOWER THE TEMPERATURE ON OUR

40:05.154 --> 40:05.737
POLITICS.

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>> IT WAS REALLY STRIKING, THE

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ONE THING THAT EVERYONE AGREED

40:09.874 --> 40:11.192
ON IN YOUR INTERVIEW IS

40:11.203 --> 40:12.579
REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS THAT

40:12.590 --> 40:14.761
THIS IS A HORRIFIC MOMENT IN THE

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COUNTRY’S HISTORY, AND HOW DOES

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THE COUNTRY MOVE FORWARD?

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AND YOU HEARD SENATOR GRAHAM

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THERE SAYING THAT THERE NEEDED

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TO BE SOUL-SEARCHING IN THE

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NATION.

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YOU HEARD SENATOR COONS SAY THAT

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THIS WAS TIME TO TAKE THE TONE

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DOWN IN OUR POLITICS, AND I

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THINK THE QUESTION IS HOW LONG

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THAT LASTS, AND WHETHER THE

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COUNTRY IS READY TO DO THAT

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BECAUSE THIS IS ALL PLAYING OUT

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AGAINST THE BACKDROP OF A

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POLITICAL CAMPAIGN IN FRONT OF

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OF A DEEPLY DIVIDED COUNTRY.

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>> I THINK YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY

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RIGHT.

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THAT IS THE QUESTION AND JEN, IN

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FACT, WE’VE ALREADY SEEN THE

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FINGER-POINTING BEGIN.

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SOME PEOPLE EVEN BLAMING

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PRESIDENT BIDEN.

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WE HEARD THAT VERY FORCEFUL

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CONDEMNATION BY PRESIDENT BIDEN

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OF WHAT HAPPENED.

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AS SOMEONE WHO USED TO WORK WITH

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THE PRESIDENT, WHAT ARE YOU

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ANTICIPATING IN TERMS OF -- HE’S

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OBVIOUSLY PULLED HIS POLITICAL

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ADS AND AS CAROL SAID HOW LONG

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DOES THIS MOMENT LAST AND HOW DO

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YOU THINK HE SEES HIS ROLE RIGHT

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NOW?

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>> I MEAN, I THINK HIS ROLE --

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I’M BETTING THAT HOW HE

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RESPONDED WAS AS A HUMAN BEING

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WHICH IS HOW WE JUST SAW LINDSAY

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GRAHAM AT MOMENTS DURING THAT

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INTERVIEW AND SENATOR SANDERS

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AND SENATOR COONS RESPOND.

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THAT’S HOW EVERYONE SHOULD BE

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RESPONDED AND FOR EVERYONE WHO

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HAS A MRIT PLATFORM AND YOU ARE

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FEEDING INTO THE DANGER AND MORE

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LIKELY THERE’S RETALIATION.

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I’M SCARED FOR JOURNALISTS.

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I’M SCARED FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE

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PUBLIC PLATFORMS OF ALL PARTIES

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AND THAT’S HOW PEOPLE SHOULD

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FEEL.

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SO FOR PRESIDENT BIDEN, SENATOR

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COONS MENTIONED HE WAS IN

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CHURCH.

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HE’S SOMEONE THAT’S VERY

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PRAYERFUL AND SOMEONE WHO

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ATTENDS CHURCH AND HE PROBABLY

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IS RELYING ON THAT, AND IN THIS

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MOMENT HIS INSTINCT WOULD BE NOT

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TO BE POLITICAL AND YOU JUST

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TAKE IT DAY BY DAY.

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THAT’S WHERE HE WOULD BE.

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HE HAS A HUGE INTERVIEW TOMORROW

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AND THE MOMENT THERE IS NOT TO

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TALK ABOUT THE POLITICAL PATH

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FORWARD.

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IT IS TO BE A HEALER AND TO

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LOWER THE RHETORIC AND THE TENOR

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AND THE TENSION IN THE COUNTRY.

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>> IT IS FASCINATING.

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EVERY CONVERSATION WILL BE

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DIFFERENT INCLUDING THAT

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INTERVIEW TOMORROW.

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LAHNEE, FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP

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RELEASED A STATEMENT ON HIS

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TRUTH SOCIAL ACCOUNT CALLING ON

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THE COUNTRY TO BE UNITED.

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HE OBVIOUSLY HAS A POWERFUL ROLE

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TO PLAY IN THIS MOMENT, TOO,

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EVEN AS HE RECOVERS AND AS

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EVERYONE IS WISHING HIM A FULL

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AND QUICK RECOVERY.

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>> ALL POLITICAL LEADERS HAVE AN

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IMPORTANT ROLE TO PLAY ON THE

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NIGHT ABRAHAM LINCOLN WAS SHOT

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HE WORE A JACKET AND INSCRIBED

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IN THAT JACKET WAS THE PHRASE,

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ONE COUNTRY, ONE DESTINY, AND

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NEVER HAS THAT BEEN MORE TRUE

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THAN THIS MORNING.

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WE ARE ONE COUNTRY AND ONE

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DESTINY AND THE NOTION THAT WE

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TALK ABOUT HOW DIVIDED WE’VE

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BEEN, WE HAVE BEEN VERY DIVIDED

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AND THE RHETORIC HAS BEEN SHOT,

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BUT WE CAN GO IN ONE OF TWO

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DIRECTIONS NOW AS A COUNTRY.

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WE CAN DOUBLE DOWN ON THAT

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DIVISION AND INCREASE THE

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RHETORIC AND INCREASE THE HEAT

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AND MAKE IT MORE CHALLENGING FOR

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US TO HAVE A REAL DISCUSSION AS

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SENATOR SANDERS SAID ABOUT THE

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ISSUES, OR WE CAN MOVE IN THE

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DIRECTION TO COME TOGETHER AND

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DECIDE WE WANT TO SOLVE SOME

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PROBLEMS, AND I THINK THAT

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LEADERS WHETHER IT’S FORMER

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PRESIDENT BIDEN OR FORMER

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PRESIDENT TRUMP EVERYONE YOU’VE

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HAD ON THE SHOW TODAY HAS

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MODELED THE RIGHT TONE WE TAKE

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ON THE POLITICS IN CIVILITY AND

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LET’S COME TOGETHER TO ADDRESS

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THESE ISSUES AND I HOPE THAT’S

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WHERE WE GO.

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>> EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE

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REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION

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NEXT WEEK AND THE CONTEXT OF

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TONE.

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TALK A LITTLE -- THERE’S SO MUCH

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EXCITEMENT IN THE CITY AND

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OBVIOUSLY NOW, A SOMBER START TO

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THE WHAT WILL BE OFFICIALLY

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NAMING DONALD TRUMP AS THE

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REPUBLICAN NOMINEE.

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>> I’M SADDENED, AS WELL.

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I BECAME A POLITICAL JOURNALIST

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BECAUSE I BECAME FASCINATED WITH

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CONVENTIONS AND THESE POLITICAL

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CAMPAIGNS.

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THEY’RE EXCITING AND THEY’RE

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EXHILARATED AND A CHANCE FOR

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VOTERS TO GET UP FRONT WITH

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THESE CANDIDATES AND IT’S A

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FASCINATING PROCESS TO WATCH,

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AND I’M HOPING IT DOESN’T CHANGE

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ALL OF THAT DRAMATICALLY.

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THE SECURITY WILL.

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I’VE BEEN FASCINATED BY SENATOR

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GRAHAM TALKING ABOUT THEODORE

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ROOSEVELT.

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THEODORE ROOSEVELT WAS SHOT

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FAMOUSLY IN MILWAUKEE AND I SAY

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FAMOUSLY BECAUSE AFTER BEING

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SHOT IT WAS JUST A GRAZE, HE

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JUST KIND OF BRUSHED IT OFF,

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GAVE THAT SPEECH AND THEN WENT,

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YOU KNOW, TO THE HOSPITAL

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AFTERWARDS.

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SO WHAT I THINK NOW WHEN DOES

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THE FORMER PRESIDENT COME INTO

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MILWAUKEE GIVE THE SPEECH TO SET

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THE TONE, BUT NOT ONLY THE

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CONVENTION, BUT GOING FORWARD.

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>> PEOPLE WILL BE HANGING ON HIS

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EVERY WORD.

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THAT IS FOR SURE.

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CAROL LEE, YOU’VE BEEN DOING A

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LOT OF REPORTING WITH THE FACT

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THAT THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN

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WRESTLING FOR THESE CALLS FOR

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PRESIDENT BIDEN TO PASS THE

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TORCH.

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HOW DOES THIS MOMENT, DOES THIS

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MOMENT IMPACT WHETHER OR NOT THE

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TALKS COME TO A STANDSTILL HELP

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HAS THAT ALREADY HAPPENED?

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THAT FEELS LIKE ANCIENT HISTORY,

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RIGHT?

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>> IT DOES.

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IT TELLS YOU WHERE THIS IS

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HEADED AND WHEN YOU TALK TO

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DEMOCRATS SAY THIS IS ALL PAUSED

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AND THE PRESIDENT’S RE-ELECTION

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CAMPAIGN IS EFFECTIVELY PAUSED

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AND THE WHITE HOUSE IS IN THIS

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HOUR-BY-HOUR DISCUSSION WHEN

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DOES THE PRESIDENT COME OUT TO

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TO SPEAK AGAIN.

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WHAT DOES THE SCHEDULE LOOK LIKE

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THIS WEEK.

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IS HE GOING TO CONTINUE TO

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TRAVEL?

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HE HAD CAMPAIGN, EVENTS AND IT

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REMAINS TO BE SEEN, BUT FOR NOW

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THE TONE AND THE TENOR IS IT

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WOULD BE REALLY TONE DEAF FOR A

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DEMOCRAT TO COME OUT AND SAY

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IT’S TIME FOR THE PRESIDENT TO

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GO.

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>> I THINK THAT’S WHAT I’M ALSO

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HEARING.

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IT FEELS ALL PAUSED RIGHT NOW.

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IT MAY NOT FEEL PAUSED TOMORROW

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OR TUESDAY AND PART OF OF THAT

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IS BECAUSE THE CONVENTION IS

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STARTING AND UNLESS THE

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PROGRAMMING CHANGES THE RHETORIC

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AND HOW THE PROGRAMMING IS SET

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UP IT’S NOT CALMING THE TONE OR

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RESTORING CIVILITY.

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WE’LL SEE IF THAT PROGRAMMING

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CHANGES, BUT IF IT STAYS THE

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SAME THAT IS ESCALATING IT.

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IT IS NOT A CIVIL APPROACH.

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>> THAT’S WHAT I’M WORRIED

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ABOUT.

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>> IT CAN BE TOUGH TO EXECUTE A

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CONVENTION PROGRAM WHEN YOU HAVE

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SOME EVENT THAT’S THROWN IN LIKE

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THIS.

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IN 2012 WHEN I HAD TO HELP

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EXECUTE THE ROMNEY CAMPAIGN

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CONVENTION PROGRAM WE HAD

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HURRICANE, THIS OBVIOUSLY IS FAR

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MORE HORRIFIC AND CREATES A

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WHOLE SET OF DIFFERENT

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CHALLENGES, BUT IT WILL BE

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INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THAT’S

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NAVIGATED OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL

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DAYS BECAUSE THE FOCUS WILL BE

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ON IMMIGRATION AND HOW TO MAKE

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AMERICA SAFE AGAIN AND ALL THESE

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OTHER THEMES.

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IS THAT GOING TO CONTINUE OR IS

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THERE GOING TO BE A DRAMATIC

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SHIFT IN THE PROGRAM BECAUSE OF

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THIS MAYBE A MORE UNIFYING TONE

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AND ONE THAT ALLOWS FORMER

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PRESIDENT TRUMP IN A UNIQUE WAY.

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>> WE WILL BE WATCHING ALL OF

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THOSE QUESTIONS AND THANK YOU

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ALL FOR BEING HERE THIS MORNING.

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WE DO HAVE A PROGRAMMING NOTE.

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OUR SUNDAY "MEET THE PRESS"

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BROADCAST WILL BE OFF THE AIR

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FOR A FEW WEEKS DURING THE

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COVERAGE OF THE BRITISH OPEN AND

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OUR ROUND THE CLOCK COVERAGE OF

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THE OLYMPIC GAMES IN PARIS.

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I WILL BE IN MILWAUKEE ALL WEEK

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ANCHORING OUR STREAMING SHOW

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MEET THE PRESS.

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THAT IS ALL FOR TODAY.

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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING

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AND PLEASE DO TAKE CARE OF

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YOURSELF AS THE NATION CONTINUES

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TO GRAPPLE WITH WHAT JUST

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UNFOLDED.

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WE’LL SEE YOU BACK IN AUGUST

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BECAUSE IF IT’S SUNDAY, IT’S
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