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VICTORY.

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>> ALTHOUGH STATE OFFICIALS IN

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ALL 50 STATES MUST ULTIMATELY

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CERTIFY THE RESULTS OF THE

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VOTING IN THEIR STATE, THE FINAL

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DECISION AS TO WHO THE STATE

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LEGISLATURES --

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AUTHORIZE BE SENT TO THE

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ELECTORAL COLLEGE IS A DECISION

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MADE SOLELY BY THE LEGISLATURE.

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ANY LEGISLATIVE BODY MAY DECIDE

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ON THE BASIS OF OVERWHELMING

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EVIDENCE OF FRAUD TO SEND

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ELECTORS TO THE ELECTORAL

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COLLEGE WHO ACCURATELY REFLECT

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THE PRESIDENT’S LEGITIMATE

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VICTORY IN THEIR STATE, WHICH

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WAS ILLEGALLY DENIED HIM THROUGH
FRAUD.

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FRAUD.

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WE MUST BE PREPARED TO LOBBY OUR

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REPUBLICAN LEGISLATEURELEGISLATU

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MY PERSONAL CONTACT.

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AND BY DEMONSTRATING THE

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OVERWHELMING WILL OF THE PEOPLE
IN THEIR STATE -- IN EACH STATE,

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IN THEIR STATE -- IN EACH STATE,

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WAS GET TO THE REAL RESULTS OR

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ACT ON A GOOD FAITH BELIEF.

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IF YOU ARE TRYING TO STEAL OR

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OVERTHROW AN ELECTION YOU HADN’T

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EVEN OFFICIALLY LOST YET.

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NOW, THIS WAS A BIG SCOOP, AND

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WE ARE INDEBTED TO CHRISTOPHER

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GULLBRANDENSON, THE DOCUMENTARY

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FILMMAKER WHO OBTAINED THAT

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FOOTAGE.

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WELCOME TO "THE BEAT" TONIGHT.

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>> THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR

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HAVING ME.

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>> YOU WERE DOING THIS WORK,

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DOCUMENTARY MAKERS OBVIOUSLY

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GATHER ALL KINDS OF FINAL OVER

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TIME, AND MUCH OF IT DOESN’T

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ALWAYS MAKE IT VERY FAR INTO THE

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FILMS YOU MAKE.

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SOME OF THESE EVENTS LOOK QUITE

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DIFFERENT AFTER JAN 6th, AFTER

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THIS WEEK’S GEORGIA INDICTMENT.

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GIVEN THAT WE’RE QUOTING THIS

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VIDEO FROM YOU, WALK US THROUGH

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WHAT YOU THINK IT SHOWS AND WHEN

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YOU REALIZED YOU HAD SOMETHING,

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BECAUSE IN EARLY NOVEMBER BEFORE

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THE RACE WAS CALLED, IT MIGHT

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HAVE JUST LOOKED TO SOME LIKE

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ONE MORE EMAIL BEING DICTATED.

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>> WELL, I THINK WE ALREADY

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REALIZED WHEN WE WERE RECORDING

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THAT THIS WAS SOMETHING

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SPECTACULAR.

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I PICKED UP ROGER STONE AT HIS

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HOME ON NOVEMBER 5th, TWO DAYS

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AFTER THE ELECTION, AND I

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EXPECTED HIM TO BE SOMEWHAT

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DOWNTRODDEN OVER THE RESULTS,

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AND BIDEN HAD CONSOLIDATED HIS

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LEAD BY THEN.

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BUT AS WE DROVE TO HIS

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WORKPLACE, HE WAS COMPLETELY --

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WITH ENERGY, ON THE PHONE

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RESTARTING STOP THE STEAL,

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MOBILIZING PEOPLE FOR THE EFFORT

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THAT WE SAW EVENTUALLY

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CULMINATING ON JANUARY 6th.

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SO I MEAN, YOU TALK ABOUT

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JOURNALISM AS THE FIRST DRAFT OF

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HISTORY, BUT THIS FILM AND THIS

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OPPORTUNITY TO RECORD THIS FELT

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LIKE -- I MEAN, IT’S HISTORY AS

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IT UNFOLDS, SO IN THAT SENSE WE

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HAD A STRONG FEELING OF

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WITNESSING SOMETHING VERY WRONG

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BUT ALSO WITH A HISTORIC

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PERSPECTIVE.

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>> YEAH, THAT’S VERY WELL PUT.

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I WANT TO YOU STAY WITH ME.

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WE’VE PLOTTED AND PLANS SOME

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TIME HERE TO GET INTO THIS.

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WE HAVE A FORMER FEDERAL

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PROSECUTOR FOR THE LEGAL PART OF

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IT, JOHN FLANNERY.

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WELCOME.

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I WENT THROUGH THE CONTEXT.

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LET ME PLAY THE SHORT BITE WHERE

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WE HEAR ROGER STONE TALK ABOUT

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HIS VIEW, THIS IS TWO DAYS

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BEFORE THE ELECTION WAS EVEN

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CALLED THAT ANY LEGISLATIVE BODY

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COULD OVERRULE ANYTHING.

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TAKE A LOOK AT THE SHORT EXCERPT

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FROM WHAT WE SAW.

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>> ANY LEGISLATIVE BODY MAY

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DECIDE TO SEND ELECTORS TO THE

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ELECTORAL COLLEGE WHO ACCURATELY

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REFLECT THE PRESIDENT’S

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LEGITIMATE VICTORY IN THEIR

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STATE.

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>> JOHN, OTHERS HAVE BEEN

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INDICTED FOR RELATED EFFORTS.

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WHAT DO YOU SEE IN THIS VIDEO?

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DO YOU THINK PROSECUTORS WOULD

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WANT IT?

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DO YOU THINK IT’S INCRIMINATING?

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>> OH, ABSOLUTELY, AND WHAT

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CHRISTIAN JUST SAID, WHICH NAILS

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IT DOWN, IS THEY KNEW THAT HE’D

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LOST THE ELECTION BEFORE IT WAS

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ANNOUNCED, AND THAT’S WHY THEY

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BEGAN THESE INITIATIVES THEN.

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IN THE WEEKS AND MONTHS

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BEFOREHAND, THEY HAD TO KNOW

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WHAT WAS GOING ON.

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THESE GUYS ARE OLD HANDS AT

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THIS, PARTICULAR THROUGH STONE.

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AND SO ANY PROSECUTOR WOULD TAKE

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THIS TO SHOW KNOWLEDGE AND

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INTENT BEFORE THE MEMOS.

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AND I THINK THE MEMOS ARE THE

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LYRICS FOR THE SONGS THESE GUYS

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WERE ALREADY SINGING IMMEDIATELY

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AFTER THE ELECTION.

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TWO DAYS LATER HE’S DICTATING

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THIS MEMO, AND AT ONE POINT I

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UNDERSTOOD THIS WENT TO FOS,

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FRIENDS OF STONE.

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I DON’T KNOW WHO’S ON THAT LIST,

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BUT THAT’S IMPORTANT.

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THERE’S A CIRCULATION OF SOME

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SORT, WHICH IS EFFECTIVE OR

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INFECTIVE.

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BUT JUDGING BY THE CONDUCT AFTER

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THAT, BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE

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GOING OUT DOING WHAT IS

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PRESCRIBED IN THAT DICTATED

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MEMO, WE KNOW THAT THEY’RE

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ALREADY PULLING TOGETHER.

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AND THEN TO HAVE THE PRESIDENT’S

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SON BASICALLY BREAKING OUT THE

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ELEMENTS THAT CONFORM WITH WHAT

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STONE IS SENDING.

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SO I THINK IT’S POWERFUL.

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KNOWLEDGE ABOUT WHO THAT WAS

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BEING SENT TO AND WHETHER YOU

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HAVE HAD CONTACT WITH U.S. LAW

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ENFORCEMENT OF ANY KIND ABOUT

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YOUR WORK AS WELL AS ANYTHING

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ELSE YOU WANTED TO SHARE.

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>> YES, FIRST OFF, I THINK IT’S

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VERY IMPORTANT WHO STONE WAS

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COMMUNICATING TO, AND AS YOU

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JUST MENTIONED BEFORE, THERE WAS

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THIS ENCRYPTED CHAT GROUP CALLED

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FRIENDS OF STONE, OR FOS.

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THERE WERE 47 MEMBERS OF THIS

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GROUP.

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IT INCLUDED ALI ALEXANDER,

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ENRIQUE OTERO, STEWART RHODES,

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AND A NUMBER OF OTHER PEOPLE WHO

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CAME TO PLAY A KEY PART IN THE

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JANUARY 6th STORM OF THE

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CAPITOL.

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SO HE’S COMMUNICATING DIRECTLY

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WITH THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ENDS UP

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BEING AT THE FOREFRONT OF THE

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ATTACK AT THE CAPITOL.

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BUT NOT ONLY THAT --

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>> LET ME SLOW YOU DOWN ON THAT

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POINT.

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I KNOW I ASKED MULTIPLE

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QUESTIONS, BUT I JUST WANT TO

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SLOW YOU DOWN.

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SOME OF THE INDIVIDUALS YOU

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NAMED ARE CONVICTED

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SEDITIONISTS.

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SOME ARE SERVING LONG PRISON

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SENTENCES.

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SINCE YOU RAISE THAT AND WE’RE

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TALKING ABOUT THIS, THAT SHOWS

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SOME OF THE COUP EFFORTS BEING

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SHARED WITH THEM, THAT IS A

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TRUMP ALLY TELLING THEM ABOUT

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THIS PROCESS WITH THE STATES.

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DID YOU SEE OR OBSERVE ANYTHING

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THAT SUGGESTED THE OTHER FLOW OF

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INFORMATION, THAT THEY WERE

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TELLING HIM ABOUT VIOLENT

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PLOTTING OR STORMING THE CAPITOL

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IN ADVANCE OF THE 6th?

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>> WELL, I THINK ONE OF THE

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INTERESTING FACTS THAT WAS

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UNCOVERED BY THE JANUARY 6th

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COMMITTEE WAS SOME OF THIS

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COMMUNICATION -- I BELIEVE THAT

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STEWART RHODES ACTUALLY USED THE

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FRIENDS OF STONE F.O.S. CHAT

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GROUP DURING THE ATTACK ON THE

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CAPITOL WHERE HE TEXTED GROUPS

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ABOUT AN ENTRANCE THAT WAS OPEN.

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SO I THINK THERE’S BEEN SOME

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BACK AND FORTH THAT HAS BEEN

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DOCUMENTED.

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BUT THE IMPORTANT -- THERE ARE

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TWO IMPORTANT POINTS IN THIS, I

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THINK.

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THESE INDIVIDUALS MOVED ON

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IMMEDIATELY IN THE DAYS AFTER TO

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PRESSURE THE STATE LEGISLATORS

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IN GEORGIA AND OTHER STATES JUST