WEBVTT 00:03.971 --> 00:08.441 >> AND WE ARE BACK WITH FORMER 00:08.476 --> 00:09.711 >> AND WE ARE BACK WITH FORMER 00:09.712 --> 00:10.761 FEDERAL PROSECUTORS TANYA 00:10.772 --> 00:12.021 MILLER, ANDREW WEISSMANN AND 00:12.032 --> 00:13.194 HARRY LITMAN. 00:13.195 --> 00:16.510 AND THE DEFENSE SPEAKS -- 00:16.521 --> 00:18.229 CRIMINAL DEFENDANT RUDOLPH 00:18.240 --> 00:20.752 GIULIANI JUST SAID THIS. 00:20.786 --> 00:23.360 >> THIS IS A RIDICULOUS 00:23.362 --> 00:24.632 APPLICATION OF THE RACKETEERING 00:24.633 --> 00:24.935 STATUTE. 00:24.946 --> 00:25.996 THERE’S PROBABLY NO ONE THAT 00:26.030 --> 00:27.740 KNOWS IT BETTER THAN I DO. 00:27.741 --> 00:28.806 PROBABLY SOME THAT NOTE AS WELL 00:28.807 --> 00:29.378 -- 00:29.379 --> 00:31.651 I WAS THE FIRST ONE TO USE IT 00:31.662 --> 00:32.769 IN WHITE COLLAR -- 00:32.770 --> 00:35.636 BUT IN MAJOR CASES, LIKE THE 00:35.671 --> 00:38.596 BOOST THE CASE, IN THE MILKEN 00:38.607 --> 00:40.912 CASE, THIS IS NOT MEANT FOR 00:40.923 --> 00:42.278 ELECTION DISPUTES. 00:42.279 --> 00:44.493 THIS IS RIDICULOUS WHAT SHE IS 00:44.494 --> 00:45.022 DOING. 00:45.023 --> 00:47.964 >> ANDREW WEISSMANN, YOUR 00:47.975 --> 00:50.940 RESPONSE TO DEFENDANT GIULIANI. 00:50.974 --> 00:52.580 >> GIULIANI -- 00:52.581 --> 00:54.986 ALL OF THE DEFENDANTS OF THE 00:54.987 --> 00:57.570 MAJOR NAMES THAT WE KNOW ABOUT 00:57.581 --> 00:59.957 I THINK IS IN THE MOST LEGAL 00:59.958 --> 01:00.637 PERIL. 01:00.648 --> 01:03.434 NOT ONLY IS HE ON TAPE, AND 01:03.436 --> 01:05.670 THERE ARE CREDIBLE WITNESSES, 01:05.704 --> 01:08.131 AND TRANSCRIPTS OF HIS FALSE 01:08.132 --> 01:09.400 STATEMENTS TO THE GEORGIA 01:09.411 --> 01:09.984 LEGISLATURE. 01:09.995 --> 01:14.102 NOT ONLY IS THERE HIS BAD FAITH 01:14.136 --> 01:15.935 LITIGATION IN PENNSYLVANIA, AS 01:15.946 --> 01:17.560 FOUNDED BY THE THE DISCIPLINARY 01:17.561 --> 01:18.437 COMMITTEE IN -- 01:18.471 --> 01:20.334 WHERE THEY FOUND THAT HE DID 01:20.345 --> 01:22.563 NOT HAVE A BASIS TO CHALLENGE 01:22.596 --> 01:24.831 THE VOTES THERE. 01:24.842 --> 01:27.228 BUT YOU ALSO HAVE HIS CONDUCT 01:27.262 --> 01:30.726 CHARGED HERE WITH RESPECT TO 01:30.728 --> 01:33.186 RUBY FREEMAN AND SHAYE MOSS. 01:33.187 --> 01:35.428 SO, THERE’S NOT ONLY A HIGH-END 01:35.439 --> 01:37.542 WHAT HE WAS DOING TO DEMOCRACY 01:37.553 --> 01:39.076 WRIT LARGE, WITH THE REAL 01:39.077 --> 01:39.911 CONSEQUENCES AND -- 01:39.912 --> 01:42.545 IN MY VIEW -- 01:42.556 --> 01:45.135 RACIST CONDUCT ON HIS PART WITH 01:45.146 --> 01:47.817 RESPECT TO THOSE TWO WOMEN -- 01:47.819 --> 01:52.552 AND TO MAKE IT A STRONGER CASE, 01:52.554 --> 01:54.540 IN THE CIVIL LAWSUIT, IN D.C., 01:54.551 --> 01:56.646 BEFORE THE FORMER PHARMA CHIEF 01:56.647 --> 01:58.619 JUDGE, BERYL HOWELL, GIULIANI 01:58.630 --> 01:59.747 HAS ESSENTIALLY ADMITTED THAT 01:59.748 --> 02:00.339 -- 02:00.373 --> 02:01.740 NOT CHALLENGING THE ALLEGATIONS 02:01.751 --> 02:02.125 THERE. 02:02.159 --> 02:04.789 SO, IT WILL BE AN EFFORT TO USE 02:04.800 --> 02:07.598 THAT IN THIS CASE. 02:07.609 --> 02:09.506 SO, HE IS FACING INCREDIBLY 02:09.517 --> 02:11.233 STRONG CHARGES. 02:11.244 --> 02:13.838 AND HE CANNOT BE FEDERALLY 02:13.849 --> 02:14.793 PARDONED -- 02:14.795 --> 02:16.106 THESE STATE CHARGES. 02:16.117 --> 02:17.959 AND I THINK, AS YOU MENTIONED, 02:17.993 --> 02:19.256 HE IS RELATIVELY OLD. 02:19.267 --> 02:21.211 AND HE IS GOING TO BE WITHOUT A 02:21.245 --> 02:22.811 LOT OF MONEY. 02:22.813 --> 02:24.649 BECAUSE HE IS BEING SUED BY 02:24.660 --> 02:25.096 DOMINION. 02:25.107 --> 02:27.313 HE IS BEING SUED BY RUBY 02:27.314 --> 02:29.050 FREEMAN AND SHAYE MOSS, AS WELL 02:29.084 --> 02:29.874 HE SHOULD BE. 02:29.885 --> 02:31.498 AND HE HAS ALREADY BEEN 02:31.509 --> 02:32.546 SANCTIONED BY BERYL HOWELL IN 02:32.580 --> 02:33.848 THAT CASE. 02:33.859 --> 02:35.934 SO, HE IS REALLY FACING 02:35.969 --> 02:37.418 SIGNIFICANT LEGAL PERIL. 02:37.419 --> 02:39.370 >> TANYA MILLER, WOODY GIULIANI, 02:39.381 --> 02:40.532 IN THAT SAME INTERVIEW, ALSO 02:40.566 --> 02:41.351 SAID THIS. 02:41.352 --> 02:42.974 THEY ARE NOT EVEN CRIMES -- 02:42.985 --> 02:44.066 THIS IS THE FIRST AMENDMENT. 02:44.100 --> 02:45.904 THIS IS FREE SPEECH. 02:45.915 --> 02:48.741 IT IS MY ACTING AS A LAWYER. 02:48.752 --> 02:50.621 I HAVE A RIGHT TO ARGUE FOR MY 02:50.623 --> 02:51.060 CLIENT. 02:51.094 --> 02:52.869 I EVEN HAVE A RIGHT TO 02:52.880 --> 02:54.420 EXAGGERATE FOR MY CLIENT. 02:54.455 --> 02:56.046 I HAVE A BASIS FOR EVERYTHING 02:56.047 --> 02:57.747 THAT I SAID. 02:57.748 --> 03:00.644 WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO THAT? 03:00.655 --> 03:03.608 >> I THINK THAT THOSE ARE THE 03:03.609 --> 03:04.699 EXPECTED DEFENSES TO HEAR. 03:04.700 --> 03:06.720 I THINK WE HAVE HEARD HIM HINT 03:06.731 --> 03:08.787 AT THESE DEFENSES ALL ALONG. 03:08.798 --> 03:10.170 LOOK, I THINK -- 03:10.181 --> 03:10.753 I AGREE. 03:10.764 --> 03:12.473 I THINK THAT RUDY GIULIANI’S 03:12.507 --> 03:13.668 CONDUCT IS PROBABLY THE MOST 03:13.679 --> 03:14.091 EGREGIOUS. 03:14.126 --> 03:15.569 IT’S PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE 03:15.570 --> 03:17.158 EASIEST TO PROVE. 03:17.169 --> 03:19.148 AND THIS NOTION THAT, SOMEHOW, 03:19.181 --> 03:20.808 RICO IS ONLY MEANT FOR THE 03:20.819 --> 03:22.634 MAFIA, I DON’T THINK HE HAS 03:22.645 --> 03:23.766 BEEN WATCHING HOW THE RICO 03:23.800 --> 03:24.759 STATUTE HAS BEEN USED IN MODERN 03:24.760 --> 03:25.170 TIMES. 03:25.181 --> 03:26.777 I CERTAINLY DON’T THINK HE HAS 03:26.778 --> 03:28.127 PAID ATTENTION TO HOW IT’S BEEN 03:28.128 --> 03:29.442 USED IN FULTON COUNTY. 03:29.453 --> 03:32.151 AND I DON’T THINK HE REALIZES 03:32.162 --> 03:33.823 THAT THIS PARTICULAR DA IS VERY 03:33.858 --> 03:37.092 SKILLED IN USING RICO FOR 03:37.093 --> 03:38.701 THINGS EXACTLY LIKE THIS, 03:38.712 --> 03:40.288 PIONEERING TYPES OF SITUATIONS 03:40.299 --> 03:42.211 WHERE THERE ARE THESE THINGS 03:42.245 --> 03:43.855 THAT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEM 03:43.856 --> 03:44.936 INDIVIDUALLY, THEY DON’T SEEM 03:44.947 --> 03:46.519 THAT TERRIBLE, BUT WHEN YOU 03:46.553 --> 03:47.809 TAKE THEM ON THE WHOLE, THEY 03:47.820 --> 03:48.877 SEEM EGREGIOUS. 03:48.912 --> 03:50.746 FOR EXAMPLE, THE AP IS CHEATING 03:50.747 --> 03:51.208 SCANDAL. 03:51.219 --> 03:53.419 MANY OF THE FOLKS DOWN HERE 03:53.453 --> 03:55.277 THOUGHT THAT REALLY WASN’T THE 03:55.278 --> 03:56.516 KIND OF CASE THAT RICO SHOULD 03:56.527 --> 03:58.235 BE USED FOR. 03:58.269 --> 03:59.500 WELL, THIS DISTRICT ATTORNEY 03:59.501 --> 04:00.384 USED IT. 04:00.395 --> 04:01.805 A FULTON COUNTY JURY AGREED. 04:01.806 --> 04:03.556 AND MANY OF THOSE -- 04:03.567 --> 04:05.039 WERE, UNFORTUNATELY, FOR A LOT 04:05.073 --> 04:06.427 OF FOLKS, CONVICTED. 04:06.438 --> 04:08.930 SO, I THINK HE IS IN FOR A RUDE 04:08.931 --> 04:10.719 AWAKENING IN FULTON COUNTY.