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AS HE’S ALREADY BEEN KNOWN TO

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ATTACK THIS D.A. AND OTHERS

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INVOLVED.

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I DON’T KNOW HOW LONG THAT CAN

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GO ON.

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>>> GARY ABERNATHY A

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CONTRIBUTING COLUMNIST FOR THE

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"WASHINGTON POST" HAS A NEW

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PIECE ENTITLED, ON "ON TRUMP NO

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ONE IS CHANGING THEIR MINDS, SO

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WHAT DO WE DO NOW"?

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HE WRITES, FOUR YEARS OF TRUMP’S

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SURLINESS CONVINCED AMERICANS TO

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SEND HIM PACKING.

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FOLLOWING 2022 MIDTERM RESULTS,

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TRUMP APPEARED VULNERABLE WITHIN

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HIS OWN RANKS.

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BUT PROSECUTORS COULD LEAVE WELL

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ENOUGH ALONE.

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WHEN STATE AND FEDERAL

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INDICTMENTS CAME ROLLING IN,

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WAVERING REPUBLICANS HAD CAUSE

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TO RECIRCUMSTANCELE THE WAGONS.

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THE LATEST POLL FINDS TRUMP

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HOLDING A VIRTUALLY

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INSURMOUNTABLE PRIMARY LEAD.

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HE SAYS WHILE HE BELIEVES VOTERS

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SHOULD NOT AWARD TRUMP THE

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PRESIDENCY AGAIN, HE WORRIES

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ABOUT THE NONSTOP NATIONAL

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TURMOIL SURROUNDING THESE LEGAL

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PROCEEDINGS.

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SEE, JOE, I MEAN, I’D LOVE TO

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HEAR YOUR TAKE, BUT I DON’T

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THINK THAT’S THE DOJ OR FANI

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WILLIS OR JACK SMITH’S FAULT.

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I MEAN, IT’S JUST LIKE DONALD

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TRUMP WANTING TO MOVE HIS TRIALS

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TO WEST VIRGINIA OR WHEREVER

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ELSE.

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HE COMMITTED THE CRIMES

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POTENTIALLY.

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THE LAW IS LOOKING INTO

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POTENTIAL CRIMES COMMITTED BY

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THIS FORMER PRESIDENT.

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THEY GOT TO DO WHAT THEY GOT TO

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DO.

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>> AND THE VENUES WHERE THE

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ALLEGED CRIMES TOOK PLACE, WHERE

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THE SEXUAL ASSAULT AND, AS THE

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JUDGE SAID, THE RAPE TOOK PLACE

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IN THE E. JEAN CARROLL CASE IN

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MANHATTAN, SO YOU WOULDN’T TRY

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THAT IN WEST VIRGINIA.

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IN D.C., WHERE JANUARY 6TH

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HAPPENED, WHERE ALL OF HIS

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ACTIVITIES HAPPENED, THE VENUE

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IS D.C.

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ALL OF THE ACTORS IN D.C., NOT

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WEST VIRGINIA OR OKLAHOMA OR, I

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DON’T KNOW, MONTANA.

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YOU GO TO MAR-A-LAGO.

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IT HAPPENED AT MAR-A-LAGO, ALL
THE DOCUMENTS, ALL LYING, ALL

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THE DOCUMENTS, ALL LYING, ALL

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THE ATTEMPTSLLEGED ATTEMPTS TO D

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THE SECURITY CAMERAS, ALL OF THE

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PHONE CALLS, ALL OF THE

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CONNIVING, IT HAPPENED THERE.

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THERE ARE A COUPLE OF INSTANCES

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THAT HAPPENED IN BEDMINSTER,

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WHERE DONALD TRUMP ACTUALLY

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REVEALED, ACCORDING TO TAPES,

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SEEMS LIKE HE REVEALED TOP

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SECRET PLANS TO INVADE IRAN.

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I’M QUITE SURPRISED THAT WE

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HAVEN’T HAD A NEW JERSEY FILING

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YET.

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AND THEN IN GEORGIA, THIS

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HAPPENED IN GEORGIA.

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IT’S IMPORTANT FOR US TO EXPLAIN

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RIGHT HERE THAT THERE IS A

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BALANCE.

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TWO THINGS CAN BE TRUE AT THE

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SAME TIME.

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I HAVE SAID ON THIS SHOW FOR

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SOME TIME, KNOWING THAT DONALD

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TRUMP WAS GOING TO RUN AGAIN IN

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2024 IF HE LOST IN 2020 SO HE

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COULD MAKE THIS ARGUMENT THAT HE

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WAS RUNNING FOR OFFICE AND THESE

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WERE POLITICIZED.

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UNDERSTANDING ALL OF THAT, I HAD

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SAID SEVERAL YEARS AGO THAT

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PERHAPS THE WORST OF ALL THE

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TERRIBLE LEGACIES THAT DONALD

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TRUMP HAS LEFT ON THE POLITICAL

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SYSTEM WOULD BE A FORMER

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PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

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BEING INDICTED.

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BUT THAT HAS TO BE BALANCED

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AGAINST PERHAPS EVEN THE MORE

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GRIEVOUS LEGAL SIN OF TELLING

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AMERICANS ONE MAN IS ABOVE THE

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LAW.

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SO IT’S A TERRIBLE CHOICE.

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TWO THINGS CAN BE TRUE AT ONE

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TIME.

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THERE ARE THREE INDICTMENTS IN

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OVERWHELMINGLY DEMOCRATIC AREAS.

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THERE ARE TWO BROUGHT BY ELECTED

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PROSECUTORS IN OVERWHELMINGLY

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DEMOCRATIC AREAS.

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THERE ARE TWO BROUGHT BY A

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JUSTICE DEPARTMENT RUN BY THE

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BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, WHO IS

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RUNNING AGAINST DONALD TRUMP.

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DONALD TRUMP SET IT UP THAT WAY.

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AND THE TRIALS ARE MOVING AT A

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MUCH FASTER PACE TO GET DONE, AT

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LEAST THE JANUARY 6TH CASE TO

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MOVE EXPEDITIOUSLY BEFORE THE

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ELECTION.

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GO AHEAD.

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>> WELL, I WAS GOING TO SAY, YOU

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KNOW, IF YOU READ THEM -- AND I

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SAY THIS ESPECIALLY TO TRUMP

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APOLOGISTS -- IF YOU READ THESE

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INDICTMENTS, YOU’VE SEEN A LOT

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OF THESE ACTS IN HERE AND MANY

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YOU READ AND YOU’VE HEARD HIM

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SAY ANTI-DEMOCRATIC THINGS.

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YOU’VE HEARD HIM SAY LIES ABOUT

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WINNING THE ELECTION.

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YOU’VE READ THESE TWEETS, OKAY?

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AND THEN THERE’S MORE ACTS IN

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HERE AND MORE CORROBORATING

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INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT HE DID TO

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TRY AND STEAL THE ELECTION.

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SO YOU DON’T EVEN IN YOUR MIND

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HAVE A QUESTION, HAVE YOUR MIND

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OPEN TO A POSSIBILITY THAT THIS

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MAN MIGHT HAVE COMMITTED A

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CRIME?

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YOU REALLY DON’T AFTER READING

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THIS AND RECOGNIZING EVERYTHING

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THAT YOU SEE IN IT?

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IT JUST DOESN’T MAKE ANY SENSE.

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>> RIGHT.

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SO FINISHING MY THOUGHT AND

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THOSE ARE GREAT POINTS, MIKA.

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I SAID ALL OF THOSE THINGS AND

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THEY REST RIGHT HERE AND THEY

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ARE DISTURBING.

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JACK GOLDSMITH IS RIGHT, THEY

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ARE DISTURBING.

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ON THE OTHER HAND, DONALD TRUMP

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DID NOT COMMIT HIS ALLEGED

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CRIMES IN WEST VIRGINIA.

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HE DID NOT COMMIT THEM IN

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OKLAHOMA.

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HE DID NOT COMMIT THEM IN AREAS

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WHERE THERE’S AN OVERWHELMING

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NUMBER OF REPUBLICANS LIVING,

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BECAUSE LET’S FACE IT DONALD

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TRUMP IS A LIFELONG DEMOCRAT WHO

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ONLY BECAME A REPUBLICAN WHEN IT

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BECAME CONVENIENT TO HIM WHEN HE
THOUGHT THAT HE COULD WIN.

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THOUGHT THAT HE COULD WIN.

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SO HE’S LIVED IN AREAS LIKE

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MANHATTAN.

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HE’S VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE

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VERY DEMOCRATS WHO HE

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CONTRIBUTED TO.

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HE GAVE MONEY TO CHUCK SCHUMER.

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IN 2014 EVEN HE GAVE MONEY TO

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KAMALA HARRIS.

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HE GAVE MONEY TO DEMOCRATS HIS

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ENTIRE LIFE.

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SO FOR REPUBLICANS TO NOW SAY,

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OH, IT’S SO UNFAIR THAT THESE

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CASES ARE BEING BROUGHT IN