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TO COUNT ON ONE PERSON TO DO IT.

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>> WITH AN ASSIST FROM DAN

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QUAYLE.

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SO, THIS IS THE GREAT IRONY,

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JOHN.

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A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE THAT JOHN

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MEACHAM AND I ARE TALKING ABOUT

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WHOSE NAMES WE CAN’T SAY BUT WHO

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EVERYBODY KNOWS WHO THEY ARE, IT

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IS -- YOU KNOW, IT IS PRETTY

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SIMPLE TO -- A LOT OF THESE

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PEOPLE, I GUESS I COULD SAY SOME

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OF THEIR NAMES, I JUST DON’T

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WANT TO WASTE MY TIME --

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>> OH, COME ON, JOE.

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GO AHEAD.

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GO AHEAD.

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>> A LOT OF THESE -- WELL, THE

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FORMER GOVERNOR OF NEW

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HAMPSHIRE, SUNUNU, SCREAMING AT

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ME ONE DAY FOR HAVING DONALD

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TRUMP ON TELEVISION, AND

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SCREAMING AT ME THE NEXT DAY FOR

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BEING INSUFFICIENTLY LOYAL TO

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DONALD TRUMP.

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THERE’S ONE NAME.

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I CAN NAME A THOUSAND OF THEM.

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BUT JUST SO PEOPLE THAT ARE

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WATCHING HERE THAT ARE

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CONSERVATIVES LIKE ME DON’T

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THINK, OH, JOE’S BECOME A

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MARXIST, HERE’S WHAT’S SO

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AMAZING ABOUT THAT DELTA.

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THAT DELTA IS OCCUPIED BY THE

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SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID I WAS TOO

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CONSERVATIVE ON BALANCING THE

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BUDGET.

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I WAS TOO CONSERVATIVE ON

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IMMIGRATION.

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I WAS TOO CONSERVATIVE ON TRADE.

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I WAS TOO CONSERVATIVE.

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YOU FILL IN THE BLANKS,

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THOMAS, GINNI THOMAS THOUGHT I

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WAS A TROUBLEMAKER WHEN I WORKED

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FOR DICK ARMEY.

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NEWT GINGRICH SAID WAYS TOO

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CONSERVATIVE, LOOK IT UP, TO

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EVER GET ELECTED IN 1994.

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HE AND OTHER PEOPLE IN THIS

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DELTA WERE THE PEOPLE WHO CALLED

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US THE JIHADISTS FOR INSISTING

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THAT WE FIGHT HARDER TO BALANCE

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THE BUDGET.

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AM I BORG YOUING YOU, JOHN?

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>> NO I’M MAKING NOTES OF THINGS

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I WOULD LIKE TO REPLY TOO.

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>> CONTINUE.

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CONTINUE TAKING YOUR NOTES.

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WE UNDERSTAND HOW THIS MUST BE

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FOR ME THAT THE SAME PEOPLE WHO

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KICKED THE HELL OUT OF ME WHEN I

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WAS IN CONGRESS FOR BEING TOO

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CONSERVATIVE ARE NOW THE ONES

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WHO ARE UPSET BECAUSE PEOPLE

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AREN’T BLINDLY LINING UP BEHIND

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DONALD TRUMP.

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AND I GUESS THE POINT IS THAT --

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THAT DELTA IS OCCUPIED BY PARTY

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HACKS.

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IT IS NOT OCCUPIED BY

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CONSERVATIVES.

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IT IS NOT OCCUPIED BY SMALL

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GOVERNMENT REPUBLICANS.

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IT IS NOT OCCUPIED BY PEOPLE WHO

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BELIEVE LIKE WE BELIEVED WHEN WE

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CAME IN AND BALANCED THE BUDGET

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FOUR YEARS IN A ROW FOR THE

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FIRST TIME IN A CENTURY, IT IS

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OCCUPIED BY THE PARTY HACKS WHO

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ATTACKED US CONSTANTLY FOR

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TRYING TO PUSH LEGISLATION, EVEN

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MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN THEIRS.

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HOW FASCINATING THAT NOW THEY’RE

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DEFENDERS OF CONSERVATISM AND

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THE GREAT REPUBLIC BECAUSE

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THEY’RE DEFENDING A GUY WHO

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WANTS TO BE AN AUTOCRAT.

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IT IS ALL -- AS SEND IN THE

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CLOWNS WOULD SAY, AS JUDY

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COLLINS WOULD SING, ISN’T IT

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RICH?

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ISN’T IT RICH?

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>> YEAH.

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ALL RIGHT.

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SO, FIRST OF ALL, THE FIRST

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PASS, THE DELTA MIGHT SEEM AS

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THOUGH IT IS OCCUPIED JUST BY

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PEOPLE WHO DON’T LIKE YOU.

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THAT’S ONE POSSIBILITY.

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>> NO.

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PARTY HACKS.

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YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY

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WOULD LIKE ME, THEY WOULD LIKE

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ME IF I HAD BEEN A PARTY HACK,

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IF THEY COULD COME TO ME DURING

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THE WHIP VOTES AND SAY, JOE,

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VOTE FOR THIS AND I GO I’M GOING

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TO VOTE FOR WHAT I BELIEVE IN.

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I’M SORRY, GO AHEAD.

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>> I MERELY WANTED TO ENTERTAIN

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THAT POSSIBILITY FOR A MOMENT

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AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT POINT, I

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NEVER FOUND MYSELF IN AGREEMENT

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WITH GINNI THOMAS BEFORE ABOUT

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ANYTHING, BUT SHE CONSIDERS YOU

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A TROUBLEMAKER, SEEMS LIKE ON

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ONE MOMENT SHE HAD A LITTLE

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INSIGHT INTO YOUR CHARACTER.

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BUT I WOULD SAY THE MORE

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IMPORTANT THING ABOUT YOUR

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DELTA, JOE, IS THAT IT IS

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OCCUPIED NOT JUST BY PARTY

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HACKS.

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IT IS OCCUPIED BY A COLLECTION

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OF PEOPLE WHO MAKE UP THE CORE

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OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY’S

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ELECTED POLITICAL CLASS, LET’S

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CALL IT THAT.

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AND WHAT THEY HAVE SHOWN OVER

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THE LAST, YOU KNOW, SEVEN YEARS,

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IS THAT THEY ARE EITHER SORT OF

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OF -- POWER MATTER MORE THAN

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ANYTHING.

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THIS WHOLE THING ABOUT

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CONSERVATIVE, POLICY, ALL OF

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THAT STUFF DOESN’T MATTER, THEY

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JUST CARE ABOUT POWER.

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DONALD TRUMP HAD IT, THEY’RE

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WILLING TO DO ANYTHING TO BE

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CLOSE TO IT, TO KEEP IT, TO BE

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PARASITES ON IT, ALL OF THAT.

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OR THEY ARE -- THEY’RE NOT

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WHORES TO POWER, THESE ARE NOT

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MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE CATEGORIES,

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AND THE FEARFUL.

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THE KIND OF PATHETICALLY FEARFUL

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WHO LOOK AT THE REPUBLICAN BASE

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AND SEE THEIR LOYALTY TO DONALD

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TRUMP AND SAY, I’M AFRAID OF MY

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OWN SHADOW, I’M AFRAID OF THE

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BASE, I’M AFRAID IF I TAKE TRUMP

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ON IN THE CAUSE OF PRINCIPLE

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THAT I’LL BE EATEN ALIVE BY THE

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BASE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, I

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WILL LOSE MY JOB, I’LL FACE THE

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WORST POSSIBLE THING I COULD

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IMAGINE AND HAVE TO GO EARN A

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LIVING IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR.

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>> CAN I ADD ONE MORE?

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THEY’RE GRIFTERS TOO.

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A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE, IT IS ALL

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ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY CAN THEY

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RAISE, HOW MANY HITS CAN THEY

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GET?

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IF NEWT GINGRICH SAYS SOMETHING

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OUTRAGEOUS LIKE LET’S DEFUND

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JACK SMITH AND GO TO NEWT DOT

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WHATEVER AND GIVE ME NUNMONEY.

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THERE IS SO MUCH GRIFTING GOING

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ON.

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THE JIM AND TAMMY FAYE BAKKER OF

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THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

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>> THE PA THETTHETICALLY FEARFUL

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IT ALL ADDS UP TO WHAT YOU USED

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TO FIGHT ME ABOUT, NOT THAT LONG

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AGO, JOE, I’M AFRAID YOUR PARTY

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HAS BECOME MORALLY BANKRUPT AND

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YOU WOULD SAY, NO, IT WAS THE

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PARTY, IT WILL FIND ITS WAY BACK

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AND I FEEL LIKE WHERE WE ARE IS

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THAT MUCH OF THE REPUBLICAN

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PARTY HAS DEMONSTRATED, AGAIN,

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THE POLITICAL CLASS OF IT, THE

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BASE OF IT, HAS A DIFFERENT SET

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OF PROBLEMS, BUT THE POLITICAL

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CLASS OF IT HAS SHOWN ITSELF TO

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BE ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE

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BEEN SAYING THAT JOHN MEACHAM IS

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POINTING TO, IT IS A GIANT TEST

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FOR THE COUNTRY AND WHAT USED TO

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BE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

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I DON’T KNOW WHAT THAT IS

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ANYMORE.

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IT IS THE COLLECTION THAT WE

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JUST TALKED ABOUT, AND IT IS

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STAGGERING THAT A PARTY THAT WE

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ALL CONSIDERED PROBLEMATIC IN

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SOME RESPECTS BUT THOUGHT OF AS

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A SERIOUS POLITICAL PARTY LESS

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THAN A DECADE AGO IS WHAT IT IS

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NOW, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, A WHORE

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HOUSE.

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>> AND ONE EXAMPLE OF

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REPUBLICANS TO GRADE THEMSELVES

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BY BLINDLY FOLLOWING DONALD

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TRUMP, LET’S REMEMBER, RUDYDOWNY

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Y

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GIULIANI WAS A ATTORNEY IN NEW

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YORK CITY.

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NOW HE’S A DEFENDANT ON RICOH

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CHARGES BECAUSE HE FOLLOWED

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DONALD TRUMP.

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DAVE AARONBURG, THE INDICTMENT

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OUT OF GEORGIA HAS A DOZEN

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REFERENCES TO DONALD TRUMP’S

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TWEETS.

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WE KNOW, OF COURSE, HE IS STILL

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GETTING IN TROUBLE WITH HIS

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SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS, PROTECTIVE

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ORDER OUT OF FEDERAL COURT.

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SO TWO-PARTER FOR YOU.

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DO YOU THINK, A, WE COULD SEE A

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SIMILAR PROTECTIVE ORDER OUT OF

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GEORGIA?

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HE’S BEEN ON THE ASSAULT ON

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TRUTH SOCIAL AGAINST FANI WILLIS

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AND THE REST.

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AND DO YOU THINK AT THIS POINT

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BECAUSE OF THESE POSTS DO YOU

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THINK THAT THERE IS A CHANCE

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WHERE HE COULD SUFFER SOME REAL

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CONSEQUENCES FOR THEM, EITHER IN

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THE STATE OR FEDERAL LEVEL?

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>> I THINK HE ALREADY DID,

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JONATHAN.

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I THINK THE REASON WHY YOU SAW

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AN EXPEDITED INDICTMENT LAST

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NIGHT, WE EXPECTED IT TO HAPPEN

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TODAY, WAS BECAUSE OF DONALD

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TRUMP’S SOCIAL MEDIA MESSAGES

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ATTACKING THE FORMER LIEUTENANT

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GOVERNOR OF GEORGIA.

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SO, THAT WORKED AGAINST HIM.

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AND, YEAH, PROTECTIVE ORDER I

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THINK IS IMMINENT BECAUSE THAT’S

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COMMON IN THESE KIND OF CASES.

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I’M WAITING TO SEE IF THERE IS

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GOING TO BE A PARTIAL GAG ORDER

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BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP CAN’T

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COMPLY WITH ONE AND HE IF HE

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GETS ORDERED TO STAY SILENT,

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HE’LL VIOLATE THAT AND THAT MAY

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BE THE QUICKEST WAY HE ENDS UP

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IN AN ORANGE JUMPSUIT.

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>> THANK YOU, ALL, VERY MUCH FOR

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BEING ON THIS MORNING.

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WHAT A DAY.

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>>> STILL AHEAD ON "MORNING

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JOE," AS JOE JUST MENTIONED,

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FORMER HOUSE SPEAKER NEWT

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GINGRICH CALLS ON REPUBLICANS TO

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CUT OFF THE FUNDING FOR SPECIAL

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COUNSEL JACK SMITH’S OFFICE.

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WE’LL SHOW YOU THOSE NEW

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REMARKS.

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>>> PLUS, MUCH MORE IN DEPTH

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LEGAL ANALYSIS IN THE WAKE OF