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I WAS SURPRISED.

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I WAS SURPRISED.
I HAD --

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I HAD --

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>> I WAS A MEMBER OF -- WHEN I

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PUSHED BACK ON THE LIES THAT

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THEY WERE BRINGING BEFORE US

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DURING THAT HEARING

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INSTANTANEOUSLY I BECAME A

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TARGET ONLINE AND I SAY A BOMB

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GOT DROPPED ON MY LIFE BECAUSE

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OUR FAMILY ENDED UP HAVI

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HAVE POLICE PROTECTION FOR THE

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NEXT MONTH OR SO.

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>> SO, GENE, YOU CAN TAKE THE

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NEXT QUESTION BUT WHEN YOU LOOK

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AT WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO SOME OF

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THESE PEOPLE’S LIVES AND ALSO

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MANY ARE MENTIONED HERE, MANY

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REPUBLICANS, AS WELL AS

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DEMOCRATS AND JUST INNOCENT

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CITIZENS WHO HELD THE LINE IN

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THE PROCESS AND THEN IF YOU READ

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IN THE INDICTMENT OF THE

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CHAIRWOMAN OF THE REPUBLICAN

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PARTY, RONNA McDANIEL IS

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MENTIONED BECAUSE TRUMP AND JOHN

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EASTMAN REACHED OUT TO HER AND

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THEY WANTED HER TO FIGURE OUT A

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WAY TO GET CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS

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TO CAST ELECTORAL VOTES FOR

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DONALD TRUMP EVEN THOUGH HE LOST

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AND SHE CONTINUES.

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I MEAN, HOW DOES SHE CONTINUE TO

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PROTECT DONALD -- WHEN YOU’RE

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SEEING AND HEARING JUST LIKE

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THESE OTHER PEOPLE THAT THIS

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DOESN’T FEEL RIGHT, HOW ABOUT

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LET’S NOT EVEN SAY THIS FEELS

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LIKE A AYCRIME, MAYBE YOU CAN’T

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IDENTIFY THAT CONVERSATION

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YOURSELF AS A CRIME, NOT SURE

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HOW, RONNA, BUT AT THE SAME TIME

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YOU KNOW SOMETHING IS WRONG.

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YOU SEE S WITH YOUR EYES WHAT HE

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DOING AND YOU GET CALLS LIKE

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THAT AND YOU CAN’T STAND UP.

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>> EXACTLY.

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WHAT STRIKES ME ABOUT THIS

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INDICTMENT IS, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE

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THAT THE TWO LEVELS OF THIS, YOU

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SEE IN WASHINGTON, IN THE

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COUNTRY, RONNA McDANIEL AND

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OTHERS, REPUBLICAN SENATORS,

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REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE

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AREF  BUYING INTO THIS BIG

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ELECTION LIE FOR POLITICAL

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REASONS, RIGHT?

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IT’S ALL POLITICAL AND THEY’RE

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MAKING THESE GRAND, SWEEPING

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STATEMENTS THAT ARE LIES, BUT

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HERE YOU SEE THE EFFECT ON

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PEOPLE, YOU SEE WHAT IT DID TO

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PEOPLE.

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YOU SEE INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE

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INVOLVED AND WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE

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ON THE GROUND AND IT’S VERY

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DIFFERENT AND SO MY QUESTION FOR

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THE SENATOR IS THAT BECAUSE THIS

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IS SO FOCUSED AND SO GRANULAR,

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HOW IS THIS -- HOW DO YOU THINK

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THIS WILL BE RECEIVED IN GEORGIA

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REALLYD  ACROSS POLITICAL LINES,

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MEAN, OBVIOUSLY THE STATE IS

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POLARIZED LIKE THE AMERICAN

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ELECTORATE IS POLARIZED AND, YOU

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KNOW, THERE ARE PEOPLE FOR WHOM

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DONALD TRUMP CAN NEVER DO ANY

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WRONG, BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK THE

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IMPACT WILL BE BROADLY AS THE

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DUST SETTLES HERE?

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>> WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE

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QUESTION.

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YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU IN YOUR

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QUESTION HIT ON PART OF THE

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ANSWER, WHICH IS THAT OUR STATE

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AND OUR COUNTRY DO REMAIN

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COMPLETELY POLARIZED AND WE JUST

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HAVE A SPLIT IN WHAT INFORMATION

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PEOPLE HAVE.

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YOU KNOW, IT WOULDN’T HAVE BEEN

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SO MANY DECADES AGO THAT ANY

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INDICTMENT WOULD HAVE BEEN

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VIEWED AS DISQUALIFYING, NOT

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JUST BY ELECTED OFFICIALS BUT

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ALSO BY THE VOTERS, BY THE

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PEOPLE, AND WE’VE DEVOLVED INTO

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THIS MEDIA ECHO SYSTEM ON THE

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RIGHT WHERE THERE’S NO SENSE OF

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SHARED REALITY, WHICH IS A HUGE

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PROBLEM FACING OUR COUNTRY AS WE

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TRY TO SOLVE PROBLEMS, BUT, YOU

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KNOW, I DO THINK THAT THERE ARE

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THE SWING VOTERS IN THE SUBURBS

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ANDSU THE EXURBS IN ATLANTA FOR

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WHOM THIS WILL BE MEANINGFUL,

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THOUGH THEY DID LIVE THROUGH IT

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THEY’LL UNDERSTAND IT WAS A

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CONSPIRACY TO TRY TO

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DISENFRANCHISE MILLIONS OF

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GEORGIA VOTERS BY SOMEONE WHO

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HAD BEEN -- WHO HAD SWORN TO

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UPHOLD, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE

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CONSTITUTION, BUT FOR MANY

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OTHERS NOTHING WILL SHAKE THEM

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OUT OF THEIR BELIEF THAT DONALD

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TRUMP SIMPLY DID NO WRONG, THAT

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THE ELECTION ACTUALLY WAS

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FRAUDULENT OR STOLEN AND THAT

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THIS IS SOME SORT OF POLITICAL

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WITCH-HUNT.
>> YEAH, DEMOCRAT GEORGIA STATE