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>> A QUORUM BEING PRESENT, THE

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>> A QUORUM BEING PRESENT, THE

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SELECT COMMITTEE TO INVESTIGATE

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THE JANUARY 6th ATTACK ON THE

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UNITED STATES CAPITOL WILL BE IN

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ORDER.

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WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE CHAIR IS

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AUTHORIZED TO DECLARE THE

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COMMITTEE IN RECESS AT ANY

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POINT.

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PURSUANT TO HOUSE DEPOSITION

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AUTHORITY REGULATION 10, THE

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CHAIR ANNOUNCES THE COMMITTEE’S

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APPROVAL TO RELEASE THE

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DEPOSITION MATERIAL PRESENTED

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DURING TODAY’S MEETING.

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AND, FURTHER ITS APPROVAL TO

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RELEASE DEPOSITION MATERIAL THAT

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ACCOMPANIES RELEASE OF THE

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SELECT COMMITTEE’S FINAL REPORT.

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GOOD AFTERNOON.

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AND MAY GOD BLESS THE UNITED

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STATES OF AMERICA.

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TO CAST A VOTE IN THE UNITED

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STATES IS AN ACT OF FAITH AND

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HOPE.

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WHEN WE DROP THAT BALLOT IN THE

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BALLOT BOX, WE EXPECT THE PEOPLE

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NAMED ON THE BALLOT ARE GOING TO

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UPHOLD THEIR END OF THE DEAL.

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THE WINNER SWEARS AN OATH AND

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OPPOSE IT.

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THOSE WHO COME UP SHORT

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ULTIMATELY ACCEPT THE RESULTS

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AND ABIDE BY THE RULE OF LAW.

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THAT FAITH IN OUR SYSTEM IS THE

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FOUNDATION OF AMERICAN

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DEMOCRACY.

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IF THE FAITH IS BROKEN, SO IS

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OUR DEMOCRACY.

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DONALD TRUMP BROKE THAT FAITH.

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HE LOST THE 2020 ELECTION AND

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KNEW IT.

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BUT HE CHOSE TO TRY TO STAY IN

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OFFICE THROUGH A MULTI-PART

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SCHEME TO OVERTURN THE RESULTS

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AND BLOCK THE TRANSFER OF POWER.

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IN THE END, HE SUMMONED THE MOB

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TO WASHINGTON AND KNOWINGLY THEY

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WERE ARMED AND ANGRY, POINTED

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THEM TO THE CAPITOL AND TOLD

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THEM TO FIGHT LIKE HELL.

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THERE’S NO DOUBT ABOUT THIS.

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THIS AFTERNOON, MY COLLEAGUES

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WILL PRESENT OUR KEY FINDINGS

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REMINDING YOU OF SOME OF THE

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INFORMATION WE PRESENTED IN

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EARLIER HEARINGS AND TELLING YOU

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HOW IT FITS IN OUR BROADER

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CONCLUSIONS.

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THOSE CONCLUSIONS HAVE HELPED

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SHAPE THE COMMITTEE’S FINAL

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REPORT WHICH WILL ADOPT TODAY

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PURSUANT TO HOUSE RESOLUTION 503

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WHICH ESTABLISHES THE SELECT

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COMMITTEE NEARLY A YEAR AND A

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HALF AGO.

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I EXPECT OUR FOUND WORK WILL BE

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FILED WITH THE CLERK OF THE

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HOUSE AND MADE PUBLIC LATER THIS

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WEEK.

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BEYOND THAT RELEASE, THE SELECT

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COMMITTEE INTENDS TO MAKE PUBLIC

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THE BULK OF ITS NONSENSE ACTIVE

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RECORDS BEFORE THE END OF THE

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YEAR.

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THESE TRANSCRIPTS AND DOCUMENTS

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WILL ALLOW THE AMERICAN PEOPLE

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TO SEE FOR THEMSELVES THE BODY

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OF EVIDENCE WE’VE GATHERED AND

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CONTINUED TO EXPLORE THE

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INFORMATION THAT HAS LED US TO

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OUR CONCLUSIONS.

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THIS COMMITTEE IS NEARING THE

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END OF ITS WORK.

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BUT AS THE COUNTRY WE REMAIN IN

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STRANGE AND UNCHARTED WATERS.

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WE’VE NEVER HAD A PRESIDENT OF

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THE UNITED STATES STIR UP A

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VIOLENT ATTEMPT TO BLOCK THE

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TRANSFER OF POWER.

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I BELIEVE NEARLY TWO YEARS LATER

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THIS IS STILL A TIME OF

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REFLECTION AND RECKONING.

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IF WE ARE TO SURVIVE AS A NATION

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OF LAWS AND DEMOCRACY, THIS CAN

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NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN.

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HOW DO WE STOP IT?

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THIS COMMITTEE WILL LAY OUT A

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NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATIONS IN ITS

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FINAL REPORT.

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BUT BEYOND ANY SPECIFIC DETAILS

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AND RECOMMENDATIONS WE PRESENT,

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THERE’S ONE FACTOR I BELIEVE IS

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MOST IMPORTANT IN PREVENTING

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ANOTHER JANUARY 6th

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ACCOUNTABILITY.

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SO TODAY, BEYOND OUR FINDINGS,

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WE WILL ALSO SHOW THAT EVIDENCE

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WE’VE GATHERED POINTS TO FURTHER

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ACTION BEYOND THE POWER OF THIS

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COMMITTEE OR THE CONGRESS TO

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HELP ENSURE ACCOUNTABILITY ON

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THE LAW.

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ACCOUNTABILITY THAT CAN ONLY BE

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FOUND IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE

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SYSTEM.

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WE HAVE EVERY CONFIDENCE THAT

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THE WORK OF THIS COMMITTEE WILL

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HELP PROVIDE A ROAD MAP TO

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JUSTICE AND THAT THE AGENCIES

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AND INSTITUTIONS RESPONSIBLE FOR

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ENSURING JUSTICE UNDER THE LAW

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WILL USE THE INFORMATION WE’VE

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PROVIDED TO AID IN THEIR WORK.

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AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE

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FOLLOWED THIS COMMITTEE’S WORK,

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I HOPE WE HAVE HELPED MAKE CLEAR

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THAT THERE IS A BROADER KIND OF

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ACCOUNTABILITY, ACCOUNTABILITY

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TO ALL OF YOU, THE AMERICAN

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PEOPLE.

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THE FUTURE OF OUR DEMOCRACY

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RESTS IN YOUR HANDS.

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IT’S UP TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS

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COUNTRY TO DECIDE WHO DESERVES

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THE PUBLIC TRUST.

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WHO PUT FIDELITY TO THE

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CONSTITUTION AND DEMOCRACY ABOVE

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ALL ELSE, WHO WILL ABIDE BY THE

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RULE OF LAW NO MATTER THE

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OUTCOME.

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I’M GRATEFUL TO THE MILLIONS OF

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YOU WHO FOLLOWED THIS

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COMMITTEE’S WORK.

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I HOPE WE LIVED UP TO OUR

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COMMITMENT TO PRESENT THE FACTS

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AND LET THE FACTS SPEAK FOR

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THEMSELVES.

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LET ME SAY IN CLOSING, THE WOMEN

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AND MEN SEATED AROUND ME ARE THE

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MOST GENUINE IN PUBLIC SENSE.

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THEY PUT ASIDE POLITICS AND

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PARTISANSHIP TO ENSURE THE

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SUCCESS OF THIS COMMITTEE IN

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PROVIDING ANSWERS TO THE

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AMERICAN PEOPLE.

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I ESPECIALLY WANT TO THANK AND

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ACKNOWLEDGE OUR VICE CHAIR WHO

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HAS BECOME A TRUE PARTNER IN

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THIS BIPARTISAN EFFORT.

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MISS CHENEY OF WYOMING.

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AND I ALSO RECOGNIZE HER FOR ANY

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OPENING STATEMENT THAT SHE CARE

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TO OFFER.

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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR.

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CHAIRMAN.

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AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR

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TREMENDOUS LEADERSHIP OF THIS

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COMMITTEE.

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I KNOW WE ALL HAVE BENEFITED

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GREATLY FROM YOUR WISDOM AND

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YOUR WISE COUNSEL.

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SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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IN APRIL OF 1861, WHEN ABRAHAM

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LINCOLN ISSUED THE FIRST CALL

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FOR VOLUNTEERS FOR THE UNION

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ARMY, MY GREAT, GREAT

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GRANDFATHER SAMUEL FLETCHER

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CHENEY, JOIN THE 21st OHIO

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VOLUNTEER INFANTRY.

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HE FOUGHT THROUGH ALL FOUR YEARS

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OF THE CIVIL WAR.

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FROM CHICAGO PHAU GA, TO STONES

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RIVER, TO ATLANTA.

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HE MARCHED WITH HIS UNIT IN THE

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GRAND REVIEW OF TROOPS UP

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PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE IN MAY OF

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1865.

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PAST A REVIEWING STAND WHERE

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PRESIDENT JOHNSON AND GENERAL

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GRANT WERE SEATED.

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SILUS CANFIELD, THE HISTORIAN OF

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THE 21st OHIO VOLUNTEER INFANTRY

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DESCRIBED THE MEN IN THE UNIT

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THIS WAY.

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HE SAID THEY HAD A JUST

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APPRECIATION OF THE VALUE AND

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ADVANTAGE OF FREE GOVERNMENT AND

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THE NECESSITY OF DEFENDING AND

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MAINTAINING IT.

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AND THEY ENLISTED, PREPARED TO

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HAVE ALL THE EXPOSURES, DANGERS,

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AND EVEN DEATH FOR THE UNITY OF

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OUR NATION AND THE PERPETUITY OF

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OUR INSTITUTIONS.

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I HAVE FOUND MYSELF THINKING

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OFTEN, ESPECIALLY SINCE JANUARY

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6th, OF MY GREAT GREAT

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GRANDFATHER AND ALL THOSE IN

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EVERY GENERATION WHO HAVE

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SACRIFICED SO MUCH FOR THE UNITY

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OF OUR NATION AND THE PERPETUITY

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OF OUR INSTITUTIONS.

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THEY HEART OF OUR REPUBLIC IS

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THE GUARANTEE OF THE PEACEFUL

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TRANSFER OF POWER.

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MEMBERS OF CONGRESS ARE REMINDED

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OF THIS EVERY DAY AS WE PASS

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THROUGH THE CAPITOL ROTUNDA.

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THERE, EIGHT MAGNIFICENT

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PAINTINGS DETAIL THE EARLIEST

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DAYS OF OUR REPUBLIC.

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ONE PAINTED BY JOHN TRUMBULL TRE

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TKEUBGTS

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PREDICTS WHEN GEORGE WASHINGTON

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RESIGNED HIS COMMISSION HANDING

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CONTROL OF THE CONTINENTAL ARMY

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BACK TO CONGRESS.

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TRUMBULL CALLED THIS, QUOTE, ONE

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OF THE HIGHEST MORAL LESSONS

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EVERY GIVEN THE WORLD.

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WITH THIS NOBLE ACT, GEORGE

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WARRANT ESTABLISHED THE IN

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AGAINSTABLE ACTION OF THE

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PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF POWER IN

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OUR NATION.

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STANDING ON THE WEST FRONT OF

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THE CAPITOL IN 1981, PRESIDENT

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RONALD REAGAN DESCRIBED IT THIS

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WAY.

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THE ORDERLY TRANSFER OF

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AUTHORITY IS AS CALLED FOR IN

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THE CONSTITUTION RETEENLY TAKE

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PLACE AS IT HAS FOR ALMOST TWO

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CENTURIES AND FEW OF US TOP TO

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THINK HOW UNIQUE WE REALLY ARE.

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IN THE EYES OF MANY IN THE

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WORLD, THIS EVERY FOUR-YEAR

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CEREMONY THAT WE ACCEPT AS

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NORMAL IS NOTHING LESS THAN A

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MIRACLE.

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EVERY PRESIDENT IN OUR HISTORY

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HAS DEFENDED THIS ORDERLY

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TRANSFER OF AUTHORITY EXCEPT

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ONE.

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JANUARY 6th, 2021 WAS THE FIRST

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TIME ONE PERSON PRESIDENT

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REFUSED HIS CONSTITUTIONAL DUTY

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TO TRANSFER POWER PEACEFULLY TO

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THE NEXT.

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IN OUR WORK OVER THE LAST 18

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MONTHS, THE SELECT COMMITTEE HAS

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RECOGNIZED OUR OBLIGATION TO DO

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EVERYTHING WE CAN TO ENSURE THIS

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NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN.

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AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR

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INVESTIGATION, WE UNDERSTOOD

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THAT TENS OF MILLIONS OF

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AMERICANS HAD BEEN PERSUADED BY

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PRESIDENT TRUMP THAT THE 2020

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ELECTION WAS STOLEN BY

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OVERWHELMING FRAUD.

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AND WE ALSO KNEW THIS WAS FLATLY

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FALSE.

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WE KNEW THAT DOZENS OF STATE AND

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FEDERAL JUDGES HAD ADDRESSED AND

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RESOLVED ALL MANNER OF

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ALLEGATIONS ABOUT THE ELECTION.

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OUR LEGAL SYSTEM FUNCTIONED AS

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IT SHOULD.

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BUT OUR PRESIDENT WOULD NOT

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ACCEPT THE OUTCOME.

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AMONG THE MOST SHAMEFUL OF THIS

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COMMITTEE’S FINDINGS WAS THAT

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PRESIDENT TRUMP SAT IN THE

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DINING ROOM OFF THE OVAL OFFICE

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WATCHING THE VIOLENT RIOT AT THE

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CAPITOL ON TELEVISION.

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FOR HOURS, HE WOULD NOT ISSUE A

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PUBLIC STATEMENT INSTRUCTING HIS

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SUPPORTERS TO DISPERSE AND LEAVE

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THE CAPITOL DESPITE URGENT PLEAS

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FROM WHITE HOUSE STAFF AND

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DOZENS OTHERS TO DO SO.

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MEMBERS OF HIS FAMILY, HIS WHITE

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HOUSE LAWYERS, VIRTUALLY ALL

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THOSE AROUND HIM KNEW THIS

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SIMPLE ACT WAS CRITICAL.

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FOR HOURS HE WOULD NOT DO IT.

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DURING THIS TIME, LAW

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ENFORCEMENT AGENTS WERE ATTACKED

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AND SERIOUSLY INJURED.

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THE CAPITOL WAS INVADED.

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THE ELECTORAL COUNT WAS HALTED,

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AND THE LIVES OF THOSE IN THE

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CAPITOL WERE PUT AT RISK.

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IN ADDITION TO BEING UNLAWFUL,

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AS DESCRIBED IN OUR REPORT, THIS

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WAS AN UTTER MORAL FAILURE AND A

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CLEAR DERELICTION OF DUTY.

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EVIDENCE OF THIS CAN BE SEEN IN

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THE TESTIMONY OF PRESIDENT

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TRUMP’S OWN WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL

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AND SEVERAL OTHER WHITE HOUSE

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WITNESSES.

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NO MAN WHO WOULD BEHAVE THAT WAY

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AT THAT MOMENT IN TIME CAN EVER

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SERVE IN ANY POSITION OF

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AUTHORITY IN OUR NATION AGAIN.

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HE IS UNFIT FOR ANY OFFICE.

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THE COMMITTEE RECOGNIZES THAT

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OUR WORK HAS ONLY BEGUN.

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IT’S ONLY THE INITIAL STEP IN

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ADDRESSING PRESIDENT TRUMP’S

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EFFORT TO REMAIN IN OFFICE

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ILLEGALLY.

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PROSECUTORS ARE CONSIDERING THE

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IMPLICATIONS OF THE CONDUCT THAT

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WE DESCRIBE IN OUR REPORT.

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AS ARE CITIZENS ALL ACROSS OUR

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NATION.

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IN 1761, JOHN ADAMS WROTE, THE

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VERY GROUND OF OUR LIBERTIES IS

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THE FREEDOM OF ELECTIONS.

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FAITH IN OUR ELECTIONS AND THE

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RULE OF LAW IS PARAMOUNT TO OUR

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REPUBLIC.

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ELECTION DENIERS, THOSE WHO

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REFUSE TO ACCEPT LAWFUL ELECTION

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RESULTS PURPOSELY ATTACK THE

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RULE OF LAW AND THE FOUNDATION

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OF OUR COUNTRY.

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THE HISTORY OF OUR TIME WILL

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SHOW THAT THE BRAVERY OF A

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HANDFUL OF AMERICANS DOING THEIR

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DUTY SAVED US FROM AN EVEN MORE

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GRAVE CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS.

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ELECTED OFFICIALS, ELECTION

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WORKERS AND PUBLIC SERVANTS

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STOOD ACROSS DONALD TRUMP’S

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CORRUPT PRESSURE.

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MANY OF OUR COMMITTEE’S

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WITNESSES SHOWED SELFLESS

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PATRIOTISM, AND THEIR WORDS AND

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COURAGE WILL BE REMEMBERED.

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THE BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE

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CAPITOL POLICE, THE METROPOLITAN

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POLICE, AND ALL THE OTHER LAW

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ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WHO FOUGHT

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TO DEFEND US THAT DAY SAVED

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LIVES AND OUR DEMOCRACY.

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FINALLY, I WISH TO THANK MY

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COLLEAGUES ON THIS COMMITTEE.

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IT HAS BEEN A TREMENDOUS HONOR

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TO SERVE WITH ALL OF YOU.

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WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED GREAT AND

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IMPORTANT THINGS TOGETHER, AND I

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HOPE WE HAVE SET AN EXAMPLE.

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AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK ALL OF

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THOSE WHO HAVE HONORABLY

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CONTRIBUTED TO THE WORK OF OUR

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COMMITTEE AND TO OUR REPORT.

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WE HAVE ACCOMPLISHED MUCH OVER A

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SHORT PERIOD OF TIME.

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MANY OF YOU SACRIFICED FOR THE

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GOOD OF OUR NATION.

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YOU HAVE HELPED MAKE HISTORY,

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AND I HOPE HELPED TO RIGHT THE

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SHIP.

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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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I YIELD BACK.

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>> GENTLELADY YIELDS BACK.

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AS YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR FINAL

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MEETING OF OUR COMMITTEE.

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OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST YEAR

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AND A HALF, WE PRESENTED

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EVIDENCE IN 10 PUBLIC HEARINGS,

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TESTIMONY FROM OUR BRAVE LAW

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ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS, SENIOR

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WHITE HOUSE AND CAMPAIGN

13:30.679 --> 13:32.740
OFFICIALS, AND MANY OTHERS.

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TODAY WE ARE PREPARED TO SHARE

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OUR FINAL FINDINGS WITH YOU.

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BUT BEFORE WE DO SO, IT’S

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IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER WHAT WE’VE

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LEARNED AND CRITICALLY EXACTLY

13:44.097 --> 13:46.945
WHAT HAPPENED AT THE UNITED

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STATES CAPITOL ON JANUARY 6th.

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WITHOUT OBJECTION, I INCLUDE IN

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THE RECORD A VIDEO PRESENTATION

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OF SOME OF THE KEY EVIDENCE OUR
INVESTIGATION HAS UNCOVERED.

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>> THERE WERE OFFICERS ON THE

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>> THERE WERE OFFICERS ON THE

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GROUND.

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THEY WERE BLEEDING.

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THEY WERE THROWING UP.

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I MEAN, I SAW FRIENDS WITH BLOOD

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ALL OVER THEIR FACES.

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I WAS SLIPPING IN PEOPLE’S

14:23.398 --> 14:23.862
BLOOD.

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>> AS I WAS STORMED BY A VIOLENT

14:27.076 --> 14:28.800
MOB, THEY RIPPED OFF MY BADGE,

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THEY GRABBED AND STRIPPED ME OF

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MY RADIO, THEY SEIZED AMMUNITION

14:31.961 --> 14:33.670
THAT WAS SECURED TO MY BODY.

14:33.681 --> 14:35.059
THEY BEGAN TO BEAT ME WITH THEIR

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FISTS AND WITH WHAT FELT LIKE

14:39.330 --> 14:40.631
HARD METAL OBJECTS.

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>> THE KEY THING TO DO IS TO

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CLAIM VICTORY.

14:44.012 --> 14:44.766
NO WE WON.

14:44.768 --> 14:45.050
SORRY.

14:45.052 --> 14:46.179
OVER.

14:46.190 --> 14:47.441
YOU’RE WRONG.

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>> RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX ON

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ELECTION NIGHT, THE PRESIDENT

14:53.593 --> 14:54.770
CLAIMED THAT THERE WAS MAJOR

14:54.781 --> 14:57.485
FRAUD UNDER WAY.

14:57.519 --> 15:00.569
I MEAN, THIS HAPPENED, AS FAR AS

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I COULD, BEFORE THERE WAS THE

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POTENTIAL OF LOOKING AT ANY

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EVIDENCE.

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>> I DIDN’T THINK IT WAS HONEST

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OR PROFESSIONAL AT THAT POINT IN

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TIME.

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THAT LED TO ME STEPPING AWAY.

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>> GENERALLY DISCUSSED ON THAT

15:15.303 --> 15:19.269
TOPIC WAS WHETHER THE FRAUD, NOW

15:19.304 --> 15:22.312
ADMINISTRATION, ABUSE OR

15:22.323 --> 15:23.701
IRREGULARITIES, IF AGGREGATED

15:23.712 --> 15:26.198
AND READ MOST FAVORABLY TO THE

15:26.200 --> 15:29.203
CAMPAIGN, WOULD THAT BE OUTCOME

15:29.204 --> 15:29.827
DETERMINE ACTIVE.

15:29.838 --> 15:31.306
AND I THINK EVERYONE’S

15:31.340 --> 15:33.896
ASSESSMENT IN THE ROOM, AT LEAST

15:33.907 --> 15:36.098
AMONG THE SOUTH, MYSELF AND

15:36.132 --> 15:37.582
GRANT JACOB, WAS IT WAS NOT

15:37.593 --> 15:38.826
SUFFICIENT TO BE OUTCOME

15:38.860 --> 15:39.591
DETERMINANT.

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>> I TOLD HIM THAT I DID

15:43.125 --> 15:47.537
BELIEVE, YES, THAT ONCE THOSE

15:47.548 --> 15:50.000
LEGAL PROCESSES WERE RUN, IF

15:50.034 --> 15:51.842
FRAUD HAD NOT BEEN ESTABLISHED,

15:51.843 --> 15:54.078
IT COULD AFFECT THE OUTCOME OF

15:54.089 --> 15:54.882
THE ELECTION.

15:54.893 --> 15:56.293
FORTUNATELY, I BELIEVE WHAT HAD

15:56.326 --> 15:58.692
TO BE DONE IS CONCEDE THE

15:58.703 --> 15:59.344
OUTCOME.

15:59.345 --> 16:02.130
>> WHAT WERE THE CHANCES OF

16:02.141 --> 16:03.294
PRESIDENT TRUMP WINNING THE

16:03.328 --> 16:03.543
ELECTION?

16:03.554 --> 16:04.156
>> AFTER THAT POINT?

16:04.190 --> 16:05.236
>> YES.

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>> NONE.

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>> SO WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO

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BECAUSE I ONLY NEED 11,000

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VOTES.

16:11.395 --> 16:12.828
FELLAS, I NEED 11,000 VOTES.

16:12.839 --> 16:14.141
GIVE ME A BREAK.

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>> THE NUMBERS ARE THE NUMBERS.

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THE NUMBERS DON’T LIE.

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WE HAD MANY ALLEGATIONS AND WE

16:18.452 --> 16:19.211
INVESTIGATED EVERY SINGLE ONE OF

16:19.213 --> 16:19.377
THEM.

16:19.411 --> 16:22.752
>> DID ONE OF THEM MAKE A

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COMMENT THAT THEY DIDN’T HAVE

16:24.272 --> 16:25.569
EVIDENCE BUT THEY HAD A LOT OF

16:25.602 --> 16:26.076
THEORIES?

16:26.087 --> 16:28.426
>> THAT WAS MR. GIULIANI.

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>> AND WHAT EXACTLY DID HE SAY

16:30.509 --> 16:32.138
AND HOW DID THAT COME UP?

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>> MY RECOLLECTION, HE SAID WE

16:33.830 --> 16:35.025
HAVE LOTS OF THEORIES, WE JUST

16:35.036 --> 16:36.352
DON’T HAVE THE EVIDENCE.

16:36.386 --> 16:38.533
YOU’RE ASKING ME TO DO SOMETHING

16:38.544 --> 16:41.446
THAT’S NEVER BEEN DONE IN

16:41.457 --> 16:43.225
HISTORY, THE HISTORY OF THE

16:43.259 --> 16:45.124
UNITED STATES.

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AND I’M GOING TO PUT MY STATE

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THROUGH THAT WITHOUT SUFFICIENT

16:53.095 --> 16:53.804
PROOF?

16:53.815 --> 16:58.666
>> A TAPE EARLIER IN THE DAY OF

16:58.677 --> 17:02.069
RUBY FREEMAN AND SHEA FREEMAN

17:02.080 --> 17:04.664
MAUS SURREPTITIOUSLY PAUSING

17:04.675 --> 17:08.027
AROUND USB PORTS INSISTING THEY
WERE VIALS OF COCAINE.

17:08.038 --> 17:09.582
WERE VIALS OF COCAINE.

17:09.593 --> 17:13.479
>> WE WATCHED MR. GIULIANI

17:13.480 --> 17:15.819
ACCUSING YOU OF PASSING A USB

17:15.830 --> 17:17.358
DRIVE TO EACH OTHER.

17:17.369 --> 17:18.974
WHAT WAS YOUR MOM HANDING YOU ON

17:18.985 --> 17:20.758
THAT VIDEO.

17:20.769 --> 17:23.535
>> A GINGER MINT.

17:23.546 --> 17:28.249
>> DO YOU KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO

17:28.260 --> 17:31.077
HAVE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

17:31.088 --> 17:31.827
STATES TARGET YOU?

17:31.838 --> 17:34.767
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

17:34.801 --> 17:38.245
STATES IS SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT

17:38.247 --> 17:40.749
EVERY AMERICAN.

17:40.760 --> 17:42.540
NOT TO TARGET ONE.

17:42.551 --> 17:46.803
>> I MADE IT CLEAR I DID NOT

17:46.814 --> 17:48.530
AGREE WITH THE OF SAYING THE

17:48.564 --> 17:50.760
ELECTION WAS STOLEN AND PUTTING

17:50.771 --> 17:53.142
OUT THIS STUFF, WHICH I TOLD THE

17:53.175 --> 17:53.984
PRESIDENT WAS BULLSHIT.

17:53.995 --> 17:55.658
>> HE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE

17:55.659 --> 17:57.239
FACT THAT HE THOUGHT THE

17:57.240 --> 17:59.264
ELECTION HAD BEEN STOLEN OR WAS

17:59.275 --> 18:00.361
CORRUPT AND THAT THERE WAS

18:00.372 --> 18:01.569
WIDESPREAD FRAUD.

18:01.580 --> 18:03.994
AND I HAD TOLD HIM THAT OUR

18:04.027 --> 18:06.019
REVIEWS HAD HAD NOT SHOWN THAT

18:06.030 --> 18:07.025
TO BE THE CASE.

18:07.026 --> 18:09.751
>> AND I SAID SOMETHING TO THE

18:09.762 --> 18:12.105
EFFECT OF, SIR, WE HAVE DONE

18:12.116 --> 18:13.396
DOZENS OF INVESTIGATIONS,

18:13.430 --> 18:14.591
HUNDREDS OF INTERVIEWS.

18:14.602 --> 18:16.052
IT IS NOT SUPPORTED BY THE

18:16.063 --> 18:16.991
EVIDENCE DEVELOPED.

18:17.002 --> 18:19.330
>> THERE WELL, MY FIRST THOUGHT

18:19.341 --> 18:21.310
WAS THIS IS A TERRIBLE IDEA.

18:21.321 --> 18:23.271
JEFF CLARK CANNOT BE INSTALLED

18:23.306 --> 18:24.456
AS ACTING ATTORNEY GENERAL OF

18:24.467 --> 18:25.882
THE UNITED STATES.

18:25.893 --> 18:29.791
>> YOU ULTIMATELY TOLD US THAT

18:29.802 --> 18:34.685
YOU DESCRIBED THIS BEING -- AT

18:34.686 --> 18:38.373
THIS MEETING THAT GEORGE IT IS

18:38.408 --> 18:39.652
AN EFFING MURDER-SUICIDE.

18:39.653 --> 18:41.222
DO YOU REMEMBER USING THAT TERM,

18:41.233 --> 18:42.483
MURDER-SUICIDE?

18:42.484 --> 18:43.811
>> YES.

18:43.845 --> 18:47.854
>> WAS IT YOUR IMPRESSION THAT

18:47.865 --> 18:50.528
THE VICE PRESIDENT HAD DIRECTLY

18:50.539 --> 18:52.083
CONVEYED HIS POSITION ON THESE

18:52.117 --> 18:53.814
ISSUES TO THE PRESIDENT NOT JUST

18:53.825 --> 18:55.910
THROUGH THE WORLD ON A DEAR

18:55.945 --> 18:57.131
COLLEAGUE LETTER BUT DIRECTLY TO

18:57.142 --> 18:57.649
PRESIDENT TRUMP?

18:57.660 --> 18:58.660
>> MANY TIMES.

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>> MY VIEW IS THE VICE PRESIDENT

19:01.680 --> 19:03.581
DIDN’T HAVE THE LEGAL AUTHORITY

19:03.614 --> 19:04.903
TO DO ANYTHING EXCEPT WHAT HE

19:04.914 --> 19:05.215
DID.

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>> AND I SAID HOLD ON A SECOND.

19:07.089 --> 19:08.045
I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU’RE

19:08.079 --> 19:08.863
SAYING.

19:08.874 --> 19:11.656
YOU’RE SAYING THAT YOU BELIEVE

19:11.667 --> 19:13.676
THE VICE PRESIDENT ACTING AS

19:13.687 --> 19:15.895
PRESIDENT OF THE SENATE CAN BE

19:15.930 --> 19:18.711
THE SOLE DECISION MAKER, TO YOUR

19:18.712 --> 19:19.941
THEORY, WHO BECOMES THE NEXT

19:19.952 --> 19:20.808
FROM PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

19:20.819 --> 19:21.681
STATES?

19:21.715 --> 19:23.755
AND HE SAID YES.

19:23.757 --> 19:25.864
I SAID ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR

19:25.875 --> 19:27.223
EFFING MIND?

19:27.234 --> 19:30.651
>> THE PRESIDENT WAS -- ALL THE

19:30.685 --> 19:33.519
INTENTION WAS ON WHAT MIKE WOULD

19:33.530 --> 19:35.537
DO OR WHAT MIKE WOULDN’T DO.

19:35.548 --> 19:36.764
THERE IS A TELEPHONE

19:36.799 --> 19:37.542
CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE

19:37.553 --> 19:38.322
PRESIDENT AND THE VICE

19:38.333 --> 19:38.885
PRESIDENT; IS THAT CORRECT?

19:38.919 --> 19:39.839
>> YES.

19:39.840 --> 19:41.846
>> THE CONVERSATION WAS, WAS

19:41.857 --> 19:43.948
PRETTY HEATED.

19:43.949 --> 19:47.175
>> I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING

19:47.176 --> 19:47.635
IMPOLITE

19:47.636 --> 19:47.997
IMPOLITE.

19:47.999 --> 19:49.582
DO YOU RECALL WHAT SHE SAID HER

19:49.593 --> 19:50.922
FATHER CALLED HIM?

19:50.933 --> 19:52.710
>> THE P-WORD.

19:52.721 --> 19:55.784
>> IT WAS CLEAR THAT IT WAS

19:55.818 --> 19:56.656
ESCALATING AND ESCALATING

19:56.667 --> 19:57.636
QUICKLY.

19:57.637 --> 20:01.579
>> HANG MIKE PENCE!
>> SO WHEN THAT MIKE PENCE TWEET

20:01.580 --> 20:03.468
>> SO WHEN THAT MIKE PENCE TWEET

20:03.470 --> 20:07.238
WAS SENT OUT, I REMEMBER US

20:07.249 --> 20:09.497
SAYING THAT WAS THE LAST THING

20:09.498 --> 20:11.021
THAT NEEDED TO BE TWEETED AT
THAT MOMENT.

20:11.022 --> 20:12.071
THAT MOMENT.

20:12.106 --> 20:17.354
IT SEEMED LIKE POURING GASOLINE

20:17.356 --> 20:19.033
ON THE FIRE.

20:19.044 --> 20:21.062
>> THEY GAINED ACCESS TO THE

20:21.063 --> 20:21.971
SECOND FLOOR.

20:21.972 --> 20:25.494
>> SECOND FLOOR, MOVING IN NOW.

20:25.505 --> 20:27.205
WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER GETTING

20:27.239 --> 20:29.897
OUT AND LEAVING NOW.

20:29.908 --> 20:30.598
COPY.

20:30.609 --> 20:34.113
>> MEMBERS OF THE ARE STARTING

20:34.124 --> 20:36.423
TO FEAR FOR THEIR OWN LIVES.

20:36.457 --> 20:38.302
THEY WERE SAYING GOOD-BYE TO

20:38.313 --> 20:38.921
FAMILY MEMBERS.

20:38.932 --> 20:40.068
>> APPROXIMATELY 40 FEET.

20:40.079 --> 20:41.827
THAT’S ALL THERE IS.

20:41.861 --> 20:43.656
40 FEET BETWEEN THE VICE

20:43.667 --> 20:45.766
PRESIDENT AND THE MOB.

20:45.777 --> 20:48.855
>> DONALD TRUMP AND HIS ALLIES

20:48.889 --> 20:51.095
AND SUPPORTERS ARE A CLEAR AND
PRESENT DANGER TO AMERICAN

20:51.096 --> 20:57.392
PRESENT DANGER TO AMERICAN

20:57.403 --> 21:00.555
DEMOCRACY.

21:00.589 --> 21:09.430
>> THEY WERE ORGANIZING TO COME

21:09.441 --> 21:10.499
TO D.C.

21:10.532 --> 21:13.863
>> AS WE WERE WALKING TO OUR

21:13.864 --> 21:15.181
VEHICLES THAT EVENING, HE LOOKED

21:15.192 --> 21:17.313
AT ME AND SAID SOMETHING TO THE

21:17.347 --> 21:18.571
FACT OF, CASS, ARE YOU EXCITED

21:18.582 --> 21:19.468
FOR THE 6th?

21:19.479 --> 21:22.631
IT’S GOING TO BE A GREAT DAY.

21:22.642 --> 21:24.924
I REMEMBER LOOKING AT HIM AND

21:24.935 --> 21:26.933
SAYING, RUDY, EXPLAIN WHAT’S

21:26.967 --> 21:28.382
HAPPENING ON THE 6th.

21:28.383 --> 21:29.511
AND HE SAID RESPONDED SOMETHING

21:29.512 --> 21:30.874
TO THE FACT OF WE’RE GOING TO

21:30.875 --> 21:31.420
THE CAPITOL.

21:31.422 --> 21:32.630
IT’S GOING TO BE GREAT.

21:32.641 --> 21:33.671
THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO BE
THERE.

21:33.672 --> 21:38.294
HE’S GOING TO LOOK POWERFUL.

21:38.305 --> 21:42.289
>> HE PERSONALLY ASKED US TO

21:42.322 --> 21:44.162
COME TO D.C. THAT DAY.

21:44.163 --> 21:46.036
AND I THOUGHT FOR EVERYTHING

21:46.047 --> 21:48.277
HE’S DONE FOR US, IF THIS IS THE

21:48.312 --> 21:49.683
ONLY THING HE’S GOING TO ASK OF

21:49.694 --> 21:52.482
ME, I’LL DO IT.

21:52.483 --> 21:54.600
>> WELL, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW,

21:54.611 --> 21:56.202
THE PRESIDENT GOT EVERYBODY

21:56.235 --> 21:57.877
RILED UP, TOLD EVERYBODY TO HEAD

21:57.888 --> 21:58.677
ON DOWN.

21:58.711 --> 22:04.808
SO WE BASICALLY JUST FOLLOWED

22:04.810 --> 22:06.288
WHAT HE SAID.

22:06.299 --> 22:09.844
>> WE’VE LOST A LIFE.

22:09.855 --> 22:11.944
WE’VE LOST A LIFE.

22:11.978 --> 22:15.500
>> WITHIN 15 MINUTES OF LEAVING

22:15.511 --> 22:17.626
THE STAGE, PRESIDENT TRUMP KNEW

22:17.660 --> 22:19.053
THAT THE CAPITOL WAS BESIEGED

22:19.064 --> 22:20.631
AND UNDER ATTACK.

22:20.664 --> 22:22.829
>> SO ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY PHONE

22:22.840 --> 22:23.923
CALL BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE

22:23.934 --> 22:25.403
UNITED STATES TO THE SECRETARY

22:25.437 --> 22:26.932
OF DEFENSE THAT DAY?

22:26.943 --> 22:28.856
>> NOT THAT I’M AWARE OF, NO.

22:28.867 --> 22:30.674
>> ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY PHONE

22:30.685 --> 22:31.742
CALL BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE

22:31.753 --> 22:32.484
UNITED STATES TO THE ATTORNEY

22:32.495 --> 22:33.109
GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES

22:33.143 --> 22:34.136
THAT DAY?

22:34.137 --> 22:34.829
>> NO.

22:34.840 --> 22:37.161
>> ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY PHONE

22:37.172 --> 22:38.417
CALL BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE

22:38.419 --> 22:39.698
UNITED STATES TO THE SECRETARY

22:39.700 --> 22:42.139
OF HOMELAND SECURITY THAT DAY?

22:42.150 --> 22:44.511
>> I AM NOT AWARE OF THAT, NO.

22:44.545 --> 22:46.647
>> DID YOU EVER HEAR THE VICE

22:46.658 --> 22:48.427
PRESIDENT -- OR THE PRESIDENT

22:48.428 --> 22:48.885
ASK --

22:48.919 --> 22:49.507
>> NO.

22:49.518 --> 22:50.607
>> DID YOU EVER HEAR THE

22:50.618 --> 22:54.808
PRESIDENT ASK FOR LAW

22:54.841 --> 22:56.619
ENFORCEMENT RESPONSE?

22:56.630 --> 22:57.427
>> NO.

22:57.461 --> 22:58.881
>> YOU’VE GOT AN ASSAULT ON THE

22:58.882 --> 23:00.438
COP TAL OF THE UNITED STATES OF

23:00.449 --> 23:02.111
AMERICA.

23:02.122 --> 23:04.229
AND THERE’S NOTHING?

23:04.262 --> 23:05.080
NO CALL?

23:05.091 --> 23:06.909
NOTHING?

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ZERO?

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>> HANG MIKE PENCE.

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>> I REMEMBER PAT SAYING

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SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF,

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MARK, WITH HE NEED TO DO

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SOMETHING MORE.

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THEY’RE LITERALLY CALLING FOR

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THE VICE PRESIDENT’S TO BE

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EFFING HUNG.

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AND MARK HAD RESPONDED SOMETHING

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TO THE EFFECT OF, YOU HEARD IT,

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PAT.

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HE THINK MIKE DESERVES IT.

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HE DOESN’T THINK THEY’RE DOING

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ANYTHING WRONG.

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>> YOU OR THE STAFF DID NOT WANT

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PEOPLE TO LEAVE THE CAPITOL?

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>> SOME ON THE STAFF?

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>> IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

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>> I -- I CAN’T THINK OF

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ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, ON THAT DAY

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WHO DIDN’T WANT PEOPLE TO GET

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OUT OF THE CAPITOL ONCE THE

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VIOLENCE STARTED.
NO.

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I MEAN, --

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>> WHAT ABOUT THE PRESIDENT?

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>> YEAH.

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>> WELL, SHE SAID THE STAFF.

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SO I ANSWERED.

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>> I SAID IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

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>> I’M SORRY.

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I APOLOGIZE.
I THOUGHT YOU SAID WHO ELSE ON

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I THOUGHT YOU SAID WHO ELSE ON

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THE STAFF.
I CAN’T REVEAL COMMUNICATIONS.

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I CAN’T REVEAL COMMUNICATIONS.

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BUT OBVIOUSLY I THINK, YOU KNOW,

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KNOW -- YEAH.

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>> I SAID, GOOD, JOHN.

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NOW I’M GOING TO GIVE YOU THE

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BEST FREE LEGAL ADVICE YOU’RE

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EVER GETTING IN YOUR LIFE.

24:46.588 --> 24:48.156
GET A GREAT EFFING CRIMINAL

24:48.189 --> 24:49.217
DEFENSE LAWYER.

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YOU’RE GOING TO NEED IT.

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>> GENERAL FLYNN, DO YOU BELIEVE

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IN THE PEACEFUL TRANSFER OF

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POWER IN THE UNITED STATES OF

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AMERICA?

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>> YES.

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>> WE’VE GOT ANOTHER OFFICER
UNCONSCIOUS.

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AT THE TERRACE, WEST TERRACE.

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>> I DON’T WANT TO SAY THE

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ELECTION IS OVER.

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I JUST WANT TO SAY CONGRESS HAS

25:22.451 --> 25:23.283
CERTIFIED THE RESULTS WITHOUT

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SAYING THE ELECTION IS OVER.

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OKAY.

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>> THE CHAIR NOW RECOGNIZES THE

25:33.811 --> 25:35.596
GENTLEWOMAN FROM CALIFORNIA,

25:35.630 --> 25:37.305
MISS LOFGREN, FOR AN OPENING

25:37.316 --> 25:37.907
STATEMENT.

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>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS, THE

25:44.387 --> 25:46.305
SELECT COMMITTEE HAS CONDUCTED A

25:46.316 --> 25:47.163
CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATION OF

25:47.197 --> 25:50.188
ENORMOUS SCALE SEEKING TO

25:50.189 --> 25:52.651
UNCOVER THE DEPTH AND BREADTH OF

25:52.652 --> 25:54.443
EX-PRESIDENT TRUMP’S MULTI-PART

25:54.444 --> 25:56.207
PLAN TO REVERSE THE LAWFUL

25:56.218 --> 25:57.624
OUTCOME OF THE MANY 2020

25:57.658 --> 25:59.136
PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

25:59.147 --> 26:02.087
WE’VE COMPILED AN IMMENSE VOLUME

26:02.098 --> 26:03.600
OF DOCUMENTS COLLECTED FROM

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COUNTLESS INDIVIDUALS, LAW

26:04.924 --> 26:06.778
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, AND

26:06.812 --> 26:08.930
FEDERAL AND STATE AUTHORITIES.

26:08.931 --> 26:11.686
MANY OF OUR EFFORTS TO GET THE

26:11.697 --> 26:14.438
EVIDENCE REQUIRED LITIGATION IN

26:14.449 --> 26:15.813
FEDERAL COURT, INCLUDING THE

26:15.846 --> 26:16.524
U.S. SUPREME COURT.

26:16.525 --> 26:18.465
WE’VE TAKEN THE TESTIMONY OF

26:18.476 --> 26:19.625
HUNDREDS OF WITNESSES.

26:19.636 --> 26:21.504
AND WHILE WE COULDN’T SHOW THEM

26:21.515 --> 26:23.724
ALL DURING THE HEARINGS, WE

26:23.735 --> 26:26.071
FOCUSED ON THOSE WHO ARE MOST

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CENTRAL, INCLUDING OUR

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EX-PRESIDENT’S WHITE HOUSE

26:28.744 --> 26:30.254
AIDES, HIS SENIOR DEPARTMENT OF

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JUSTICE OFFICIALS, AND SENIOR

26:32.961 --> 26:35.095
MEMBERS OF HIS CAMPAIGN.

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BASED ON THIS ASSEMBLED

26:36.889 --> 26:39.255
EVIDENCE, THE SELECT COMMITTEE

26:39.266 --> 26:41.220
HAS REACHED A SERIES OF SPECIFIC

26:41.253 --> 26:41.832
FINDINGS.

26:41.843 --> 26:44.486
MANY OF THESE FINDINGS PERTAIN

26:44.497 --> 26:46.448
TO WHAT HAS BEEN CALLED THE BIG

26:46.482 --> 26:47.273
LIE.

26:47.284 --> 26:50.080
THE ENORMOUS EFFORT LED BY EX

26:50.091 --> 26:52.968
PRESIDENT TRUMP TO SPREAD

26:52.979 --> 26:54.688
BASELESS ACCUSATIONS AND

26:54.699 --> 26:57.032
MISINFORMATION IN AN ATTEMPT TO

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FALSELY CONVINCE TENS OF

26:58.626 --> 26:59.733
MILLIONS OF AMERICANS THAT THE

26:59.744 --> 27:02.334
ELECTION HAD BEEN STOLEN FROM

27:02.345 --> 27:03.077
HIM.

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BEGINNING EVEN BEFORE THE

27:04.867 --> 27:08.429
ELECTION AND CONTINUING THROUGH

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JANUARY 6th AND THEREAFTER,

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DONALD TRUMP PURPOSELY

27:13.249 --> 27:14.126
DISSEMINATED FALSE ALLEGATIONS

27:14.127 --> 27:17.722
OF FRAUD IN ORDER TO AID HISSEST

27:17.733 --> 27:20.096
TO OVERTURN THE 2020 ELECTION.

27:20.107 --> 27:22.692
EX-PRESIDENT TRUMP’S DECISION TO

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KHRE CLAIRE VICTORY FALSELY ON

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ELECTION NIGHT WASN’T A

27:26.329 --> 27:27.225
SPONTANEOUS DECISION.

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IT WAS PREMEDITATED.

27:28.662 --> 27:31.022
THE COMMITTEE HAS EVIDENCE THAT

27:31.023 --> 27:32.732
EX-PRESIDENT TRUMP PLANNED TO

27:32.743 --> 27:33.946
DECLARE VICTORY AND UNLAWFULLY

27:33.957 --> 27:37.047
TO CALL FOR THE VOTE COUNT TO GO

27:37.081 --> 27:38.377
STOP AND THAT HE TOLD NUMEROUS

27:38.388 --> 27:40.819
ALLIES ABOUT HIS INTENT IN THE

27:40.830 --> 27:42.655
WEEKS BEFORE THE ELECTION.

27:42.666 --> 27:46.129
THE COMMITTEE FOUND THAT MR.

27:46.164 --> 27:47.478
TRUMP RAISED HUNDREDS OF

27:47.489 --> 27:49.296
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WITH FALSE

27:49.329 --> 27:51.045
REPRESENTATIONS MADE TO HIS

27:51.056 --> 27:52.195
ONLINE DONORS.

27:52.206 --> 27:54.942
THE PROCEEDS FROM HIS

27:54.953 --> 27:56.556
FUND-RAISING, WE HAVE LEARNED,

27:56.590 --> 27:59.274
HAVE BEEN USED IN WAYS THAT WE

27:59.285 --> 28:00.263
BELIEVE ARE CONCERNING.

28:00.274 --> 28:03.093
IN PARTICULAR, THE COMMITTEE HAS

28:03.104 --> 28:05.041
LEARNED SOME OF THOSE FUNDS WERE

28:05.052 --> 28:07.033
USED TO HIRE LAWYERS.

28:07.044 --> 28:08.615
WE HAVE ALSO OBTAINED EFFORTS TO

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PROVIDE OR OFFER EMPLOYMENT TO

28:09.579 --> 28:10.609
WITNESSES.

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FOR EXAMPLE, ONE LAWYER TOLD A

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WITNESS THE WITNESS COULD, IN

28:17.485 --> 28:18.682
CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, TELL THE

28:18.683 --> 28:19.472
COMMITTEE DIDN’T RECALL FACTS

28:19.483 --> 28:22.080
WHEN SHE ACTUALLY DID RECALL

28:22.091 --> 28:22.946
THEM.

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THAT LAWYER ALSO DID NOT

28:25.865 --> 28:28.045
DISCLOSE WHO WAS PAYING FOR THE

28:28.046 --> 28:28.742
LAWYER’S REPRESENTATION DESPITE

28:28.753 --> 28:30.906
QUESTIONS FROM THE CLIENT

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SEEKING THAT INFORMATION.

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HE TOLD HER, QUOTE, WE’RE NOT

28:33.981 --> 28:36.245
TELLING PEOPLE WHERE FUNDING IS

28:36.256 --> 28:38.110
COMING FROM RIGHT NOW.

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WE’VE LEARNED THAT A CLIENT WAS

28:40.432 --> 28:41.944
OFFERED POTENTIAL EMPLOYMENT

28:41.945 --> 28:44.275
THAT WOULD MAKE HER, QUOTE,

28:44.276 --> 28:46.101
FINANCIALLY VERY COMFORTABLE AS

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THE DATE OF HER TESTIMONY

28:47.953 --> 28:49.066
APPROACHED BY ENTITIES THAT WERE

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APPARENTLY LINKED TO DONALD

28:51.733 --> 28:53.929
TRUMP AND HIS ASSOCIATES.

28:53.940 --> 28:56.116
THESE OFFERS WERE WITHDRAWN OR

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DIDN’T MATERIALIZE AS REPORTS OF

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THE CONTENT OF HER TESTIMONY

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CIRCULATED.

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THE WITNESS BELIEVED THIS WAS AN

29:04.722 --> 29:06.316
EFFORT TO EFFECT HER TESTIMONY.

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AND WE ARE CONCERNED THESE

29:07.601 --> 29:09.095
EFFORTS MAY HAVE BEEN A STRATEGY

29:09.106 --> 29:11.810
TO PREVENT THE COMMITTEE FROM

29:11.821 --> 29:14.467
FINDING THE TRUTH.

29:14.478 --> 29:15.934
THROUGHOUT THE POST-ELECTION

29:15.969 --> 29:18.803
PERIOD, EX-PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS

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TOLD REPEATEDLY BY HIS CAMPAIGN

29:20.938 --> 29:22.141
ADVISERS, GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS

29:22.142 --> 29:23.429
AND OTHERS THERE WAS NO EVIDENCE

29:23.440 --> 29:26.577
TO SUPPORT HIS CLAIMS OF

29:26.588 --> 29:27.639
ELECTION FRAUD.

29:27.673 --> 29:29.948
EVEN SINCE OUR LAST HEARING, THE

29:29.959 --> 29:31.371
SELECT COMMITTEE HAS OBTAINED

29:31.405 --> 29:32.906
TESTIMONY FROM NEW WITNESSES WHO

29:32.917 --> 29:35.874
HAVE COME FORWARD TO TELL US

29:35.907 --> 29:37.243
ABOUT THEIR CONVERSATIONS WITH

29:37.254 --> 29:38.080
EX-PRESIDENT TRUMP ON THIS

29:38.091 --> 29:38.631
TOPIC.

29:38.642 --> 29:45.758
HERE IS ONE OF HIS SENIOR

29:45.792 --> 29:48.383
ADVISERS HOPE HICKS.

29:48.384 --> 29:51.767
>> -- EVIDENCE OF FRAUD ON A

29:51.768 --> 29:53.341
SCALE THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN

29:53.352 --> 29:54.375
IMPACTED THE OUTCOME OF THE

29:54.409 --> 29:55.686
ELECTION.

29:55.687 --> 30:00.342
AND I WAS BECOMING INCREASINGLY

30:00.353 --> 30:02.495
CONCERNED THAT WE WERE

30:02.506 --> 30:04.294
DAMAGING -- WE WERE DAMAGING HIS

30:04.305 --> 30:04.612
LEGACY.

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>> WHAT DID THE PRESIDENT SAY IN

30:05.906 --> 30:08.620
RESPONSE TO WHAT YOU JUST

30:08.654 --> 30:09.729
DESCRIBED?

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>> HE SAID SOMETHING ALONG THE
LINES OF, YOU KNOW, NOBODY WILL

30:15.766 --> 30:18.906
LINES OF, YOU KNOW, NOBODY WILL

30:18.917 --> 30:26.259
CARE ABOUT MY LEGACY IF I LOSE.

30:26.270 --> 30:27.924
THAT WON’T PARTY.

30:27.958 --> 30:29.783
THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS

30:29.794 --> 30:30.361
WINNING.

30:30.372 --> 30:33.347
>> DESPITE ALL THAT, HE

30:33.358 --> 30:35.122
CONTINUES TO PURPOSELY AND

30:35.133 --> 30:36.487
MALICIOUSLY MAKE FALSE CLAIMS

30:36.498 --> 30:38.034
SOMETIMES WITHIN A DAY OF BEING

30:38.045 --> 30:38.909
TOLD A PARTICULAR CLAIM WAS

30:38.920 --> 30:40.621
FALSE AND UNSUPPORTED BY THE

30:40.654 --> 30:41.426
EVIDENCE.

30:41.437 --> 30:44.295
BY THE TIME THE ELECTORAL

30:44.329 --> 30:47.831
COLLEGE MET TO CAST HIS VOTES ON

30:47.832 --> 30:50.533
DECEMBER 14th, 2020, A NUMBER OF

30:50.534 --> 30:52.166
PRESIDENT TRUMP’S SENIOR STAFF,

30:52.177 --> 30:53.840
CABINET OFFICIALS AND MEMBERS OF

30:53.874 --> 30:55.538
HIS FAMILY WERE URGING HIM TO

30:55.549 --> 30:57.823
FACILITATE A PEACEFUL TRANSITION

30:57.834 --> 30:59.501
TO THE INCOMING ADMINISTRATION.

30:59.535 --> 31:02.043
HE DISREGARDED THEIR ADVICE, AND

31:02.054 --> 31:03.316
HE CONTINUED TO CLAIM PUBLICLY

31:03.350 --> 31:05.981
THAT THE ELECTION HAD BEEN

31:05.992 --> 31:07.157
STOLEN FROM HIM.

31:07.168 --> 31:09.526
NUMEROUS STATE AND FEDERAL

31:09.537 --> 31:12.021
COURTS EVALUATED AND REJECTED

31:12.032 --> 31:14.450
THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN’S CLAIMS OF

31:14.484 --> 31:16.671
VOTER FRAUD, INCLUDING 11 JUDGES

31:16.682 --> 31:18.225
APPOINTED BY EX-PRESIDENT TRUMP

31:18.236 --> 31:18.929
HIMSELF.

31:18.963 --> 31:21.467
MANY OF THESE COURTS ISSUED

31:21.478 --> 31:23.437
SCATHING OPINIONS, CRITICIZEDING

31:23.470 --> 31:25.827
THE LACK OF EVIDENCE THAT

31:25.828 --> 31:27.085
EX-PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HIS

31:27.086 --> 31:28.657
ALLIES HAD ADVANCED TO SUPPORT

31:28.659 --> 31:29.581
THEIR CLAIMS.

31:29.582 --> 31:30.932
NUMEROUS INDIVIDUALS ASSOCIATED

31:30.943 --> 31:32.752
WITH THESE EFFORTS HAVE SENSE

31:32.753 --> 31:34.115
ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THEY WERE

31:34.126 --> 31:35.633
UNABLE TO FIND SUFFICIENT

31:35.644 --> 31:38.238
EVIDENCE OF FRAUD TO EFFECT THE

31:38.249 --> 31:40.619
ELECTION RESULTS, INCLUDING IN

31:40.630 --> 31:42.279
TESTIMONY TO THIS SELECT

31:42.280 --> 31:43.576
COMMITTEE.

31:43.578 --> 31:45.439
STILL, EX-PRESIDENT TRUMP

31:45.440 --> 31:47.407
REPEATED THOSE FALSE CLAIMS AND

31:47.409 --> 31:49.459
TRIED TO CONVINCE HIS SUPPORTERS

31:49.470 --> 31:52.076
THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN.

31:52.077 --> 31:54.934
THIS WAS AN ATTEMPT TO JUSTIFY

31:54.945 --> 31:56.080
OVERTURNING THE LAWFUL ELECTION

31:56.091 --> 31:56.562
RESULTS.

31:56.573 --> 31:58.694
DONALD TRUMP KNOWINGLY AND

31:58.705 --> 32:00.605
CORRUPTLY REPEATED ELECTION

32:00.616 --> 32:02.194
FRAUD LIES WHICH INCITED HIS

32:02.205 --> 32:04.251
SUPPORTERS TO VIOLENCE ON

32:04.262 --> 32:05.824
JANUARY 6th.

32:05.858 --> 32:07.887
HE CONTINUES TO REPEAT HIS

32:07.898 --> 32:09.539
MERITLESS CLAIM THAT THE

32:09.550 --> 32:12.905
ELECTION WAS STOLEN EVEN TODAY

32:12.939 --> 32:14.868
AND CONTINUES TO ERODE OUR MOST

32:14.879 --> 32:16.637
CHERISHED AND SHARED BELIEF IN

32:16.648 --> 32:19.259
FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS.

32:19.293 --> 32:21.804
MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD BACK.

32:21.805 --> 32:23.716
>> THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK.

32:23.727 --> 32:26.342
THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE

32:26.353 --> 32:28.552
GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR.

32:28.563 --> 32:29.870
SCHIFF, FOR AN OPENING

32:29.905 --> 32:30.370
STATEMENT.

32:30.371 --> 32:32.312
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

32:32.323 --> 32:33.522
BUILDING ON HIS CONSTANT

32:33.523 --> 32:35.813
REPETITION OF THE BIG LIE,

32:35.824 --> 32:37.923
PRESIDENT TRUMP ENGAGED IN AN

32:37.934 --> 32:39.048
UNPRECEDENTED EFFORT TO OBSTRUCT

32:39.081 --> 32:40.047
THE JOINT SESSION ON JANUARY

32:40.048 --> 32:40.559
6th.

32:40.570 --> 32:41.633
THE PROCEEDING WHERE HIS

32:41.644 --> 32:43.552
ELECTORAL LOSS WOULD BE

32:43.563 --> 32:46.064
CERTIFIED BY CONGRESS.

32:46.075 --> 32:49.166
THISSEST BEGAN IN PART IN A

32:49.200 --> 32:51.635
STATES WHICH HOLD COUNT AND

32:51.646 --> 32:52.978
ULTIMATELY DETERMINE THE WINNERS

32:52.989 --> 32:53.931
OF PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS.

32:53.964 --> 32:54.915
MANY STATE OFFICIALS WERE

32:54.926 --> 32:56.176
TARGETED BY PRESIDENT TRUMP AND

32:56.211 --> 32:57.671
HIS CAMPAIGN.

32:57.672 --> 33:00.204
THE LOCAL ELECTION WORKERS, HE

33:00.215 --> 33:01.477
ACCUSED BASELESSLY OF ELECTION

33:01.511 --> 33:02.984
FRAUD, THE STATE OFFICIALS HE

33:02.985 --> 33:04.831
PRESSURED TO STOP THE COUNT OR

33:04.842 --> 33:06.754
TO FIND VOTES THAT DIDN’T EXIST,

33:06.765 --> 33:08.299
AND THE STATE LEGISLATIVE

33:08.310 --> 33:09.924
OFFICIALS HE URGED TO DISREGARD

33:09.935 --> 33:11.820
THE POPULAR WILL OF THE VOTERS

33:11.831 --> 33:13.097
AND THEIR OATH OF OFFICE IN

33:13.108 --> 33:15.596
ORDER TO NAME HIM THE WINNER

33:15.607 --> 33:16.418
INSTEAD.

33:16.452 --> 33:18.831
HERE ARE THE SELECT COMMITTEE

33:18.833 --> 33:21.310
FINDINGS ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP’S

33:21.321 --> 33:23.066
STATE PRESSURE CAMPAIGN.

33:23.068 --> 33:25.110
PRESIDENT TRUMP AND HIS ENABLERS

33:25.111 --> 33:26.009
REPEATEDLY PRESSURED STATE

33:26.043 --> 33:26.976
OFFICIALS TO TAKE ACTION TO

33:26.987 --> 33:29.448
OVERTURN THE RESULTS OF THE

33:29.482 --> 33:30.152
ELECTION.

33:30.153 --> 33:33.240
THE MOST DRAMATIC EXAMPLE OF

33:33.251 --> 33:35.658
THIS CAMPAIGN OF COERCION WAS

33:35.669 --> 33:38.583
THE PRESIDENT’S JANUARY 2nd,

33:38.584 --> 33:40.299
2021 CALL TO GEORGIA SECRETARY

33:40.310 --> 33:42.375
OF STATE BRAD RAFFENSPERGER IN

33:42.409 --> 33:45.067
WHICH THE PRESIDENT URGED THE

33:45.078 --> 33:46.526
SECRETARY TO FIND 11,780 VOTES

33:46.537 --> 33:49.629
HE NEEDED TO CHANGE THE OUTCOME

33:49.640 --> 33:50.976
IN THAT STATE.

33:50.987 --> 33:53.119
DURING THAT CALL, PRESIDENT

33:53.153 --> 33:54.999
TRUMP AGAIN REPEATED CONSPIRACY

33:55.000 --> 33:57.650
THEORIES ABOUT THE ELECTION THAT

33:57.661 --> 33:59.182
HIS OWN APPOINTEES AT THE

33:59.216 --> 34:00.787
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE HAD

34:00.798 --> 34:02.613
ALREADY DEBUNKED.

34:02.647 --> 34:04.661
TRUMP ALSO MADE SECRETARY

34:04.672 --> 34:05.777
RAFFENSPERGER CONSIDERED A

34:05.788 --> 34:08.357
THREAT, ACCURATELY CONSIDERED A

34:08.368 --> 34:09.558
THREAT, SUGGESTING THAT

34:09.569 --> 34:11.341
RAFFENSPERGER AND HIS ATTORNEY

34:11.342 --> 34:13.239
THAT THEY COULD BE SUBJECT TO

34:13.240 --> 34:14.070
CRIMINAL PROSECUTION IF THEY

34:14.081 --> 34:17.501
DIDN’T FOLLOW THROUGH WITH HIS

34:17.535 --> 34:18.032
DEMANDS.

34:18.033 --> 34:21.352
THEN IN REPEATED TELEPHONE CALLS

34:21.354 --> 34:23.651
AND IN-PERSON MEETINGS, DONALD

34:23.662 --> 34:25.267
TRUMP PRESSURED STATE ELECTION

34:25.278 --> 34:26.873
OFFICIALS AND STATE LEDGE

34:26.884 --> 34:28.477
SHRAEUFTORS TO ALTER OFFICIAL

34:28.488 --> 34:30.479
ELECTION RESULTS.

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BUT COURAGEOUS PUBLIC SERVANTS,

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INCLUDING REPUBLICANS LIKE RUSTY

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BOWERS HELD FIRM AND REFUSED TO

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PUT DONALD TRUMP OVER THEIR OATH

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TO THE CONSTITUTION.

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WHEN DONALD TRUMP’S PRESSURE

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CAMPAIGN DID NOT ACHIEVE THE

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RESULTS HE WANTED, HE OVERSAW AN

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EFFORT TO OBTAIN AND TRANSMIT

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FALSE ELECTORAL COLLEGE BALLOTS

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TO CONGRESS AND THE NATIONAL

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ARCHIVES.

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THE FALSE BALLOTS WERE CREATED

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BY FAKE REPUBLICAN ELECTORS ON

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DECEMBER 14th AT THE SAME TIME

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THE ACTUAL CERTIFIED ELECTORS IN

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THOSE STATES WERE MEETING TO

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CAST THEIR VOTES FOR PRESIDENT

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BIDEN.

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BY THAT POINT IN TIME,

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ELECTION-RELATED LITIGATION WAS

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OVER IN ALL OR NEARLY ALL OF

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THESE STATES.

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AND TRUMP CAMPAIGN ELECTION

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LAWYERS REALIZED THAT THE FAKE

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SLATES WERE UNJUSTIFIABLE ON

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TPHEUF GROUNDS AND MAY BE

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UNLAWFUL.

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IN SPITE OF THESE CONCERNS AND

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THE CONCERNS OF INDIVIDUALS IN

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THE WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL’S

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OFFICE, PRESIDENT TRUMP AND

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OTHERS PROCEEDED WITH THIS PLAN.

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THE SELECT COMMITTEE DEVELOPED

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EVIDENCE THAT THESE

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INTENTIONALLY FALSE DOCUMENTS

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WERE TRANSMITTED TO MULTIPLE

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OFFICERS OF THE FEDERAL

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GOVERNMENT AND WERE INTENDED TO

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INTERFERE WITH THE PROPER

35:42.484 --> 35:44.770
CONDUCT OF THE JOINT SESSION

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WITH EXISTENCE OF SO-CALLED

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COMPETING SLATES OF ELECTORS

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WOULD SERVE AS A PRETEXT FOR A

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GENTLEMEN LIT MAT VOTES TO BE

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REJECTED.

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PRESIDENT TRUMP REPEATEDLY

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ATTACKED STATE AND LOCAL

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OFFICIALS WHO REFUSED TO DO HIS

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BIDDING AS WELL AS LOCAL

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ELECTIONS WORKERS WHO HE

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BASELESSLY ACCUSED OF FRAUD.

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AS RUBY FREEMAN AND THE

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TESTIMONY OF OTHER ELECTIONS

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OFFICIALS SO POWERFULLY

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DEMONSTRATED, THE PEOPLE WHO

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DREW PRESIDENT TRUMP’S IRE OVER

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THE SUBJECT OF HIS LIES FACED

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REAL WORLD CONSEQUENCES,

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INCLUDING PUBLIC HARASSMENT AND

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DEATH THREATS.

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SOME OF THESE ELECTIONS WORKERS

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AND OFFICIALS HAVE BEEN FORCED

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TO LEAVE THEIR HOMES.

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OTHERS HAVE BEEN FORCED TO LEAVE

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THE JOBS THEY LOVED.

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TAKE A LISTEN TO MS. FREEMAN’S

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STORY.

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>> NOW I WON’T EVEN INTRODUCE

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MYSELF BY MY NAME ANYMORE.

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I GET NERVOUS WHEN I BUMP INTO

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SOMEONE I KNOW IN THE GROCERY

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STORE WHO SAYS MY NAME.

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I’M WORRIED ABOUT WHO IS

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LISTENING.

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I GET NERVOUS WHEN I HAVE TO

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GIVE MY NAME FOR FOOD ORDERS.

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I’M ALWAYS CONCERNED OF WHO IS

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AROUND ME.

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I’VE LOST MY NAME AND I’VE LOST

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MY REPUTATION.

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>> THE TREATMENT OF MS. FREEMAN

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AND HER DAUGHTER SHEA MOSS AND

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SO MANY OTHERS AROUND THE

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COUNTRY WAS CALLOUS, INHUMAN,

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INEXCUSABLE AND DANGEROUS.

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AND THOSE RESPONSIBLE SHOULD BE

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HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

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MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD BACK.

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>> THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK.

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THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE

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GENTLEMAN FROM ILLINOIS, MR.

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KINZINGER, FOR AN OPENING

37:31.888 --> 37:32.245
STATEMENT.

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>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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CERTAINLY ONE OF THE MANY

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IMPORTANT COMPONENTS OF OUR

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FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS THE

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DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.

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IT’S THE BODY THAT REPRESENTS --

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THAT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR

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ENFORCING OUR LAWS AND

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INVESTIGATING CRIMINAL

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WRONGDOING.

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FOR THIS REASON, IT’S OF THE

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UTMOST IMPORTANCE THAT OUR

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DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE OPERATES

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AS A FAIR AND NEUTRAL BODY THAT

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ENFORCES OUR FEDERAL LAWS

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WITHOUT FEAR OR WITHOUT FAVOR.

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IT IS THIS CRITICAL FUNCTION

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THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP SOUGHT TO

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CORRUPT.

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AS HE SOUGHT TO USE THE

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DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO

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INVESTIGATE AND PROSECUTE

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PURPORTED ELECTION FRAUD AND TO

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HELP HIM CONVINCE THE PUBLIC

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THAT THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN.

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THE SELECT COMMITTEE HAS MADE

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THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS WITH

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RESPECT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF

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JUSTICE.

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IN THE WEEKS IMMEDIATELY

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FOLLOWING THE 2020 ELECTION,

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ATTORNEY GENERAL BILL BARR

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ADVISED PRESIDENT TRUMP THE

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DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE HAD NOT

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SEEN ANY EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT

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TRUMP’S THEORY THAT THE ELECTION

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WAS STOLEN BY FRAUD.

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NO EVIDENCE.

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OVER THE COURSE OF THE THREE

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MEETINGS IN THIS POST-ELECTION

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PERIOD, ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR

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ASSURED PRESIDENT TRUMP THAT THE

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JUSTICE DEPARTMENT WAS PROPERLY

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INVESTIGATING CLAIMS OF ELECTION

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FRAUD.

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HE DEBUNKED NUMEROUS ELECTION

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FRAUD CLAIMS, MANY OF WHICH THE

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PRESIDENT WOULD GO TO ON REPEAT

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PUBLICLY.

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AND HE MADE CLEAR THAT PRESIDENT

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TRUMP WAS DOING, QUOTE, A GREAT,

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GREAT DISSERVICE TO THE COUNTRY

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BY PURSUING THEM.

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AFTER ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR’S

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RESIGNATION, PRESIDENT TRUMP

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REQUESTED THAT THE ACTING

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LEADERSHIP OF THE DEPARTMENT,

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JEFFREY ROSEN AND RICHARD

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DONAHUE, QUOTE, JUST SAY THE

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ELECTION WAS CORRUPT.

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AND LEAVE THE REST TO ME AND THE

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REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMEN.

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IN OTHER WORDS, JUST TELL A

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SMALL LIE TO PUT THE FACADE OF

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LEGITIMACY ON THIS LIE, AND THE

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REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMEN AND I CAN

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DISTORT AND DESTROY AND KROUT

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DOUBT ALL OURSELVES.

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BETWEEN DECEMBER 23rd AND

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JANUARY 3rd, PRESIDENT TRUMP

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CALLED OR MET WITH THEM NEARLY

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EVERY DAY.

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AND WAS TOLD REPEATEDLY THE

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DEPARTMENT INVESTIGATION SHOWED

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NO FACTUAL SUPPORT FOR TRUMP’S

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FRAUD ALLEGATIONS.

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MR. ROSEN AND MR. DONAHUE TOLD

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HIM THAT THE FRAUD CLAIMS WERE

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SIMPLY UNTRUE.

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AS MR. ROSEN AND MR. DONAHUE

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CONTINUED TO RESIST, PRESIDENT

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TRUMP THEN TRIED TO INSTALL A

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LOYALIST NAMED JEFFREY CLARK, TO

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LEAD THE DEPARTMENT AS ACTING

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ATTORNEY GENERAL.

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ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS CLARK MET

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WITH THE PRESIDENT APPARENTLY

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ALONG WITH REPRESENTATIVE SCOTT

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PERRY, WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION,

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PROMISING TO TAKE THE ACTIONS

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THAT BARR, ROSEN AND DONAHUE HAD

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REFUSED TO TAKE.

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IN PARTICULAR, MR. CLARK

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INTENDED TO SEND A LETTER THAT

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HE HAD DRAFTED WITH THE HELP OF

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A POLITICAL APPOINTEE THAT THE

40:35.616 --> 40:36.465
WHITE HOUSE INSTALLED AT DOJ

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WITH JUST WEEKS LEFT IN THE

40:39.420 --> 40:39.888
ADMINISTRATION.

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MR. CLARK INTENDED TO ACCEPTED

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THE LETTER TO OFFICIALS IN

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NUMEROUS STATES, INFORMING THEM

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FALSELY, OF COURSE, THAT THE

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DEPARTMENT HAD IDENTIFIED

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SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS ABOUT THE

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ELECTION RESULTS IN THEIR STATE

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AND ENCOURAGING THEIR STATE

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LEGISLATORS TO COME INTO SPECIAL

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SESSION TO CONSIDER APPOINTING

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TRUMP RATHER THAN BIDEN

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ELECTORS.

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HERE’S ACTING DEPUTY ATTORNEY

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GENERAL DONAHUE DESCRIBING HIS

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REACTION TO MR. CLARK’S PROPOSED

41:09.680 --> 41:10.341
LETTER.

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>> SENDING DRAFTING LETTERS

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WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT

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THE DEPARTMENT HAD ACTUALLY DONE

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IN TERMS OF THE INVESTIGATIONS,

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THAT HE WAS BEING RECKLESS.

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AND I RECALL TOWARDS THE END

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SAYING WHAT YOU’RE PROPOSING IS

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NOTHING LESS THAN THE UNITED

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STATES JUSTICE DEPARTMENT

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MEDDLING IN THE OUTCOME OF THE

41:28.469 --> 41:28.699
ELECTION.

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>> KNOWING THEY WOULD NOT

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SUPPORT HIS FALSE ELECTION

41:31.382 --> 41:32.410
CLAIMS, PRESIDENT TRUMP OFFERED

41:32.444 --> 41:37.023
MR. CLARK THE JOB OF ACTING

41:37.024 --> 41:38.554
ATTORNEY GENERAL.

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IN A DRAMATIC JANUARY 3rd

41:41.632 --> 41:43.465
MEETING, ROSEN, DONAHUE, PAT

41:43.476 --> 41:46.623
CIPOLLONE AND WHITE HOUSE LAWYER

41:46.657 --> 41:48.452
ERIC HIRSH MAN STRONGLY OBJECTED

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TO THE APPOINTMENT OF JEFFREY

41:50.857 --> 41:52.224
CLARK AS ACTING ATTORNEY.

41:52.235 --> 41:53.881
MR. CLARK PLEADED HIS CASE AND

41:53.915 --> 41:56.464
OFFERED TO SEND THE LETTER THAT

41:56.466 --> 41:58.888
HE HAD DRAFTED, THE WHITE HOUSE

41:58.899 --> 42:01.752
COUNCIL CALLED IT A

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MURDER-SUICIDE PACT.

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NUMEROUS WHITE HOUSE LAWYERS AND

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DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE LAWYERS

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ALL THREATENED TO RESIGN.

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DONALD TRUMP WOULD BE LEADING A

42:10.056 --> 42:10.507
GRAVEYARD.

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IT WAS ONLY AFTER THE THREAT OF

42:12.757 --> 42:14.319
MASS RESIGNATIONS THAT PRESIDENT

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TRUMP RESCINDED HIS OFFER TO MR.

42:15.713 --> 42:16.659
CLARK.

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MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD BACK.

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>> THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK.

42:20.946 --> 42:22.137
THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE

42:22.170 --> 42:22.957
GENTLEMAN FROM CALIFORNIA, MR.

42:22.968 --> 42:25.537
AGUILAR, FOR AN OPENING

42:25.548 --> 42:27.173
STATEMENT.

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>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP’S

42:33.112 --> 42:35.457
MULTI-PART PLAN DIDN’T STOP WITH

42:35.468 --> 42:37.080
THE STATES OR THE DEPARTMENT OF

42:37.113 --> 42:37.892
JUSTICE.

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IT TOUCHED NEARLY EVERY

42:39.573 --> 42:41.025
COMPONENT OF OUR FEDERAL SYSTEM

42:41.059 --> 42:43.446
RANGING FROM THE COURTS, TO

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CONGRESS, TO HIS OWN VICE

42:46.102 --> 42:47.998
PRESIDENT MIKE BEFORE JANUARY 6t

42:48.032 --> 42:50.502
MR. TRUMP TURNED TO THE MAN WHO

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HAD SERVED HIM LOYALLY FOR FOUR

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YEARS.

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HE EMBRACED AN ILLEGAL SCHEME

42:55.895 --> 42:58.423
PROPOSED BY JOHN EASTMAN, AND

42:58.434 --> 43:00.192
OTHERS, WHO CON COCKED AN

43:00.226 --> 43:02.291
UNFOUNDED LEGAL THEORY THAT THE

43:02.302 --> 43:04.426
VICE PRESIDENT COULD REJECT JOE

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BIDEN’S ELECTORAL VOTES DURING

43:05.975 --> 43:06.803
THE JOINT SESSION.

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WHEN VICE PRESIDENT PENCE AND

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MANY OTHERS, INCLUDING TRUMP’S

43:10.865 --> 43:14.450
OWN LAWYER, JOHN EASTMAN, TOLD

43:14.452 --> 43:17.644
HIM CORRECTLY THAT FORMER

43:17.655 --> 43:20.012
PRESIDENT TRUMP SPEARHEADED AN

43:20.046 --> 43:22.558
UNPRECEDENTED CAMPAIGN TO COERCE

43:22.569 --> 43:24.989
HIM TO DO IT ANYWAY, ULTIMATELY

43:25.023 --> 43:26.293
CULMINATING IN A DANGEROUS

43:26.304 --> 43:29.043
THREAT TO MR. PENCE’S LIFE ON

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JANUARY 6th.

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THESE ARE THE SELECT COMMITTEE’S

43:31.570 --> 43:34.680
FINDINGS WITH RESPECT TO THE

43:34.691 --> 43:36.106
PRESSURE CAMPAIGN AGAINST THE

43:36.117 --> 43:37.318
VICE PRESIDENT.

43:37.329 --> 43:39.390
JOHN EASTMAN ADMITTED IN ADVANCE

43:39.401 --> 43:42.916
OF THE 2020 ELECTION THAT MIKE

43:42.950 --> 43:44.533
PENCE COULD NOT LAWFULLY REFUSE

43:44.544 --> 43:45.468
TO COUNT OFFICIAL ELECTORAL

43:45.501 --> 43:46.171
VOTES.

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BUT HE NEVERTHELESS DEVICED A

43:48.719 --> 43:51.080
MERITLESS PROPOSAL THAT DEPLOYED

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A COMBINATION OF BOGUS ELECTION

43:53.711 --> 43:55.454
FRAUD CLAIMS AND THE FAKE

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ELECTORAL BALLOTS TO SAY THAT

43:57.327 --> 43:59.200
MIKE PENCE, PRESIDING OVER THE

43:59.211 --> 44:01.571
JOINT SESSION COULD REJECT

44:01.582 --> 44:03.614
LEGITIMATE ELECTORAL VOTES FOR

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PRESIDENT-ELECT BIDEN.

44:04.564 --> 44:06.680
BUT STILL, PRESIDENT TRUMP

44:06.714 --> 44:08.642
ACCEPTED AND REPEATED EASTMAN’S

44:08.653 --> 44:11.554
THEORY AND USED IT TO PRESSURE

44:11.565 --> 44:13.020
THE VICE PRESIDENT TO TAKE

44:13.053 --> 44:14.696
UNLAWFUL ACTION.

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IN MULTIPLE HEATED

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CONVERSATIONS, PRESIDENT TRUMP

44:18.345 --> 44:19.566
DIRECTLY PRESSURED VICE

44:19.567 --> 44:21.642
PRESIDENT PENCE TO ADOP THE

44:21.653 --> 44:23.027
EASTMAN THEORY, AND EITHER

44:23.029 --> 44:28.583
REJECT THE ELECTORS, OR SEND

44:28.585 --> 44:31.494
THEM BACK TO THE STATE

44:31.505 --> 44:31.914
LEGISLATURES.

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THE VICE PRESIDENT CONSISTENTLY

44:33.325 --> 44:34.831
RESIST AND REPEATEDLY TOLD THE

44:34.842 --> 44:36.420
PRESIDENT THAT HE DID NOT

44:36.421 --> 44:38.122
POSSESS THE AUTHORITY TO DO WHAT

44:38.133 --> 44:39.376
PRESIDENT TRUMP DIRECTED THIS.

44:39.387 --> 44:40.805
CULMINATED IN AN ANGRY PHONE

44:40.816 --> 44:44.943
CALL ON THE MORNING OF JANUARY

44:44.954 --> 44:46.651
6th BETWEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP AND

44:46.662 --> 44:48.140
VICE PRESIDENT PENCE DURING

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WHICH THE FORMER PRESIDENT

44:50.087 --> 44:52.265
REPEATEDLY BERATED MR. PENCE BY

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CURSING AND LEVELING THREAT.

44:53.957 --> 44:55.245
WHITE HOUSE STAFFER RICK LUNO

44:55.247 --> 44:56.842
WAS ONE OF THE MANY WITNESSES

44:56.853 --> 44:57.901
WHO HEARD THE CALL AS IT

44:57.935 --> 44:59.156
HAPPENED.

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TAKE A LISTEN AT HIS TESTIMONY.

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>> DID HE HEAR ANY PART OF THE

45:05.044 --> 45:07.014
PHONE CALL, EVEN IF JUST THE END

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THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS SPEAKING

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FROM?

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>> I DID, YES.

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>> ALL RIGHT.

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WHAT DID YOU HEAR?

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>> SO AS I WAS DROPPING OFF THE

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NOTE, I, MY MEMORY, I REMEMBER

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HEARING THE WORD WIMP, HE CALLED

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HIM A WIMP, I REMEMBER HE SAID

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YOU ARE A WIMP, YOU’LL BE A

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WIMP, WIMP IS THE WORD I

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REMEMBER, SOMETHING TO THE

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EFFECT, THIS IS THE WORDING, I

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MADE THE WRONG DECISION FOUR OR

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FIVE YEARS AGO.

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>> IN THE FACE OF THE VICE

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PRESIDENT’S RESISTANCE, THE

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FORMER PRESIDENT AND OTHERS

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EXERTED BOTH PRIVATE AND PUBLIC

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PRESSURE TO CHANGE HIS MIND.

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IN A SPEECH ON THE ELLIPSE ON

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THE AFTERNOON OF JANUARY 6th,

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FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP TOLD THE

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CROWD THAT VICE PRESIDENT PENCE

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NEEDED THE COURAGE TO DO WHAT HE

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HAS TO DO.

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ONCE THE RIOT BEGAN, PRESIDENT

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TRUMP DELIBERATELY CHOSE TO

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ISSUE A TWEET ATTACKING MR.

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PENCE KNOWING THAT THE CROWD HAD

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ALREADY GROWN VIOLENT.

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ALMOST IMMEDIATELY THEREAFTER,

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THE CROWD AROUND THE CAPITOL

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SURGED, AND BETWEEN 2:30 AND

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2:35 P.M., THE METROPOLITAN

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POLICE LINE ON THE WEST FRONT OF

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THE CAPITAL BROKE, THIS IS THE

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FIRST TIME IN MPD HISTORY THAT

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THE LINE HAD BROKEN.

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RIOTERS AT THE CAPITOL WERE

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HEARD CHANTING HANG MIKE PENCE

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THROUGHOUT THE AFTERNOON.

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AS RESULT OF THE UP REST, VICE

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PRESIDENT MIKE PENCE WAS FORCED

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TO FLEE TO A SECURE LOCATION

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WHERE HE ACTIVELY COORDINATED

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WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT AND OTHER

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GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS TO ADDRESS

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THE ONGOING VIOLENCE.

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MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD BACK.

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>> THE GENTLEMAN KWOOELD YIELDS

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BACK.

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THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE GENTLE

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WOMAN FROM FLORIDA, MS. NUR FY,

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FOR AN OPENING STATEMENT.

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>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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ULTIMATELY PRESIDENT TRUMP DID

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NOT SUCCEED IN BENDING STATE AND

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FEDERAL OFFICIALS TO HIS WILL.

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AT EVERY TURN, STATE OFFICIALS,

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THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, MIKE

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PENCE, AND MANY OTHERS STOOD UP

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FOR THE RULE OF LAW, AND

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RESISTED THE PRESIDENT’S WISHES.

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IN THAT WAY, OUR AMERICAN

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INSTITUTIONS HELD AFTER THE 2020

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ELECTION.

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BUT THAT DID NOT STOP PRESIDENT

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TRUMP.

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INSTEAD, HE TURNED TO HIS

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SUPPORTERS, THOSE WHO BELIEVED

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HIS LIES ABOUT A STOLEN

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ELECTION.

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HE SUMMONED A CROWD TO THE

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NATION’S CAPITAL ON JANUARY 6th,

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HOPING THAT THEY WOULD PRESSURE

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CONGRESS TO DO WHAT HE COULD NOT

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DO ON HIS OWN.

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SELECT COMMITTEE HAS MADE THE

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FOLLOWING FINDINGS ON THIS

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ISSUE.

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TWO YEARS AGO TODAY, IN THE

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EARLY MORNING HOURS OF DECEMBER

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19th, DONALD TRUMP SENT A TWEET

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URGING HIS SUPPORTERS TO TRAVEL

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TO WASHINGTON FOR A PROTEST ON

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JANUARY 6th.

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BE THERE, WILL BE WILD, HE

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TWEETED.

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BETWEEN DECEMBER 19th AND

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JANUARY 6th, THE PRESIDENT

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REPEATEDLY ENCOURAGED HIS

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SUPPORTERS TO COME TO

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WASHINGTON.

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THE PRESIDENT’S DECEMBER 19th

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TWEET GALVANIZED DOMESTIC

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VIOLENT EXTREMISTS INCLUDING

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MEMBERS OF THE OATH KEEPERS, THE

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PROUD BOYS, AND ORGANIZED

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MILITIA GROUPS.

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THESE INDIVIDUALS BEGAN

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ORGANIZING TO COME TO THE

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CAPITAL IN LARGE NUMBERS, WITH

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THE SPECIFIC INTENT TO USE

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VIOLENCE TO DISRUPT THE

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CERTIFICATION OF THE ELECTION

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DURING THE JOINT SESSION.

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PRIOR TO JANUARY 6th, THE FBI,

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SECRET SERVICE, U.S. CAPITOL

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POLICE, DY GOVERNMENT AND OTHER

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LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES

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GATHERED SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE

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SUGGESTING THE RISK OF VIOLENCE

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AT THE CAPITOL DURING THE JOINT

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SESSION.

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PRIOR TO JANUARY -- SORRY, THESE

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INCLUDED WARNINGS LIKE THE

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FOLLOWING.

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THEIR PLAN IS TO LITERALLY KILL

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PEOPLE.

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PLEASE, PLEASE TAKE THIS TIP

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SERIOUSLY AND INVESTIGATE

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FURTHER.

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PRESIDENT TRUMP SUPPORTERS HAVE

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PROPOSED A MOVEMENT TO OCCUPY

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CAPITOL HILL.

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ALERT, REGARDING THE VP BEING A

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DEAD MAN WALKING IF HE DOESN’T

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DO THE RIGHT THING.

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I SAW SEVERAL OTHER ALERTS

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SAYING THEY WILL STORM THE

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CAPITOL IF HE DOESN’T DO THE

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RIGHT THING.

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IN THE DAYS LEADING UP TO

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JANUARY 6th, PRESIDENT TRUMP’S

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ADVISERS EXPLICITLY TOLD HIM

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THAT HE SHOULD ENCOURAGE HIS

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SUPPORTERS TO BE PEACEFUL THAT

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DAY.

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BUT HE REFUSED.

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ONE WITNESS HOPE HICKS PROVIDED

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THE COMMITTEE WITH RECORDS OF

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TEXT MESSAGES ON JANUARY 6th.

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IN ONE EXCHANGE WITH ANOTHER

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STAFFER, HEY, I KNOW YOU’RE

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SEEING THIS.

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BUT HE, REFERRING TO PRESIDENT

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TRUMP, REALLY SHOULD TWEET

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SOMETHING ABOUT BEING

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NONVIOLENT.

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I’M NOT THERE, HICKS REPLIED.

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I SUGGESTED IT SEVERAL TIMES

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MONDAY AND TUESDAY AND HE

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REFUSED.

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WHEN MS. HICKS CAME IN TO

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PROVIDE TESTIMONY TO THE

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COMMITTEE, WE ASKED HER ABOUT

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THIS EXCHANGE.

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HER EXPLANATION IS THAT THE "HE"

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IN THE TEXT WASN’T THE PRESIDENT

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BUT ERIC HIRSCHMAN, TAKE A

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LISTEN TO HER HOSPITAL --

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TESTIMONY.

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>> WHEN YOU WROTE IT I SUGGESTED

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IT SEVERAL TIMES, AND THAT

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PRESUMABLY MEANS THAT THE

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PRESIDENT SAID SOMETHING ABOUT

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BEING NONVIOLENT, I SUGGESTED IT

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SEVERAL TIMES MONDAY AND TUESDAY

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AND HE REFUSED.

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TELL US WHAT HAPPENED.

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>> SURE.

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I DIDN’T SPEAK TO THE PRESIDENT

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ABOUT THIS DIRECTLY, BUT I

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COMMUNICATED WITH PEOPLE LIKE

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ERIC HERSCHMAN THAT IT WAS MY

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VIEW THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT

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THE PRESIDENT PUT OUT SOME KIND

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OF MESSAGE IN ADVANCE OF THE

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EVENT.

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>> AND WHAT WAS MR. HERSCHMAN’S

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RESPONSE?

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>> MR. HERSCHMAN SAID HE HAD

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MADE THE SAME, YOU KNOW,

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RECOMMENDATION DIRECTLY TO THE

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PRESIDENT, AND THAT HE HAD

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REFUSED.

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>> JUST SO I UNDERSTAND, MR.

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HERSCHMAN SAID THAT HE HAD

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ALREADY RECOMMENDED TO THE
PRESIDENT THAT THE PRESIDENT

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PRESIDENT THAT THE PRESIDENT

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CONVEY A MESSAGE THAT PEOPLE

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SHOULD DO SO AND THE PRESIDENT

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HAD REFUSED TO DO THAT?

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>> YES.

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>> THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO

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REVIEW THIS IN THE TRANSCRIPTS

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AND SEE THE PERSPECTIVE ERIC

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HERSCHMAN GAVE BEFORE WE TOOK

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HOPE HICKS’ TESTIMONY.

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DESPITE HAVING KNOWLEDGE OF THE

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THREATS OF VIOLENCE PRESENTED BY

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THE CROWD GATHERED ON JANUARY

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6th, PRESIDENT TRUMP GAVE AN

51:11.534 --> 51:12.588
INCENDIARY SPEECH, DECLARING

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WITHOUT BASIS THAT THE ELECTION

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HAD BEEN STOLEN, AND ENCOURAGING

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HIS SUPPORTERS TO FIGHT LIKE

51:18.950 --> 51:19.433
HELL.

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AND DURING THE SPEECH AND

51:21.364 --> 51:22.120
IMMEDIATELY THEREAFTER,

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PRESIDENT TRUMP STATED HIS

51:23.195 --> 51:25.451
INTENTION TO TRAVEL TO THE

51:25.486 --> 51:27.349
CAPITOL WITH HIS SUPPORTERS, IN

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AN EFFORT TO INFLUENCE THE JOINT

51:28.706 --> 51:29.455
SESSION.

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THE SELECT COMMITTEE HAS

51:31.227 --> 51:32.364
DEVELOPED EVIDENCE INDICATING

51:32.375 --> 51:34.395
THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP DID IN FACT

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INTEND TO GO TO THE CAPITOL ON

51:36.164 --> 51:38.485
THE AFTERNOON OF JANUARY 6th,

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AND THAT HE REPEATEDLY EXPRESSED

51:40.315 --> 51:41.914
THAT INTENTION DURING THE

51:41.925 --> 51:43.112
AFTERNOON, AND IN THE DAYS

51:43.113 --> 51:43.718
PRIOR.

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MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD BACK.

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>> THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK.

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THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE

51:52.900 --> 51:54.743
GENTLEWOMAN FROM VIRGINIA, MRS.

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LURIA FOR AN OPENING STATEMENT.

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>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

51:58.727 --> 52:00.073
ALL OF PRESIDENT TRUMP’S EFFORTS

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CAME TO A HEAD ON THE AFTERNOON

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OF JANUARY 6th.

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STANDING ON THE STAGE OF THE

52:04.947 --> 52:05.844
ELLIPSE, PRESIDENT TRUMP TOLD

52:05.855 --> 52:07.400
TENS OF THOUSANDS OF ANGRY

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SUPPORTERS THAT THE ELECTION WAS

52:09.120 --> 52:11.581
STOLEN, THAT THEY HAD THE POWER

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TO CHANGE THAT, IF THEY MARCHED

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TO THE CAPITOL, AND THAT THEY

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WOULDN’T HAVE ANY A-COUNTRY

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ANYMORE IF THE PRESIDENCY WAS

52:18.457 --> 52:20.160
TAKEN AWAY FROM HIM.

52:20.171 --> 52:22.317
HE TOLD THEM HE WOULD BE THERE

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WITH THEM, AND THEN, AS THE

52:25.050 --> 52:27.480
CROWD DESCENDED ON THE CAPITOL,

52:27.491 --> 52:28.994
PRESIDENT TRUMP WATCHED IT ON

52:29.028 --> 52:29.727
TELEVISION.

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DESPITE PLEAS FROM HIS SENIOR

52:32.276 --> 52:34.229
ADVISERS, FROM LAWMAKERS ON THE

52:34.240 --> 52:37.001
HILL AND FROM HIS OWN CHILDREN,

52:37.036 --> 52:39.120
PRESIDENT TRUMP WOULD NOT ISSUE

52:39.121 --> 52:41.636
A PUBLIC STATEMENT INSTRUCTING

52:41.647 --> 52:43.733
HIS SUPPORTERS TO DISPERSE AND

52:43.767 --> 52:45.509
LEAVE THE CAPITOL.

52:45.510 --> 52:47.596
MR. TRUMP’S FAILURES SPAN THE

52:47.607 --> 52:49.732
TIME PERIOD OF 1:10 P.M. WHEN

52:49.743 --> 52:50.904
HIS SPEECH ENDED AND INSTRUCTED

52:50.915 --> 52:52.740
SUPPORTERS TO MARCH TO THE

52:52.774 --> 52:55.444
CAPITOL TO 4:17 P.M., WHEN HE

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FINALLY BE GRUDGINGLY TOLD HIS

52:56.992 --> 52:58.724
SUPPORTERS TO GO HOME.

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FOR 187 MINUTES, HE ACTIVELY

53:00.970 --> 53:02.181
DISREGARDED HIS CONSTITUTIONAL

53:02.192 --> 53:04.583
OBLIGATION TO TAKE CARE THAT THE

53:04.617 --> 53:06.294
LAWS ARE FAITHFULLY EXECUTED.

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AS WE’VE ESTABLISHED THROUGH

53:08.583 --> 53:10.741
MONTHS OF INVESTIGATION, THAT IS

53:10.742 --> 53:12.512
BECAUSE THE MOB WANTED WHAT

53:12.514 --> 53:15.121
PRESIDENT TRUMP WANTED, TO

53:15.122 --> 53:16.617
IMPEDE THE PEACEFUL TRANSITION

53:16.619 --> 53:17.555
OF POWER.

53:17.556 --> 53:19.764
THESE ARE THE SELECT COMMITTEE’S

53:19.775 --> 53:22.070
FINDINGS ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP’S

53:22.071 --> 53:23.442
DERELICTION OF DUTY.

53:23.453 --> 53:26.005
FROM THE OUTSET OF THE VIOLENCE,

53:26.039 --> 53:28.282
AND FOR SEVERAL HOURS THAT

53:28.283 --> 53:30.432
FOLLOWED, PEOPLE AT THE CAPITOL,

53:30.443 --> 53:32.522
PEOPLE INSIDE PRESIDENT TRUMP’S

53:32.523 --> 53:33.465
ADMINISTRATION, ELECTED

53:33.467 --> 53:35.412
OFFICIALS OF BOTH PARTIES,

53:35.423 --> 53:39.653
MEMBERS OF PRESIDENT TRUMP’S OWN

53:39.664 --> 53:41.716
FAMILY, AND EVEN FOX NEWS

53:41.727 --> 53:42.870
COMMENTATORS WERE SYMPATHETIC TO

53:42.905 --> 53:44.175
PRESIDENT TRUMP, ALL TRYING TO

53:44.186 --> 53:46.245
CONTACT THE WHITE HOUSE, TO URGE

53:46.256 --> 53:48.332
HIM TO DO ONE SINGULAR THING.

53:48.343 --> 53:50.306
THE ONE THING THAT ALL OF THESE

53:50.339 --> 53:51.972
PEOPLE IMMEDIATELY UNDERSTOOD

53:51.973 --> 53:53.844
WAS REQUIRED, INSTRUCT HIS

53:53.855 --> 53:56.234
SUPPORTERS TO LEAVE THE CAPITOL.

53:56.245 --> 53:57.664
THE PRESIDENT REPEATEDLY REFUSED

53:57.675 --> 54:00.116
PLEAS, AS HE WATCHED THE

54:00.150 --> 54:01.623
VIOLENCE AT THE CAPITOL ON

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TELEVISION.

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DURING THE DAY, THE PRESIDENT

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NEVER SPOKE WITH THE NATIONAL

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GUARD, THE DEPARTMENT OF

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DEFENSE, THE DEPARTMENT OF

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JUSTICE OR ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT

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AGENCY.

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AT NO POINT DURING THE DAY, OR

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ANY OTHER, DID HE ISSUE ANY

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ORDER TO DEPLOY ANY LAW

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ENFORCEMENT AGENCY TO ASSIST.

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MULTIPLE WITNESSES, INCLUDING

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PRESIDENT TRUMP’S WHITE HOUSE

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COUNSEL, TESTIFIED TO THESE

54:24.898 --> 54:25.173
FACTS.

54:25.207 --> 54:27.200
YOUR WHITE HOUSE EMPLOYEES, WHO

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HAD BEEN SPEAKING DIRECTLY WITH

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PRESIDENT TRUMP, STATE, HE

54:30.223 --> 54:31.738
DIDN’T WANT ANYTHING DONE.

54:31.749 --> 54:33.308
THE PRESIDENT WAS MAKING PHONE

54:33.319 --> 54:35.261
CALLS THAT AFTERNOON, BUT THEY

54:35.296 --> 54:36.747
WEREN’T TO LAW ENFORCEMENT

54:36.758 --> 54:37.070
OFFICIALS.

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WHETHER, PRESIDENT TRUMP

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CONTINUED TO CALL HIS LAWYER,

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RUDY GIULIANI.

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BOTH PRESIDENT TRUMP AND MR.

54:43.064 --> 54:45.409
GIULIANI SPOKE WITH

54:45.410 --> 54:47.364
CONGRESSIONAL LEADERS, EVEN

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AFTER THE VIOLENCE HAD BEGUN, TO

54:49.857 --> 54:52.755
ENCOURAGE THEM TO CONTINUE

54:52.766 --> 54:53.981
DELAYING THE SESSION.

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APPROXIMATELY THREE HOURS AFTER

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BEING INFORMED OF THE VIOLENCE

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AT THE CAPITOL, HOURS DURING

54:59.739 --> 55:00.953
WHICH, AS OUR EVIDENCE HAS

55:00.964 --> 55:02.282
SHOWN, DONALD TRUMP SAT IN HIS

55:02.283 --> 55:04.510
DINING ROOM AND WATCHED THE

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VIOLENCE ON TELEVISION, THE

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PRESIDENT RELEASED A VIDEO

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STATEMENT, IN WHICH HE AGAIN

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REPEATED THAT THE ELECTION WAS

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STOLEN, TOLD HIS SUPPORTERS AT

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THE CAPITOL THAT HE LOVED THEM,

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AND ULTIMATELY SUGGESTED THAT

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THEY DISPERSE.

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THE STATEMENT MADE AN IMMEDIATE

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ELEMENT ON ELEMENTS OF THE

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CROWD, MANY OF WHOM HAVE

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TESTIFIED THAT IT LED THEM TO

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DEPART THE CAPITOL.

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AT 6:01 P.M., PRESIDENT TRUMP

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SENT HIS LAST TWEET OF THE DAY.

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HE DID NOT CONDEMN THE VIOLENCE,

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AND INSTEAD, HE ATTEMPTED TO

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JUSTIFY IT.

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THESE ARE THE THINGS AND EVENTS

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THAT HAPPENED WHEN A SACRED

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LANDSLIDE ELECTION VICTORY IS SO

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UNCEREMONIOUSLY AND VICIOUSLY

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STRIPPED AWAY, HE WROTE.

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REMEMBER THIS DAY FOREVER.

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THERE’S NO DOUBT THAT PRESIDENT

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TRUMP THOUGHT THAT THE ACTIONS

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OF THE RIOTERS WERE JUSTIFIED.

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IN THE DAYS AFTER JANUARY 6th,

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HE SPOKE TO SEVERAL DIFFERENT

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ADVISERS, AND IN THOSE

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CONVERSATIONS, HE MINIMIZED THE

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SERIOUSNESS OF THE ATTACK.

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HERE’S NEW TESTIMONY FROM

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ANOTHER ONE OF PRESIDENT’S

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SENIOR ADVISERS KELLYANNE

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CONWAY.

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>> YOU SAID YOU TALKED TO THE

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PRESIDENT THE NEXT DAY.

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TELL US ABOUT THAT CONVERSATION,

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ON THE 7th.

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>> I DON’T THINK IT WAS VERY

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LONG.

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I JUST SAID IT WAS A TERRIBLE

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THING, I’M WORKING ON A LONG

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STATEMENT, I SAID IT’S CRAZY.

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>> WHAT DID HE SAY?

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>> PEOPLE ARE UPSET.

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THEY’RE VERY UPSET.

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>> IN THE DAYS FOLLOWING THE

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ATTACK, PRESIDENT TRUMP ALSO

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EXPRESSED A DESIRE TO PARDON

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THOSE INVOLVED IN THE ATTACK.

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SINCE THEN, HE SUGGESTED THAT HE

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WILL DO SO IF HE RETURNS TO THE

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OVAL OFFICE.

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IN SUMMARY, PRESIDENT TRUMP LIT

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THE FLAME, HE POURED GASOLINE ON

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THE FIRE, AND SAT BY IN THE

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WHITE HOUSE DINING ROOM, FOR

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HOURS, WATCHING THE FIRE BURN.

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AND TODAY, HE STILL CONTINUES TO

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FAN THOSE FLAMES.

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THAT WAS EXTREME DERELICTION OF

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DUTY.

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MR. CHAIRMAN, I YIELD BACK.

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>> THE GENTLEWOMAN YIELDS BACK.

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THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES THE

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GENTLEMEN FROM MARYLAND, MR. RAS

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KIN, FOR AN OPENING STATEMENT.

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>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR

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EXTRAORDINARY LEADERSHIP OF THIS

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COMMITTEE.

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GENERATIONS TO COME WILL PRAISE

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YOU AND THE VICE CHAIR FOR YOUR

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UNSWERVING DEVOTION TO THE RULE

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OF LAW.

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SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, YOU TASKED

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SEVERAL OF OUR MEMBERS IN A SUB

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COMMITTEE WITH BRINGING

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RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE FULL

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COMMITTEE ABOUT POTENTIAL

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REFERRALS TO THE DEPARTMENT OF

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JUSTICE AND OTHER AUTHORITIES

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BASED ON EVIDENCE OF CRIMINAL

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AND CIVIL OFFENSES THAT HAS COME

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TO OUR ATTENTION OVER THE COURSE

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OF OUR INVESTIGATION.

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WE ARE NOW PREPARED TO SHARE

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THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS TODAY.

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MR. CHAIRMAN, LET ME BEGIN WITH

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SOME RELEVANT BACKGROUND

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CONSIDERATIONS TO OUR CRIMINAL

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REFERRALS.

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THE DANGEROUS ASSAULT ON

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AMERICAN CONSTITUTIONAL

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DEMOCRACY THAT TOOK PLACE ON

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JANUARY 6th 2021, CONSISTS OF

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HUNDREDS OF INDIVIDUAL CRIMINAL

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OFFENSES.

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MOST SUCH CRIMES ARE ALREADY

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BEING PROSECUTED BY THE

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DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.

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WE PROPOSE TO THE COMMITTEE

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ADVANCING REFERRALS WHERE THE

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GRAVITY OF THE SPECIFIC OFFENSE,

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THE SEVERITY OF ITS ACTUAL HARM,

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AND THE CENTRALITY OF THE

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OFFENDER, TO THE OVERALL DESIGN

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OF THE UNLAWFUL SCHEME TO

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OVERTHROW THE ELECTION, COMPEL

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US TO SPEAK.

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OURS IS NOT A SYSTEM OF JUSTICE

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WHERE FOOT SOLDIERS GO TO JAIL

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AND THE MASTERMINDS AND RING

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LEADERS GET A FREE PASS.

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MR. CHAIRMAN, AS YOU KNOW, OUR

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COMMITTEE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY

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LAST SPRING TO PRESENT MUCH OF

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OUR EVIDENCE TO A FEDERAL JUDGE.

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SOMETHING THAT DISTINGUISHES OUR

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INVESTIGATION FROM ANY OTHER

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CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATION I

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CAN RECALL.

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IN THE CONTEXT OF RESOLVING

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EVIDENTIARY PRIVILEGE ISSUES

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RELATED TO THE CRIME FRAUD

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DOCTRINE, IN THE EASTMAN CASE,

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U.S. DISTRICT COURT JUDGE DAVID

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CARTER, EXAMINED JUST A SMALL

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SUB-SET OF OUR EVIDENCE TO

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DETERMINE WHETHER IT SHOWED THE

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LIKELY COMMISSION OF A FEDERAL

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OFFENSE.

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THE JUDGE CONCLUDED THAT BOTH

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FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP

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AND JOHN EASTMAN LIKELY VIOLATED

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TWO FEDERAL CRIMINAL STATUTES.

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THIS IS THE STARTING POINT FOR

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OUR ANALYSIS TODAY.

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THE FIRST CRIMINAL STATUTE WE

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INVOKED FOR REFERRAL THEREFORE

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IS TITLE 18 SECTION 1512 C,

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WHICH MAKES IT UNLAWFUL FOR

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ANYONE TO CORRUPTLY OBSTRUCT,

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INFLUENCE, OR IMPEDE ANY

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OFFICIAL PROCEEDING OF THE

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UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.

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WE BELIEVE THAT THE EVIDENCE

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DESCRIBED BY MY COLLEAGUES

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TODAY, AND ASSEMBLED THROUGHOUT

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OUR HEARINGS, WARRANT A CRIMINAL

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REFERRAL OF FORMER PRESIDENT

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DONALD J. TRUMP, JOHN EASTMAN,

01:00:00.196 --> 01:00:02.496
AND OTHERS FOR VIOLATIONS OF

01:00:02.507 --> 01:00:03.794
THIS STATUTE.

01:00:03.828 --> 01:00:07.076
THE WHOLE PURPOSE AND OBVIOUS

01:00:07.087 --> 01:00:10.870
EFFECT OF TRUMP’S SCHEME WERE TO

01:00:10.881 --> 01:00:13.537
OBSTRUCT, INFLUENCE, AND IMPEDE

01:00:13.548 --> 01:00:15.743
THIS OFFICIAL PROCEEDING, THE

01:00:15.777 --> 01:00:19.491
CENTRAL MOMENT FOR THE LAWFUL

01:00:19.492 --> 01:00:21.847
TRANSFER OF POWER, IN THE UNITED

01:00:21.858 --> 01:00:22.272
STATES.

01:00:22.283 --> 01:00:24.750
SECOND, WE BELIEVE THAT THERE IS

01:00:24.761 --> 01:00:26.950
MORE THAN SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE TO

01:00:26.961 --> 01:00:29.273
REFER FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD J.

01:00:29.307 --> 01:00:32.590
TRUMP, JOHN EASTMAN, AND OTHERS,

01:00:32.592 --> 01:00:34.468
FOR VIOLATING TITLE 18 SECTION

01:00:34.479 --> 01:00:35.136
371.

01:00:35.137 --> 01:00:38.616
THIS STATUTE MAKES IT A CRIME TO

01:00:38.627 --> 01:00:40.053
CONSPIRE TO DEFRAUD THE UNITED

01:00:40.064 --> 01:00:40.449
STATES.

01:00:40.482 --> 01:00:44.078
IN OTHER WORDS, TO MAKE AN

01:00:44.079 --> 01:00:46.203
AGREEMENT TO IMPAIR, OBSTRUCT,

01:00:46.214 --> 01:00:48.392
OR DEFEAT THE LAWFUL FUNCTIONS

01:00:48.393 --> 01:00:52.401
OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT

01:00:52.412 --> 01:00:54.385
BY DECEITFUL OR DISHONEST MEANS.

01:00:54.396 --> 01:00:55.941
FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP DID NOT

01:00:55.975 --> 01:00:58.476
ENGAGE IN A PLAN TO DEFRAUD THE

01:00:58.478 --> 01:00:59.900
UNITED STATES ACTING ALONE.

01:00:59.911 --> 01:01:01.290
HE ENTERED INTO AGREEMENTS,

01:01:01.301 --> 01:01:03.898
FORMAL AND INFORMAL, WITH

01:01:03.899 --> 01:01:06.115
SEVERAL OTHER INDIVIDUALS WHO

01:01:06.116 --> 01:01:07.738
ASSISTED HIM WITH HIS CRIMINAL

01:01:07.739 --> 01:01:08.223
OBJECTIVES.

01:01:08.257 --> 01:01:10.971
OUR REPORT DESCRIBES IN DETAIL

01:01:10.982 --> 01:01:12.398
THE ACTIONS OF NUMEROUS

01:01:12.399 --> 01:01:15.899
CO-CONSPIRATORS, WHO AGREED WITH
AND PARTICIPATED IN TRUMP’S PLAN

01:01:15.910 --> 01:01:18.062
AND PARTICIPATED IN TRUMP’S PLAN

01:01:18.073 --> 01:01:23.482
TO IMPAIR, OBSTRUCT, AND DEFEAT

01:01:23.515 --> 01:01:26.205
THIS PRESIDENT BIDEN’S ELECTORAL

01:01:26.216 --> 01:01:27.008
VICTORY.

01:01:27.041 --> 01:01:29.166
THE SUB SUBCOMMITTEY DOES NOT

01:01:29.177 --> 01:01:30.687
ATTEMPT TO DETERMINE ALL OF THE

01:01:30.721 --> 01:01:31.932
PARTICIPANTS IN THIS CONSPIRACY,

01:01:31.943 --> 01:01:34.181
AS OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THE ROLE

01:01:34.192 --> 01:01:35.837
OF MANY INDIVIDUALS MAY BE

01:01:35.872 --> 01:01:37.950
INCOMPLETE, EVEN TODAY, BECAUSE

01:01:37.961 --> 01:01:39.450
THEY REFUSE TO ANSWER OUR

01:01:39.484 --> 01:01:39.729
QUESTIONS.

01:01:39.740 --> 01:01:40.003
.

01:01:40.014 --> 01:01:41.838
WE TRUST THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF

01:01:41.872 --> 01:01:44.074
JUSTICE WILL BE ABLE TO FORM A

01:01:44.076 --> 01:01:46.709
FAR MORE COMPLETE PICTURE

01:01:46.720 --> 01:01:48.437
THROUGH ITS OWN INVESTIGATION.

01:01:48.448 --> 01:01:54.373
THIRD, WE MAKE A REFERRAL BASED

01:01:54.384 --> 01:01:58.426
ON TITLE 18 SECTION 1011, WHICH

01:01:58.437 --> 01:01:59.719
SAYING KNOWINGLY AND WILLFULLY

01:01:59.753 --> 01:02:01.300
MAKE FALSE STATEMENTS TO THE

01:02:01.311 --> 01:02:02.290
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

01:02:02.301 --> 01:02:03.560
THE EVIDENCE CLEARLY SUGGESTS

01:02:03.595 --> 01:02:06.270
THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP CONSPIRED

01:02:06.281 --> 01:02:08.197
WITH OTHERS TO SUBMIT SLATES OF

01:02:08.231 --> 01:02:10.194
FAKE ELECTORS TO CONGRESS AND

01:02:10.205 --> 01:02:11.319
THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES.

01:02:11.330 --> 01:02:14.020
WE BELIEVE THAT THIS EVIDENCE

01:02:14.053 --> 01:02:16.128
WAS SET FORTH IN OUR REPORT, IS

01:02:16.130 --> 01:02:17.935
MORE THAN SUFFICIENT FOR A

01:02:17.946 --> 01:02:19.204
CRIMINAL REFERRAL OF FORMER

01:02:19.215 --> 01:02:20.944
PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP AND

01:02:20.978 --> 01:02:22.612
OTHERS, IN CONNECTION WITH THIS

01:02:22.613 --> 01:02:23.002
OFFENSE.

01:02:23.013 --> 01:02:24.912
AS BEFORE, WE DON’T TRY TO

01:02:24.946 --> 01:02:26.648
DETERMINE ALL OF THE

01:02:26.659 --> 01:02:28.138
PARTICIPANTS IN THIS CONSPIRACY,

01:02:28.173 --> 01:02:30.877
MANY OF WHOM REFUSE TO ANSWER

01:02:30.888 --> 01:02:32.565
OUR QUESTIONS WHILE UNDER OATH.

01:02:32.576 --> 01:02:33.952
WE TRUST THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF

01:02:33.986 --> 01:02:36.339
JUSTICE WILL BE ABLE TO FORM A

01:02:36.350 --> 01:02:38.044
MORE COMPLETE PICTURE THROUGH

01:02:38.055 --> 01:02:39.457
ITS OWN INVESTIGATION.

01:02:39.491 --> 01:02:41.862
THE FOURTH AND FINAL STATUTE WE

01:02:41.873 --> 01:02:44.780
INVOKE FOR REFERRAL IS TITLE 18

01:02:44.782 --> 01:02:46.098
SECTION 2383.

01:02:46.109 --> 01:02:49.973
THE STATUTE APPLIES TO ANYONE

01:02:49.974 --> 01:02:52.010
WHO INCITES, ASSISTS, OR ENGAGES

01:02:52.021 --> 01:02:53.366
IN INSURRECTION AGAINST THE

01:02:53.367 --> 01:02:56.437
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND

01:02:56.471 --> 01:02:59.215
ANYONE WHO GIVES AID OR COMFORT

01:02:59.226 --> 01:03:00.701
TO AN INSURRECTION.

01:03:00.712 --> 01:03:03.071
AN INSURRECTION IS A REBELLION

01:03:03.105 --> 01:03:04.467
AGAINST THE AUTHORITY OF THE

01:03:04.478 --> 01:03:06.242
UNITED STATES.

01:03:06.276 --> 01:03:09.602
IT IS A GRAVE FEDERAL OFFENSE.

01:03:09.613 --> 01:03:10.888
ANCHORED IN THE CONSTITUTION

01:03:10.899 --> 01:03:12.137
ITSELF.

01:03:12.170 --> 01:03:13.932
WHICH REPEATEDLY OPPOSING

01:03:13.943 --> 01:03:15.565
INSURRECTIONS AND DOMESTIC

01:03:15.576 --> 01:03:18.137
VIOLENCE, AND INDEED USES

01:03:18.148 --> 01:03:19.714
PARTICIPATION IN INSURRECTION BY

01:03:19.747 --> 01:03:21.250
OFFICEHOLDERS AS AUTOMATIC

01:03:21.251 --> 01:03:22.607
GROUNDS FOR DISQUALIFICATION

01:03:22.608 --> 01:03:25.607
FROM EVER HOLDING PUBLIC OFFICE

01:03:25.609 --> 01:03:27.546
AGAIN AT THE FEDERAL OR STATE

01:03:27.548 --> 01:03:28.021
LEVEL.

01:03:28.032 --> 01:03:31.342
ANYONE WHO INCITES OTHERS TO

01:03:31.353 --> 01:03:33.207
ENGAGE IN REBELLING, ASSISTS

01:03:33.218 --> 01:03:36.312
THEM IN DOING SO, OR GIVES AID

01:03:36.323 --> 01:03:38.521
AND COMFORT TO THOSE ENGAGED IN

01:03:38.555 --> 01:03:40.259
AN INSURRECTION IS GUILTY OF A

01:03:40.270 --> 01:03:41.557
FEDERAL CRIME.

01:03:41.568 --> 01:03:43.694
THE COMMITTEE BELIEVES THAT MORE

01:03:43.705 --> 01:03:45.913
THAN SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE EXISTS

01:03:45.948 --> 01:03:50.246
FOR A CRIMINAL REFERRAL OF

01:03:50.247 --> 01:03:51.961
FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP, FOR

01:03:51.972 --> 01:03:53.149
ASSISTING OR AIDING AND

01:03:53.160 --> 01:03:54.520
COMFORTING THOSE AT THE CAPITOL

01:03:54.554 --> 01:03:55.831
WHO ENGAGED IN A VIOLENT ATTACK

01:03:55.842 --> 01:03:57.919
ON THE UNITED STATES.

01:03:57.930 --> 01:03:59.334
THE COMMITTEE HAS DEVELOPED

01:03:59.345 --> 01:04:00.793
SIGNIFICANT EVIDENCE THAT

01:04:00.804 --> 01:04:03.066
PRESIDENT TRUMP INTENDED TO

01:04:03.077 --> 01:04:05.664
DISRUPT THE PEACEFUL TRANSFER,

01:04:05.665 --> 01:04:07.529
TRANSITION OF POWER, UNDER OUR

01:04:07.563 --> 01:04:08.120
CONSTITUTION.

01:04:08.131 --> 01:04:12.113
THE PRESIDENT HAS AN AFFIRMATIVE

01:04:12.124 --> 01:04:13.722
AND PRIMARY CONSTITUTIONAL

01:04:13.757 --> 01:04:15.747
RESPONSIBILITY TO ACTS, TO TAKE

01:04:15.758 --> 01:04:17.195
CARE THAT THE LAWS BE FAITHFULLY

01:04:17.206 --> 01:04:17.677
EXECUTED.

01:04:17.688 --> 01:04:19.650
NOTHING COULD BE A GREATER

01:04:19.685 --> 01:04:22.219
BETRAYAL OF THIS DUTY THAN TO

01:04:22.220 --> 01:04:24.183
ASSIST IN INSURRECTION AGAINST

01:04:24.194 --> 01:04:25.634
THE CONSTITUTIONAL ORDER.

01:04:25.668 --> 01:04:27.856
THE COMPLETE FACTUAL BASIS FOR

01:04:27.857 --> 01:04:30.709
THIS REFERRAL IS SET FORTH IN

01:04:30.720 --> 01:04:31.960
DETAIL THROUGHOUT OUR REPORT.

01:04:31.971 --> 01:04:34.083
THESE ARE NOT THE ONLY STATUTES

01:04:34.094 --> 01:04:36.184
THAT ARE POTENTIALLY RELEVANT TO

01:04:36.185 --> 01:04:37.490
PRESIDENT TRUMP’S CONDUCT

01:04:37.492 --> 01:04:38.806
RELATED TO THE 2020 ELECTION.

01:04:38.817 --> 01:04:40.191
DEPENDING ON EVIDENCE DEVELOPED

01:04:40.224 --> 01:04:41.804
BY THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE,

01:04:41.815 --> 01:04:45.464
THE PRESIDENT’S ACTIONS CAN

01:04:45.498 --> 01:04:47.475
CERTAINLY TRIGGER OTHER CRIMINAL

01:04:47.476 --> 01:04:47.736
VIOLATIONS.

01:04:47.747 --> 01:04:48.988
FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE

01:04:48.999 --> 01:04:50.629
IMMEDIATE TEAM, THE ONLY PEOPLE

01:04:50.640 --> 01:04:52.988
IDENTIFIED FOR REFERRALS IN OUR

01:04:53.022 --> 01:04:54.470
REPORT, AS PART OF OUR

01:04:54.481 --> 01:04:55.763
INVESTIGATION, WE ASKED MULTIPLE

01:04:55.797 --> 01:04:57.768
MEMBERS OF CONGRESS TO SPEAK

01:04:57.779 --> 01:04:59.984
WITH US ABOUT ISSUES CRITICAL TO

01:05:00.017 --> 01:05:01.999
OUR UNDERSTANDING OF THIS ATTACK

01:05:02.010 --> 01:05:05.091
ON THE 2020 ELECTION, AND OUR

01:05:05.102 --> 01:05:06.049
SYSTEM OF CONSTITUTIONAL

01:05:06.084 --> 01:05:07.224
DEMOCRACY.

01:05:07.235 --> 01:05:10.400
NONE AGREED TO PROVIDE THAT

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ESSENTIAL INFORMATION.

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AS A RESULT, WE TOOK THE

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SIGNIFICANT STEP OF ISSUING THEM

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SUBPOENAS BASED ON THE VOLUME OF

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INFORMATION PARTICULAR MEMBERS

01:05:18.003 --> 01:05:20.750
POSSESSED ABOUT ONE OR MORE

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PARTS OF PRESIDENT TRUMP’S PLANS

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TO OVERTURN THE ELECTION.

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NONE OF THE SUBPOENAED MEMBERS

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COMPLIED.

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AND WE ARE NOW REFERRING FOUR

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MEMBERS OF CONGRESS FOR

01:05:30.765 --> 01:05:32.078
APPROPRIATE SANCTION, BY THE

01:05:32.112 --> 01:05:34.435
HOUSE ETHICS COMMITTEE, FOR

01:05:34.446 --> 01:05:36.166
FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH LAWFUL

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SUBPOENAS.

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MR. CHAIRMAN, WE UNDERSTAND THE

01:05:38.653 --> 01:05:40.601
GRAVITY OF EACH AND EVERY

01:05:40.603 --> 01:05:42.398
REFERRAL WE ARE MAKING TODAY.

01:05:42.409 --> 01:05:45.102
JUST AS WE UNDERSTAND THE

01:05:45.136 --> 01:05:47.024
MAGNITUDE OF THE CRIME AGAINST

01:05:47.035 --> 01:05:48.483
DEMOCRACY THAT WE DESCRIBE IN

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OUR REPORT.

01:05:49.692 --> 01:05:52.246
BUT WE HAVE GONE WHERE THE FACTS

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AND THE LAW LEAD US, AND

01:05:54.399 --> 01:05:55.693
INESCAPABLY, THEY LEAD US HERE.

01:05:55.704 --> 01:05:57.516
ACCORDINGLY, MR. CHAIRMAN, IN

01:05:57.527 --> 01:05:59.278
LIGHT OF THESE FACTS, I ASK

01:05:59.312 --> 01:06:01.025
UNANIMOUS CONSENT THAT THE

01:06:01.027 --> 01:06:03.665
CHAIRMAN BE DIRECTED TO TRANSMIT

01:06:03.676 --> 01:06:05.184
TO THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT

01:06:05.195 --> 01:06:07.133
OF JUSTICE RELEVANT SELECT

01:06:07.134 --> 01:06:09.982
COMMITTEE RECORDS IN FURTHERANCE

01:06:09.983 --> 01:06:12.333
OF THESE CRIMINAL REFERRALS.

01:06:12.334 --> 01:06:13.665
>> WITHOUT OBJECTION, SO

01:06:13.676 --> 01:06:14.019
ORDERED.

01:06:14.052 --> 01:06:17.705
>> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

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I NOW YIELD BACK.

01:06:20.610 --> 01:06:23.233
>> THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK.

01:06:23.244 --> 01:06:26.900
SO TO NOTICE, I NOW CALL UP

01:06:26.911 --> 01:06:28.680
SELECT COMMITTEE’S FINAL REPORT,

01:06:28.691 --> 01:06:31.284
PURSUANT TO SECTION 4-A OF HOUSE

01:06:31.295 --> 01:06:32.435
RESOLUTION 503.

01:06:32.470 --> 01:06:34.060
THE CLERK SHALL DESIGNATE THE

01:06:34.071 --> 01:06:34.484
REPORT.

01:06:34.495 --> 01:06:36.088
>> FINAL REPORT OF THE SELECT

01:06:36.099 --> 01:06:38.311
COMMITTEE TO INVESTIGATE THE

01:06:38.344 --> 01:06:40.480
JANUARY 6th ATTACK ON THE UNITED

01:06:40.481 --> 01:06:41.948
STATES CAPITOL.

01:06:41.959 --> 01:06:44.730
>> WITHOUT OBJECTION, THE REPORT

01:06:44.741 --> 01:06:48.476
WILL BE CONSIDERED READ AND OPEN

01:06:48.487 --> 01:06:51.496
TO AMENDMENT AT THIS POINT.

01:06:51.507 --> 01:06:54.045
I NOW RECOGNIZE THE GENTLEWOMAN

01:06:54.056 --> 01:06:55.744
FROM VIRGINIA, MS. LURIA, FOR A

01:06:55.778 --> 01:06:56.239
MOTION.

01:06:56.240 --> 01:06:58.601
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE THAT THE

01:06:58.612 --> 01:07:00.507
COMMITTEE FAVORABLY REPORT TO

01:07:00.540 --> 01:07:02.409
THE HOUSE THE SELECT COMMITTEE’S

01:07:02.420 --> 01:07:05.139
FINAL REPORT, WHICH INCLUDES THE

01:07:05.150 --> 01:07:06.491
COMMITTEE’S LEGISLATIVE

01:07:06.525 --> 01:07:08.335
RECOMMENDATIONS AND CRIMINAL

01:07:08.346 --> 01:07:10.601
REFERRALS OF DONALD J. TRUMP AND

01:07:10.612 --> 01:07:11.467
OTHERS.

01:07:11.501 --> 01:07:14.923
PURSUANT TO SECTION 4-A OF HOUSE

01:07:14.934 --> 01:07:15.626
RESOLUTION 503.

01:07:15.660 --> 01:07:18.840
>> THE QUESTION IS ON THE MOTION

01:07:18.841 --> 01:07:20.318
TO FAVORABLY REPORT TO THE

01:07:20.329 --> 01:07:20.780
HOUSE.

01:07:20.791 --> 01:07:22.920
THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

01:07:22.921 --> 01:07:24.424
>> AYE.

01:07:24.435 --> 01:07:26.691
>> THOSE OPPOSED, NO.

01:07:26.702 --> 01:07:29.259
IN THE OPINION OF THE CHAIR, THE

01:07:29.270 --> 01:07:31.019
AYEs HAVE IT.

01:07:31.030 --> 01:07:32.938
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, I REQUEST A

01:07:32.972 --> 01:07:33.942
RECORDED VOTE.

01:07:33.953 --> 01:07:35.836
>> A RECORDED VOTE IS REQUESTED.

01:07:35.847 --> 01:07:37.378
THE CLERK WILL CALL THE ROLL.

01:07:37.412 --> 01:07:38.339
>> MS. CAINY.

01:07:38.350 --> 01:07:40.730
>> AYE.

01:07:40.741 --> 01:07:42.224
>> MS. CAINY,Y.

01:07:42.258 --> 01:07:43.329
>> MS. LOFGREN.

01:07:43.340 --> 01:07:44.261
>> AYE.

01:07:44.272 --> 01:07:45.836
>> MS. LOFGREN, AYE.

01:07:45.847 --> 01:07:46.614
>> MR. SCHIFF.

01:07:46.648 --> 01:07:47.566
>> AYE.

01:07:47.577 --> 01:07:51.130
>> MR. SCHIFF SCHIFF, AYE.

01:07:51.141 --> 01:07:52.792
>> MR. AGUILAR.

01:07:52.826 --> 01:07:54.046
>> AYE.

01:07:54.057 --> 01:07:54.988
>> MRS. MURPHY.

01:07:54.999 --> 01:07:56.146
>> AYE.

01:07:56.157 --> 01:07:58.929
>> MRS. MURPHY, AYE.

01:07:58.940 --> 01:07:59.963
>> MRS. RASKIN.

01:07:59.974 --> 01:08:00.998
>> AYE.

01:08:01.009 --> 01:08:01.957
>> MRS. LURIA?

01:08:01.968 --> 01:08:03.017
>> AYE.

01:08:03.028 --> 01:08:05.220
>> MRS. LURIA, AYE.

01:08:05.231 --> 01:08:06.075
>> MR. KINZINGER.

01:08:06.108 --> 01:08:08.117
>> AYE.

01:08:08.118 --> 01:08:10.495
>> MR. KINZINGER, AYE.

01:08:10.506 --> 01:08:13.233
>> HOW DOES THE CHAIR RECORDED?

01:08:13.234 --> 01:08:14.821
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, YOU ARE NOT

01:08:14.832 --> 01:08:15.451
RECORDED.

01:08:15.462 --> 01:08:18.181
>> THE CHAIR VOTES AYE.

01:08:18.215 --> 01:08:21.209
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, AYE.

01:08:21.220 --> 01:08:23.536
>> THE CLERK WILL REPORT THE

01:08:23.547 --> 01:08:24.629
VOTE.

01:08:24.664 --> 01:08:28.442
>> MR. CHAIRMAN, ON THIS VOTE,

01:08:28.453 --> 01:08:30.478
THERE ARE NINE AYEs AND ZERO

01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:30.777
NO’S.

01:08:30.788 --> 01:08:32.534
>> AND AS AGREED TO, WITHOUT

01:08:32.535 --> 01:08:34.945
OBJECTION, A MOTION TO

01:08:34.946 --> 01:08:37.493
RECONSIDER IS LAID ON THE TABLE.

01:08:37.504 --> 01:08:39.681
WITHOUT OBJECTION, STAFF IS

01:08:39.692 --> 01:08:42.016
AUTHORIZED TO MAKE ANY NECESSARY

01:08:42.027 --> 01:08:43.865
TECHNICAL OR CONFORMING CHANGES

01:08:43.876 --> 01:08:46.446
TO THE REPORT, TO REFLECT THAT

01:08:46.457 --> 01:08:47.763
ACTIONS OF THE COMMITTEE, THE

01:08:47.774 --> 01:08:50.027
CHAIR REQUESTS THOSE IN THE

01:08:50.038 --> 01:08:52.071
HEARING ROOM REMAIN SEATED UNTIL

01:08:52.082 --> 01:08:54.694
THE CAPITOL POLICE HAVE ESCORTED

01:08:54.728 --> 01:08:57.074
MEMBERS FROM THE ROOM.

01:08:57.076 --> 01:08:58.542
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS,