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ACTING ATTORNEY GENERAL,

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GOVERNORS, DEFENSE OFFICIALS

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PLEADING FOR HELP, ASKING FOR
THE FBI AND THE NATIONAL GUARD,

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THE FBI AND THE NATIONAL GUARD,

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KATY, I WANT TO BRING IN MICHAEL

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BESCHLOSS HERE, AND NONE OF THEM

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TESTIFIED UNDER SUBPOENA, AND

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PRESIDENT CLINTON REPORTED

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VOLUNTARILY, AND RICHARD NIXON

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FOR TAPES.

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JEFFERSON REFUSED.

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NIXON RESIGNED.

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SO THAT THE SUBPOENA WAS NO

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LONGER OPT TIVE.OPERATIVE.

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AND BILL CLINTON TO TESTIFY, AND

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HE DID SO VOLUNTARILY.

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BUT KATY, AN EXTRAORDINARY

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HEARING, DRAMATIC HEARING.

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>> AND ALSO FORCED THE

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RESIGNATION OF RICHARD NIXON,

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THE SUPREME COURT SAID THAT

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THOSE TAPES WERE RELEVANT, AND

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HE COULDN’T WITHHOLD THEM.

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BILL CLINTON ENDED UP

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VOLUNTARILY TESTIFYING AS YOU

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SAID.

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AND I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOME

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LEVEL OF COOPERATION FROM

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JEFFERSON.

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SO THIS IS NOW UP TO DONALD

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TRUMP, WHETHER HE WILL COMPLY

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WITH THIS, BUT WE SHOULD ALSO

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NOTE THERE IS A TIME FRAME ON

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IT.

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IT EXPIRES WHEN THIS CONGRESS

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EXPIRES, AND WE’RE NOW JUST 24

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OR 26 DAYS, LESS THAN AMENT AWAY

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FROM THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS,

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WHERE CONTROL OF CONGRESS WILL

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BE DECIDED.

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CONTROL OF THE HOUSE.

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CONTROL OF THE SENATE.

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AND HONESTLY, THOUGH IT IS

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ANYONE’S GUESS WHAT IS GOING TO

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HAPPEN THERE.

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THERE IS POLLING OUT THERE, BUT

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THE POLLING, WHO KNOWS, IN THIS

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MOMENT, SO REALLY ANYONE’S GUESS

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ABOUT WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN TO THIS

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PANEL, WE DO KNOW THAT LIZ

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CHENEY WILL CERTAINLY NOT BE ON

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IT, BECAUSE SHE LOST HER

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PRIMARY, AND WILL NOT BE ABLE TO

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RUN FOR GENERAL ELECTION, RUN

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FOR HER SEAT AGAIN.

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LET’S BRING IN MICHAEL

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BESCHLOSS, HISTORIAN AND BEN

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COLLINS AND CHUCK ROSENBERG AND

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MICHAEL, GIVE US A HISTORY OF

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THIS, WHERE DOES THIS FIT IN?

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>> JUST AS YOU AND ANDREA, HAVE

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BEEN SAYING, THIS HAS HAPPENED

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BEFORE IN HISTORY.

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YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE UNDER THE

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IMPRESSION THAT BECAUSE THESE

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ARE TWO SEPARATE BRANCHES,

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EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE, THAT

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WE HAVEN’T HAD A SITUATION WHERE

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PRESIDENTS HAVE BEEN CALLED TO

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TESTIFY, JUST AS YOU HAVE SAID,

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WE HAVE SEEN THAT WITH JOHNSON

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AND NIXON AND BILL CLINTON, AND

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THE OTHER THING IS THAT, YOU

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KNOW, I THINK WE’LL PROBABLY

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HEAR FROM THE TRUMP CAMP THAT

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PRESIDENTS DON’T TESTIFY BEFORE

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CONGRESS, AND LOOK AT THE RECORD

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OF WHAT WE’VE JUST MENTIONED,

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BECAUSE THERE ARE NO IMAGES OF

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THOSE PRESIDENTS BEHIND THE

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WITNESS TABLE, YOU KNOW, IN A

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HEARING.

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WELL, ANYONE WHO SAYS THAT, TAKE

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A LOOK AT OCTOBER 17, 1974.

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EXACTLY THIS WEEK, IN 1974.

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GERALD FORD HAD BEEN IN OFFICE

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FOR TWO MONTHS.

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HE HAD PARDONED RICHARD NIXON AT

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THE BEGINNING OF SEPTEMBER.

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THERE WAS A FIRESTORM ABOUT

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THIS.

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THERE WERE QUESTIONS ABOUT

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WHETHER FORD HAD MADE SOME

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SECRET DEAL WITH NIXON TO GRANT

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HIM A PARDON IN EXCHANGE FOR

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NIXON ALLOWING LIMB HIM TO

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SUCCEED AS PRESIDENT OF THE

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UNITED STATES.

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GERALD FORD, ALTHOUGH HOUSE

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MAJORITY LEADER AND LEADER OF

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THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES FOR

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DECADES, AND HAD A STRONG SENSE

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OF HOUSE PREROGATIVES, HE FELT

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THAT THE QUESTION WAS SO

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IMPORTANT, THAT HE WANTED TO GO

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TO THE HOUSE AND ANSWER

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QUESTIONS FREELY SO THAT NO

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MEMBER OF CONGRESS, NO AMERICAN

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WOULD HAVE ANY DOUBT FROM HIS

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POINT OF VIEW THAT HIS PARDON