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SOMETHING THAT’S GOING TO GIVE
US SAFETY AT OUR BORDER.

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US SAFETY AT OUR BORDER.
MADAM SECRETARY?

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MADAM SECRETARY?
>> PRESIDENT TRUMP IN THE OVAL

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>> PRESIDENT TRUMP IN THE OVAL
OFFICE MOMENTS AGO, HE WILL

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OFFICE MOMENTS AGO, HE WILL
VETO -- IN FACT HE HAS NOW

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VETO -- IN FACT HE HAS NOW
VETOED THAT TERMINATION OF HIS

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VETOED THAT TERMINATION OF HIS
NATIONAL EMERGENCY DECLARATION,

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NATIONAL EMERGENCY DECLARATION,
THE PRESIDENT SAYING IT’S A

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THE PRESIDENT SAYING IT’S A
TREMENDOUS NATIONAL EMERGENCY, A

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TREMENDOUS NATIONAL EMERGENCY, A
TREMENDOUS CRISIS.

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TREMENDOUS CRISIS.
AGAIN REFERRING TO IT AS

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AGAIN REFERRING TO IT AS
DANGEROUS AND RECKLESS WHAT’S

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DANGEROUS AND RECKLESS WHAT’S
TAKING PLACE, SPECIFICALLY

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TAKING PLACE, SPECIFICALLY
REFERRING TO THAT MEASURE THAT

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REFERRING TO THAT MEASURE THAT
WAS SIGNED ON BY 12 REPUBLICANS.

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WAS SIGNED ON BY 12 REPUBLICANS.
WE HAVE OUR TABLE BACK WITH US

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WE HAVE OUR TABLE BACK WITH US
HERE.

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HERE.
I FEEL LIKE WE’VE HEARD THIS SO

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I FEEL LIKE WE’VE HEARD THIS SO
MANY TIMES FROM THE PRESIDENT

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MANY TIMES FROM THE PRESIDENT
AND THE OVAL OFFICE IN THE ROSE

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AND THE OVAL OFFICE IN THE ROSE
GARDEN AND EVERY OPPORTUNITY WE

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GARDEN AND EVERY OPPORTUNITY WE
HEAR FROM THEM.

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HEAR FROM THEM.
IT DOESN’T CHANGE THE FACT

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IT DOESN’T CHANGE THE FACT
APPREHENSIONS ARE AT A SEVERAL

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APPREHENSIONS ARE AT A SEVERAL
DECADES LOW AT THIS POINT.

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DECADES LOW AT THIS POINT.
BUT WHAT IT DOES REINFORCE IS

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BUT WHAT IT DOES REINFORCE IS
REPUBLICANS CAN’T OVERRIDE THIS.

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REPUBLICANS CAN’T OVERRIDE THIS.
NOT GOING TO JOIN THEM HERE.

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NOT GOING TO JOIN THEM HERE.
THE PRESIDENT HAS BASICALLY HAD

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THE PRESIDENT HAS BASICALLY HAD
CONGRESS AT HIS BACK FOR THE

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CONGRESS AT HIS BACK FOR THE
ENTIRE TIME AND HE’S GOING TO

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ENTIRE TIME AND HE’S GOING TO
KEEP ARROWING THROUGH, DOESN’T

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KEEP ARROWING THROUGH, DOESN’T
IT, JOHNATHAN?

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IT, JOHNATHAN?
>> THIS PHASE, IT REALLY IS THE

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>> THIS PHASE, IT REALLY IS THE
GO IT ALONE PRESIDENCY AT THIS

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GO IT ALONE PRESIDENCY AT THIS
POINT.

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POINT.
ANYTHING MULVANEY, THE CHIEF OF

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ANYTHING MULVANEY, THE CHIEF OF
STAFF HAS SPOKEN IN VERY BLUNT

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STAFF HAS SPOKEN IN VERY BLUNT
TERMS INTERNALLY THAT THEY

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TERMS INTERNALLY THAT THEY
CANNOT ALLOW CONGRESS TO GET

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CANNOT ALLOW CONGRESS TO GET
ANYTHING DONE SO I THINK WE WILL

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ANYTHING DONE SO I THINK WE WILL
SEE A LOT MORE UNILATERAL ACTION

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SEE A LOT MORE UNILATERAL ACTION
FROM THE PRESIDENT.

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FROM THE PRESIDENT.
THEY’RE USING THEIR LAWYERS IN

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THEY’RE USING THEIR LAWYERS IN
EVER MORE CREATIVE WAYS SUCH AS

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EVER MORE CREATIVE WAYS SUCH AS
THIS EXAMPLE BUT ALSO WE’RE

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THIS EXAMPLE BUT ALSO WE’RE
GOING TO SEE THEM DROP ALL SORTS

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GOING TO SEE THEM DROP ALL SORTS
OF EXECUTIVE ORDERS TO GO OVER

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OF EXECUTIVE ORDERS TO GO OVER
THE HEADS OF CONGRESS.

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THE HEADS OF CONGRESS.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT’S MUCH

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THIS IS SOMETHING THAT’S MUCH
BIGGER THAN THIS PARTICULAR

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BIGGER THAN THIS PARTICULAR
ACTION.

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ACTION.
>> ELLIOTT, LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT

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>> ELLIOTT, LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT
WHERE THIS GOES NEXT.

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WHERE THIS GOES NEXT.
CONGRESS, YOU NEED BOTH CHAMBERS

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CONGRESS, YOU NEED BOTH CHAMBERS
TO HAVE A TWO-THIRDS VOTE TO

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TO HAVE A TWO-THIRDS VOTE TO
OVERRIDE THE

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OVERRIDE THE
OVERRIDE VETO.

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OVERRIDE VETO.
THEY DON’T HAVE THAT HERE.

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THEY DON’T HAVE THAT HERE.
SO WHAT HAPPENS NEXT, THIS GOES

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SO WHAT HAPPENS NEXT, THIS GOES
TO THE COURTS AND THE PRESIDENT

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TO THE COURTS AND THE PRESIDENT
SEEMED TO UNDERCUT HIS OWN

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SEEMED TO UNDERCUT HIS OWN
ARGUMENT BY SAYING I DIDN’T NEED

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ARGUMENT BY SAYING I DIDN’T NEED
TO DO THIS, I JUST WANTED TO DO

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TO DO THIS, I JUST WANTED TO DO
IT FASTER BUT DOES IT HELP THESE

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IT FASTER BUT DOES IT HELP THESE
MEASURES EXIST, REPUBLICANS SIGN

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MEASURES EXIST, REPUBLICANS SIGN
ON AND BASICALLY DO CONGRESS SAY

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ON AND BASICALLY DO CONGRESS SAY
HEY, WE’RE NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU

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HEY, WE’RE NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU
THIS MONEY AND THEY FOLLOWED UP

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THIS MONEY AND THEY FOLLOWED UP
WITH THIS WITH NO, DON’T DO

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WITH THIS WITH NO, DON’T DO
THIS?

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THIS?
>> NOT ONLY THAT, CONGRESS IS

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>> NOT ONLY THAT, CONGRESS IS
ITSELF A PARTY THAT CAN

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ITSELF A PARTY THAT CAN
CHALLENGE THE LEGALITY OF THE

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CHALLENGE THE LEGALITY OF THE
PRESIDENT’S ACTIONS BECAUSE

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PRESIDENT’S ACTIONS BECAUSE
THEY’RE THE ONE WHO WAS WRONGED.

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THEY’RE THE ONE WHO WAS WRONGED.
IN THE LAW YOU HAVE SOMETHING

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IN THE LAW YOU HAVE SOMETHING
CALLED STANDING, WHEN YOU’RE

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CALLED STANDING, WHEN YOU’RE
HURT, YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO SUE.

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HURT, YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO SUE.
SAY IT ONCE MORE WITH FEELING,

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SAY IT ONCE MORE WITH FEELING,
CONGRESS CONTROLS THE POWER OF

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CONGRESS CONTROLS THE POWER OF
THE PURSE.

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THE PURSE.
THE PRESIDENT DOES NOT.

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THE PRESIDENT DOES NOT.
THEY MADE AN EXPLICIT DECISION

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THEY MADE AN EXPLICIT DECISION
NOT TO FUND THE PRESIDENT’S

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NOT TO FUND THE PRESIDENT’S
WALL.

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WALL.
WHAT WAS STRIKING IN THE

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WHAT WAS STRIKING IN THE
COMMENTS WE JUST HEARD, PETER, A

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COMMENTS WE JUST HEARD, PETER, A
BIT OF AN ASIDE, REASONS HE

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BIT OF AN ASIDE, REASONS HE
CITED FOR REASONS OF THE

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CITED FOR REASONS OF THE
EMERGENCY, CATCH AND RELEASE,

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EMERGENCY, CATCH AND RELEASE,
VISA LOTTERY AND CHAIN

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VISA LOTTERY AND CHAIN
MIGRATION, NONE OF THEM WOULD BE

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MIGRATION, NONE OF THEM WOULD BE
CHANGED BY BUILDING A WALL.

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CHANGED BY BUILDING A WALL.
THOSE ARE IMMIGRATION POLICY

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THOSE ARE IMMIGRATION POLICY
MATTERS, NOT A FUNCTION OF

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MATTERS, NOT A FUNCTION OF
PEOPLE STREAMING ACROSS THE

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PEOPLE STREAMING ACROSS THE
BORDER THAT THERE’S SOME SORT OF

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BORDER THAT THERE’S SOME SORT OF
EMERGENCY.

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EMERGENCY.
EVERY TIME HE OPENS HIS MOUTH,

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EVERY TIME HE OPENS HIS MOUTH,
HE UNDERMINES HIS CASE FOR THE

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HE UNDERMINES HIS CASE FOR THE
NATIONAL EMERGENCY.

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NATIONAL EMERGENCY.
ALL OF THESE VOTES, THIS MOST

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ALL OF THESE VOTES, THIS MOST
RECENT ONE CAN BE USED IN COURT

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RECENT ONE CAN BE USED IN COURT
BY CONGRESS.

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BY CONGRESS.
THE OTHER THING IF WE EVER REACH

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THE OTHER THING IF WE EVER REACH
THE POINT WHERE WE GET TO

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THE POINT WHERE WE GET TO
CONSTRUCTION, WHICH PROBABLY NOT

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CONSTRUCTION, WHICH PROBABLY NOT
BECAUSE I T WILL TAKE A LONG

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BECAUSE I T WILL TAKE A LONG
TIME, ANYBODY WHOSE PROPERTY IS

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TIME, ANYBODY WHOSE PROPERTY IS
SEIZED AT THE BORDER, ALL OF

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SEIZED AT THE BORDER, ALL OF
THAT IS PRIVATE LAND IN TEXAS.

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THAT IS PRIVATE LAND IN TEXAS.
>> DOMAIN ISSUES AS WELL.

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>> DOMAIN ISSUES AS WELL.
>> A LOT OF LEGAL ISSUES.

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>> A LOT OF LEGAL ISSUES.
ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO COME TO

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ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO COME TO
COURT.

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COURT.
NO GROUND IS BEING BROKEN ON

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NO GROUND IS BEING BROKEN ON
ANYTHING ANY TIME SOON JUST

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ANYTHING ANY TIME SOON JUST
BECAUSE OF ALL OF THIS

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BECAUSE OF ALL OF THIS
LITIGATION.

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LITIGATION.
>> SHELLBY, I WANT TO ASK YOU

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>> SHELLBY, I WANT TO ASK YOU
ABOUT THIS MOMENT, TWO SENATORS

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ABOUT THIS MOMENT, TWO SENATORS
UP FOR RE-ELECTION, TOM TILLIS

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UP FOR RE-ELECTION, TOM TILLIS
SAID I OPPOSE TO EMERGENCY A FEW

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SAID I OPPOSE TO EMERGENCY A FEW
WEEKS AGO BUT YESTERDAY VOTED

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WEEKS AGO BUT YESTERDAY VOTED
WITH THE PRESIDENT.

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WITH THE PRESIDENT.
STRIKINGLY OF THE SEVEN

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STRIKINGLY OF THE SEVEN
REPUBLICAN SENATORS FACING

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REPUBLICAN SENATORS FACING
COMPETITIVE RACES NEXT YEAR, SIX

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COMPETITIVE RACES NEXT YEAR, SIX
VOTED WITH THE PRESIDENT

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VOTED WITH THE PRESIDENT
YESTERDAY.

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YESTERDAY.
SO THERE’S BEEN A MOMENT WHERE I

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SO THERE’S BEEN A MOMENT WHERE I
THINK WE’VE BEEN SAYING, MAYBE

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THINK WE’VE BEEN SAYING, MAYBE
THIS IS A PROFILE ENCOURAGED BY

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THIS IS A PROFILE ENCOURAGED BY
SOME REPUBLICANS.

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SOME REPUBLICANS.
ROB PORTMAN, MITT ROMNEY, OTHERS

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ROB PORTMAN, MITT ROMNEY, OTHERS
SPOKE OUT.

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SPOKE OUT.
BUT ANYBODY FACING A TOUGH RACE

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BUT ANYBODY FACING A TOUGH RACE
ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE NO, I

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ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE NO, I
WILL STICK WITH THIS GUY.

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WILL STICK WITH THIS GUY.
>> THEY DID AND I THINK THAT’S

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>> THEY DID AND I THINK THAT’S
AN IMPORTANT STAT YOU JUST

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AN IMPORTANT STAT YOU JUST
NAMED.

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NAMED.
THEY’RE GETTING FLAK FROM

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THEY’RE GETTING FLAK FROM
REPUBLICANS WHO BELIEVE TRUMP IS

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REPUBLICANS WHO BELIEVE TRUMP IS
OVERSTEPPING HIS BOUNDARIES.

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OVERSTEPPING HIS BOUNDARIES.
I THINK WHAT IN MOMENT IS

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I THINK WHAT IN MOMENT IS
SHOWING US TOO IS EVEN THOUGH

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SHOWING US TOO IS EVEN THOUGH
REPUBLICANS HAVE CRITICIZED

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REPUBLICANS HAVE CRITICIZED
DEMOCRATS AND PRESIDENT OBAMA IN

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DEMOCRATS AND PRESIDENT OBAMA IN
THE PAST FOR HIS EXECUTIVE

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THE PAST FOR HIS EXECUTIVE
OVERREACH, THEY’RE WILLING TO

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OVERREACH, THEY’RE WILLING TO
OVERREACH THEMSELVES.

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OVERREACH THEMSELVES.
SO I THINK A LOT OF REPUBLICANS

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SO I THINK A LOT OF REPUBLICANS
ARE UNEASY ABOUT WHAT DEMOCRATS

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ARE UNEASY ABOUT WHAT DEMOCRATS
WILL DO DOWN THE LINE AND THAT’S

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WILL DO DOWN THE LINE AND THAT’S
WHY WE SAW SOME OF THE

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WHY WE SAW SOME OF THE
DEFECTORS.

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DEFECTORS.
BUT IT’S NOT ENOUGH, TRUMP WILL

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BUT IT’S NOT ENOUGH, TRUMP WILL
OVERRIDE WITH THE VETO AND HE

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OVERRIDE WITH THE VETO AND HE
GETS TO SAY LOOK AT ALL OF THE

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GETS TO SAY LOOK AT ALL OF THE
PEOPLE WHO VOTED WITH ME,

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PEOPLE WHO VOTED WITH ME,
THEY’RE IN MY CORNER AND I’M IN

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THEY’RE IN MY CORNER AND I’M IN
THEIR CORNER.

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THEIR CORNER.
THAT COULD MATTER IN THE NEXT

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THAT COULD MATTER IN THE NEXT
ELECTION.

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ELECTION.
>> NICK, WHAT STRIKES YOU FROM

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>> NICK, WHAT STRIKES YOU FROM
THE PRESIDENT’S REMARKS TODAY?

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THE PRESIDENT’S REMARKS TODAY?
>> HE DIDN’T MENTION HIS OWN

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>> HE DIDN’T MENTION HIS OWN
PARTY ONCE, HE BROUGHT THE

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PARTY ONCE, HE BROUGHT THE
DEMOCRATIC LED EFFORT TO

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DEMOCRATIC LED EFFORT TO
EMBARRASS HIM.

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EMBARRASS HIM.
>> 12 REPUBLICAN SENATORS VOTED

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>> 12 REPUBLICAN SENATORS VOTED
AGAINST HIM, 13 REPUBLICAN HOUSE

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AGAINST HIM, 13 REPUBLICAN HOUSE
MEMBERS.

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MEMBERS.
>> BUT WHAT I HEARD THERE WAS

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>> BUT WHAT I HEARD THERE WAS
THE PRESIDENT’S CAMPAIGN

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THE PRESIDENT’S CAMPAIGN
RATIONAL IN A NUTSHELL.

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RATIONAL IN A NUTSHELL.
YOU HAVE THIS IDEA OF A TERRIBLE

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YOU HAVE THIS IDEA OF A TERRIBLE
INVASION THAT’S NOT TRUE BUT THE

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INVASION THAT’S NOT TRUE BUT THE
INVASION THE BORDER WAS SEEING

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INVASION THE BORDER WAS SEEING
CRIME COME ACROSS AND VIOLENCE

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CRIME COME ACROSS AND VIOLENCE
AND DANGER THAT AMERICA IS AT

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AND DANGER THAT AMERICA IS AT
STAKE IF THIS HOLE ISN’T

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STAKE IF THIS HOLE ISN’T
PLUGGED.

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PLUGGED.
YOU SAW, BY THE WAY, JUST TO SEE

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YOU SAW, BY THE WAY, JUST TO SEE
WHERE THE BALL IS BOUNCING HERE,

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WHERE THE BALL IS BOUNCING HERE,
IMMEDIATELY JUMPS TO LEGAL

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IMMEDIATELY JUMPS TO LEGAL
IMMIGRATION WHEN HE CALLS CHAIN

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IMMIGRATION WHEN HE CALLS CHAIN
MIGRATION.

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MIGRATION.
LOTTERIES AND QUOTAS, THAT’S NOT

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LOTTERIES AND QUOTAS, THAT’S NOT
PART OF LEGAL IMMIGRATION.

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PART OF LEGAL IMMIGRATION.
THAT’S NOT PART OF OUR CURRENT

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THAT’S NOT PART OF OUR CURRENT
POLICY.

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POLICY.
IF HE WANTS TO CHANGE IT, HE CAN

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IF HE WANTS TO CHANGE IT, HE CAN
GO TO CONGRESS AND SAY LET’S DO

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GO TO CONGRESS AND SAY LET’S DO
A BILL.

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A BILL.
INSTEAD HE’S WRAPPED UP IN THIS

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INSTEAD HE’S WRAPPED UP IN THIS
IDEA OF A TERRIBLE EMERGENCY

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IDEA OF A TERRIBLE EMERGENCY
THAT HE’S THE ONLY DOING

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THAT HE’S THE ONLY DOING
ANYTHING ABOUT THAT CAMPAIGN IN

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ANYTHING ABOUT THAT CAMPAIGN IN
2020.

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2020.
>> I THOUGHT THERE WAS NOTHING

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>> I THOUGHT THERE WAS NOTHING
INTERESTING THING, IT MAY COME

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INTERESTING THING, IT MAY COME
UP IN THE VIDEO BUT HE WAS ASKED

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UP IN THE VIDEO BUT HE WAS ASKED
BY ONE OF THESE REPORTERS

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BY ONE OF THESE REPORTERS
WHETHER HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT

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WHETHER HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT
WHITE NATIONALISM BEING ON THE

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WHITE NATIONALISM BEING ON THE
RISE.

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RISE.
>> HE DOES ANSWER THAT SHORTLY.

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>> HE DOES ANSWER THAT SHORTLY.
>> AND TRUMP SAYS NO, HE THINKS

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>> AND TRUMP SAYS NO, HE THINKS
IT’S A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE.

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IT’S A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE.
I THINK THAT’S QUITE STRIKING

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I THINK THAT’S QUITE STRIKING
BECAUSE WE HAVE STATISTICS ON

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BECAUSE WE HAVE STATISTICS ON
THIS AND WE JUST SAW THIS

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THIS AND WE JUST SAW THIS
TERRIBLE KILLING IN NEW ZEALAND

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TERRIBLE KILLING IN NEW ZEALAND
BUT IN AMERICA, THE

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BUT IN AMERICA, THE
ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE, WE HAD

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ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE, WE HAD
STATISTICS WHICH SHOW IT’S

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STATISTICS WHICH SHOW IT’S
SURGING AND IN THE LAST FEW

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SURGING AND IN THE LAST FEW
YEARS IT’S BEEN FAR MORE OF THE

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YEARS IT’S BEEN FAR MORE OF THE
TERRORISM DOMESTICALLY HAS BEEN

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TERRORISM DOMESTICALLY HAS BEEN
FROM THE FAR RIGHT EXTREMISTS

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FROM THE FAR RIGHT EXTREMISTS
THAN ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS.

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THAN ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS.
SO --

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SO --
>> YOU’RE RIGHT, WE’RE GOING TO

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>> YOU’RE RIGHT, WE’RE GOING TO
GET TO THAT TOPIC.

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GET TO THAT TOPIC.
I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH A

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I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH A
SENIOR AIDE, SOMEONE CLOSE TO

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SENIOR AIDE, SOMEONE CLOSE TO
THE PRESIDENT, ONLY A COUPLE

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THE PRESIDENT, ONLY A COUPLE
MONTHS AGO WHEN WE WERE

06:09.040 --> 06:10.674
MONTHS AGO WHEN WE WERE
DISCUSSING THIS ISSUE OF WHITE

06:10.708 --> 06:12.642
DISCUSSING THIS ISSUE OF WHITE
NATIONALISM AND RISE IN HATE

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NATIONALISM AND RISE IN HATE
CRIMES SAID OF THE ADL,

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CRIMES SAID OF THE ADL,
ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE’S

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ANTI-DEFAMATION LEAGUE’S
NUMBERS, I BELIEVE THOSE NUMBERS

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NUMBERS, I BELIEVE THOSE NUMBERS
ARE INFLATED.

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ARE INFLATED.
THOSE NUMBERS ARE INFLATED.

06:19.317 --> 06:21.151
THOSE NUMBERS ARE INFLATED.
WHEN YOU HAVE A FACT-FREE

06:21.152 --> 06:22.118
WHEN YOU HAVE A FACT-FREE
PRESIDENCY BUT ALSO A PRESIDENT

06:22.120 --> 06:23.219
PRESIDENCY BUT ALSO A PRESIDENT
WHO’S GETTING HIS INFORMATION

06:23.221 --> 06:24.654
WHO’S GETTING HIS INFORMATION
FROM HIS OWN SOURCES INCLUDING

06:24.656 --> 06:26.456
FROM HIS OWN SOURCES INCLUDING
THE PEOPLE WHO SIT BY HIS SIDE

06:26.457 --> 06:29.759
THE PEOPLE WHO SIT BY HIS SIDE
AND FEEDING HIM THAT SORT OF

06:29.760 --> 06:30.660
AND FEEDING HIM THAT SORT OF
DISBELIEF OF THE FACTS, IT

06:30.661 --> 06:32.062
DISBELIEF OF THE FACTS, IT
REALLY CHALLENGES THE SITUATION

06:32.096 --> 06:32.362
REALLY CHALLENGES THE SITUATION
HERE.

06:32.363 --> 06:33.463
HERE.
BUT AT THE ENDS OF THE DAY THIS

06:33.464 --> 06:34.831
BUT AT THE ENDS OF THE DAY THIS
IS FOR THE PRESIDENT, ABOUT

06:34.866 --> 06:35.665
IS FOR THE PRESIDENT, ABOUT
MOTIVATING THAT BASE.

06:35.700 --> 06:37.300
MOTIVATING THAT BASE.
WE’RE WELL INTO 2020 RIGHT NOW

06:37.335 --> 06:39.035
WE’RE WELL INTO 2020 RIGHT NOW
AS EVIDENCED BY THE DEMOCRATS.

06:39.037 --> 06:40.336
AS EVIDENCED BY THE DEMOCRATS.
BETO O’ROUKE ANNOUNCING, JOE

06:40.338 --> 06:42.239
BETO O’ROUKE ANNOUNCING, JOE
BIDEN LIKELY TO ANNOUNCE SOON.

06:42.240 --> 06:43.373
BIDEN LIKELY TO ANNOUNCE SOON.
FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP, THAT’S ALL

06:43.408 --> 06:44.407
FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP, THAT’S ALL
THERE IS AT THIS POINT.

06:44.442 --> 06:47.744
THERE IS AT THIS POINT.
NOT A LOT HE CAN GET DONE

06:47.745 --> 06:48.178
NOT A LOT HE CAN GET DONE
INDEPENDENTLY.

06:48.212 --> 06:50.247
INDEPENDENTLY.
>> A COLLEAGUE OF MY WROTE, A

06:50.281 --> 06:51.381
>> A COLLEAGUE OF MY WROTE, A
DISPATCHER IN PENNSYLVANIA FROM

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DISPATCHER IN PENNSYLVANIA FROM
TRUMP COUNTRY, AND WHAT PEOPLE

06:52.784 --> 06:54.785
TRUMP COUNTRY, AND WHAT PEOPLE
THERE TOLD HIM, TRUMP VOTERS,

06:54.819 --> 06:56.286
THERE TOLD HIM, TRUMP VOTERS,
WAS THEY’RE ACUTELY AWARE OF THE

06:56.288 --> 06:58.655
WAS THEY’RE ACUTELY AWARE OF THE
FACT THAT AMERICA IS NOT GOING

06:58.690 --> 06:59.790
FACT THAT AMERICA IS NOT GOING
TO BE A MAJORITY WHITE COUNTRY

06:59.791 --> 07:00.757
TO BE A MAJORITY WHITE COUNTRY
GOING DOWN THE ROAD.

07:00.759 --> 07:02.392
GOING DOWN THE ROAD.
THEY’RE ACUTELY AWARE OF IT.

07:02.393 --> 07:03.293
THEY’RE ACUTELY AWARE OF IT.
THEY’RE SENSITIVE TO IT.

07:03.294 --> 07:04.795
THEY’RE SENSITIVE TO IT.
THAT’S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.

07:04.796 --> 07:06.396
THAT’S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT.
HIS BASIS PEOPLE WHO FORESEE THE

07:06.431 --> 07:08.131
HIS BASIS PEOPLE WHO FORESEE THE
DAY IN WHICH THEY ARE NOT THE

07:08.166 --> 07:09.399
DAY IN WHICH THEY ARE NOT THE
DOMINANT GROUP OF PEOPLE IN

07:09.401 --> 07:09.700
DOMINANT GROUP OF PEOPLE IN
AMERICA.

07:09.734 --> 07:11.068
AMERICA.
AND THEY’RE FREAKED OUT ABOUT

07:11.102 --> 07:11.368
AND THEY’RE FREAKED OUT ABOUT
IT.

07:11.369 --> 07:12.669
IT.
>> BY THE WAY, THAT REFLECTS

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>> BY THE WAY, THAT REFLECTS
LANGUAGE USED BY -- NOT TO

07:15.073 --> 07:15.973
LANGUAGE USED BY -- NOT TO
SUGGEST THE PRESIDENT’S BASE HAS

07:15.974 --> 07:18.275
SUGGEST THE PRESIDENT’S BASE HAS
ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT TOOK

07:18.276 --> 07:20.110
ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT TOOK
PLACE OVERSEAS BUT THAT DOES

07:20.111 --> 07:22.613
PLACE OVERSEAS BUT THAT DOES
REFLECT THE LANGUAGE YOU HEAR IN

07:22.647 --> 07:25.716
REFLECT THE LANGUAGE YOU HEAR IN
MASSACRES LIKE THE WENT WE JUST

07:25.717 --> 07:27.351
MASSACRES LIKE THE WENT WE JUST
WITNESSED HERE, THERE’S A SENSE

07:27.385 --> 07:28.785
WITNESSED HERE, THERE’S A SENSE
WE’RE UNDER SIEGE RIGHT NOW.

07:28.787 --> 07:31.622
WE’RE UNDER SIEGE RIGHT NOW.
>> YOU HAVE TO DRAW THE LINE

07:31.657 --> 07:32.156
>> YOU HAVE TO DRAW THE LINE
BECAUSE IT EXISTS.

07:32.190 --> 07:33.223
BECAUSE IT EXISTS.
THERE ARE MORE POLITE WAYS TO

07:33.224 --> 07:35.926
THERE ARE MORE POLITE WAYS TO
EXPRESS THAT SENTIMENT BUT IT’S

07:35.927 --> 07:36.927
EXPRESS THAT SENTIMENT BUT IT’S
RUMINATING THE IDEA WHITE PEOPLE

07:36.961 --> 07:38.195
RUMINATING THE IDEA WHITE PEOPLE
FEEL LIKE THEY’RE BEING PUSHED

07:38.230 --> 07:39.230
FEEL LIKE THEY’RE BEING PUSHED
OUT OF THEIR COUNTRY.

07:39.231 --> 07:40.931
OUT OF THEIR COUNTRY.
THAT’S THE PANIC THAT’S POWERING

07:40.933 --> 07:42.433
THAT’S THE PANIC THAT’S POWERING
HIS CAMPAIGN AND PRESIDENCY.

07:42.467 --> 07:43.501
HIS CAMPAIGN AND PRESIDENCY.
>> ELLIOT, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF

07:43.535 --> 07:44.835
>> ELLIOT, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF
THE FACT THIS IS THE PRESIDENT’S

07:44.870 --> 07:45.436
THE FACT THIS IS THE PRESIDENT’S
FIRST VETO?

07:45.437 --> 07:47.171
FIRST VETO?
>> IT’S STRIKING BECAUSE THE

07:47.205 --> 07:48.505
>> IT’S STRIKING BECAUSE THE
REPUBLICANS HAVE STUCK WITH HIM

07:48.507 --> 07:49.340
REPUBLICANS HAVE STUCK WITH HIM
UP UNTIL NOW.

07:49.375 --> 07:51.676
UP UNTIL NOW.
BECAUSE HE’S POPULAR WITH

07:51.710 --> 07:52.910
BECAUSE HE’S POPULAR WITH
REPUBLICAN SENATORS AND

07:52.911 --> 07:54.645
REPUBLICAN SENATORS AND
REPUBLICAN VOTERS AROUND THE

07:54.679 --> 07:54.979
REPUBLICAN VOTERS AROUND THE
COUNTRY.

07:55.013 --> 07:57.515
COUNTRY.
THE ONE THING THAT CAN GET

07:57.516 --> 07:58.349
THE ONE THING THAT CAN GET
CONGRESS -- REPUBLICANS IN

07:58.350 --> 07:59.650
CONGRESS -- REPUBLICANS IN
CONGRESS IT SEEMS RIGHT NOW TO

07:59.651 --> 08:02.053
CONGRESS IT SEEMS RIGHT NOW TO
BUCK THE PRESIDENT IS WHAT IS

08:02.087 --> 08:03.621
BUCK THE PRESIDENT IS WHAT IS
SEEN AS A DISRESPECT OF THEIR

08:03.655 --> 08:05.556
SEEN AS A DISRESPECT OF THEIR
PREROGATIVE AS A COEQUAL BRANCH

08:05.590 --> 08:06.190
PREROGATIVE AS A COEQUAL BRANCH
OF GOVERNMENT.

08:06.224 --> 08:07.458
OF GOVERNMENT.
THAT’S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

08:07.492 --> 08:08.726
THAT’S WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
I GUESS THE QUESTION IS IF THE

08:08.760 --> 08:11.228
I GUESS THE QUESTION IS IF THE
PRESIDENT STARTS TO GET LESS AND

08:11.229 --> 08:11.929
PRESIDENT STARTS TO GET LESS AND
LESS UNPOPULAR, PERHAPS YOU

08:11.930 --> 08:14.365
LESS UNPOPULAR, PERHAPS YOU
START SEEING MORE REPUBLICANS

08:14.399 --> 08:14.899
START SEEING MORE REPUBLICANS
BREAKING FROM HIM.

08:14.933 --> 08:15.967
BREAKING FROM HIM.
A LOT OF THIS COMES DOWN TO HOW

08:16.001 --> 08:17.335
A LOT OF THIS COMES DOWN TO HOW
THE PRESIDENT IS SEEN WITHIN THE

08:17.369 --> 08:18.135
THE PRESIDENT IS SEEN WITHIN THE
PARTY.

08:18.136 --> 08:19.370
PARTY.
BUT AGAIN, ONE GUY WORKED IN

08:19.404 --> 08:20.805
BUT AGAIN, ONE GUY WORKED IN
CONGRESS FOR A WHILE, ONE THING

08:20.839 --> 08:22.473
CONGRESS FOR A WHILE, ONE THING
THAT CAN REALLY GET UNDER

08:22.507 --> 08:23.674
THAT CAN REALLY GET UNDER
MEMBERS OF CONGRESS’ SKIN IS THE

08:23.675 --> 08:29.246
MEMBERS OF CONGRESS’ SKIN IS THE
IDEA THEY’RE BEING TREATED AS

08:29.281 --> 08:29.881
IDEA THEY’RE BEING TREATED AS
LESSER THAN THE PRESIDENT.

08:29.915 --> 08:30.615
LESSER THAN THE PRESIDENT.
THIS WAS SORT OF A SHOT ACROSS

08:30.649 --> 08:31.382
THIS WAS SORT OF A SHOT ACROSS
THE BOW FROM SENATE REPUBLICANS

08:31.416 --> 08:32.550
THE BOW FROM SENATE REPUBLICANS
AND OBVIOUSLY THE MAJORITY IN

08:32.584 --> 08:34.752
AND OBVIOUSLY THE MAJORITY IN
THE HOUSE THAT HAIR BOTH COEQUAL

08:34.753 --> 08:35.886
THE HOUSE THAT HAIR BOTH COEQUAL
BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT AND THEY

08:35.888 --> 08:36.854
BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT AND THEY
WILL BE RESPECTED.

08:36.856 --> 08:38.089
WILL BE RESPECTED.
>> SHELBY, THE PRESIDENT TOOK A

08:38.090 --> 08:39.590
>> SHELBY, THE PRESIDENT TOOK A
LOT OF PRIDE IN THE FIRST TWO

08:39.592 --> 08:41.392
LOT OF PRIDE IN THE FIRST TWO
YEARS IN OFFICE, SOME SORT OF IN

08:41.393 --> 08:44.562
YEARS IN OFFICE, SOME SORT OF IN
HIS WORDS RETIRING SENATOR BOB

08:44.563 --> 08:47.198
HIS WORDS RETIRING SENATOR BOB
CORKER, RETIRING JEFF FLAKE OF

08:47.199 --> 08:47.498
CORKER, RETIRING JEFF FLAKE OF
ARIZONA.

08:47.533 --> 08:48.799
ARIZONA.
THESE TWO THAT BUCKED HIM AND AS

08:48.801 --> 08:50.201
THESE TWO THAT BUCKED HIM AND AS
A RESULT REALIZED THEY WOULD

08:50.202 --> 08:52.170
A RESULT REALIZED THEY WOULD
LIKELY FACE CHALLENGES IN THE

08:52.204 --> 08:52.570
LIKELY FACE CHALLENGES IN THE
PRIMARIES.

08:52.571 --> 08:54.205
PRIMARIES.
JEFF FLAKE SAID I CAN’T WIN IN

08:54.239 --> 08:55.339
JEFF FLAKE SAID I CAN’T WIN IN
THIS ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW SO

08:55.374 --> 08:56.608
THIS ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW SO
I’M NOT GOING FORWARD WITH THIS.

08:56.609 --> 08:58.610
I’M NOT GOING FORWARD WITH THIS.
DO WE ANTICIPATE THE PRESIDENT

08:58.644 --> 08:59.845
DO WE ANTICIPATE THE PRESIDENT
RETALIATES AGAINST THE

08:59.879 --> 09:00.278
RETALIATES AGAINST THE
REPUBLICANS?

09:00.279 --> 09:01.112
REPUBLICANS?
HE DIDN’T MENTION THEM HERE.

09:01.147 --> 09:02.413
HE DIDN’T MENTION THEM HERE.
BUT DOES HE RETALIATE?

09:02.414 --> 09:03.481
BUT DOES HE RETALIATE?
>> THAT’S A GOOD QUESTION.

09:03.516 --> 09:04.816
>> THAT’S A GOOD QUESTION.
HE DIDN’T MENTION THEM AND MAYBE

09:04.817 --> 09:06.017
HE DIDN’T MENTION THEM AND MAYBE
THEY’RE ENCOURAGED BY THAT.

09:06.052 --> 09:07.085
THEY’RE ENCOURAGED BY THAT.
BUT A NUMBER OF THESE

09:07.119 --> 09:08.386
BUT A NUMBER OF THESE
REPUBLICANS WHO VOTED AGAINST

09:08.387 --> 09:09.487
REPUBLICANS WHO VOTED AGAINST
HIM HAVE SHOWN TO NOT CARE IN

09:09.488 --> 09:10.788
HIM HAVE SHOWN TO NOT CARE IN
THE PAST ANYWAY.

09:10.790 --> 09:12.490
THE PAST ANYWAY.
SUSAN COLLINS OF MAINE, RAND

09:12.492 --> 09:12.790
SUSAN COLLINS OF MAINE, RAND
PAUL.

09:12.792 --> 09:14.325
PAUL.
THEY GO OFF AND DO THEIR OWN

09:14.360 --> 09:15.726
THEY GO OFF AND DO THEIR OWN
THING QUITE OFTEN.

09:15.728 --> 09:16.661
THING QUITE OFTEN.
MITT ROMNEY, THEY SPEAK OUT

09:16.696 --> 09:17.429
MITT ROMNEY, THEY SPEAK OUT
AGAINST THE PRESIDENT FROM TIME

09:17.430 --> 09:19.331
AGAINST THE PRESIDENT FROM TIME
TO TIME.

09:19.365 --> 09:21.166
TO TIME.
BUT I THINK THE FEAR THAT

09:21.200 --> 09:23.535
BUT I THINK THE FEAR THAT
REPUBLICANS HAVE, EVEN ON

09:23.536 --> 09:25.337
REPUBLICANS HAVE, EVEN ON
TWITTER, EVEN WHEN HE TWEETS

09:25.371 --> 09:29.140
TWITTER, EVEN WHEN HE TWEETS
ABOUT HOW HE WILL REMEMBER WHO

09:29.142 --> 09:30.375
ABOUT HOW HE WILL REMEMBER WHO
VOTED AGAINST HIM OR WHEN HIS

09:30.409 --> 09:31.142
VOTED AGAINST HIM OR WHEN HIS
PEOPLE IN THE WHITE HOUSE SAY

09:31.143 --> 09:32.243
PEOPLE IN THE WHITE HOUSE SAY
THE PRESIDENT WILL NOT FORGET

09:32.245 --> 09:33.545
THE PRESIDENT WILL NOT FORGET
THIS, I THINK THE FEAR OF THE

09:33.580 --> 09:34.780
THIS, I THINK THE FEAR OF THE
PRESIDENT EITHER NOT SUPPORTING

09:34.814 --> 09:36.148
PRESIDENT EITHER NOT SUPPORTING
THEM IN THE NEXT ELECTION OR

09:36.149 --> 09:37.449
THEM IN THE NEXT ELECTION OR
PERHAPS EVEN WORSE, GOING AFTER

09:37.450 --> 09:39.551
PERHAPS EVEN WORSE, GOING AFTER
THEM LIKE HE WENT AFTER JEFF

09:39.585 --> 09:42.788
THEM LIKE HE WENT AFTER JEFF
FLAKE, IS ENOUGH TO CHANGE THEIR

09:42.822 --> 09:43.155
FLAKE, IS ENOUGH TO CHANGE THEIR
MINDS.

09:43.156 --> 09:44.856
MINDS.
>> SPOKE TO A SENATOR THIS WEEK

09:44.891 --> 09:45.957
>> SPOKE TO A SENATOR THIS WEEK
WHO WAS WITH TRUMP AT THE WHITE

09:45.958 --> 09:47.892
WHO WAS WITH TRUMP AT THE WHITE
HOUSE AND THEY WERE SURPRISED AT

09:47.927 --> 09:50.429
HOUSE AND THEY WERE SURPRISED AT
HOW LITTLE PRESSURE HE PUT ON

09:50.430 --> 09:50.729
HOW LITTLE PRESSURE HE PUT ON
THEM.

09:50.730 --> 09:52.064
THEM.
THEY SAID IT WAS QUITE WEIRD.

09:52.065 --> 09:54.533
THEY SAID IT WAS QUITE WEIRD.
HE WAS SORT OF, I KNOW YOU’RE

09:54.534 --> 09:56.535
HE WAS SORT OF, I KNOW YOU’RE
GOING TO DO THAT, FAIRLY

09:56.536 --> 09:56.935
GOING TO DO THAT, FAIRLY
DISMISSIVE.

09:56.936 --> 09:58.236
DISMISSIVE.
LET’S NOT OVER INTERPRET THIS

09:58.237 --> 09:58.570
LET’S NOT OVER INTERPRET THIS
MOMENT.

09:58.571 --> 09:59.671
MOMENT.
WHEN WE TALK TO REPUBLICANS ON

09:59.705 --> 10:01.106
WHEN WE TALK TO REPUBLICANS ON
THE HILL, NONE OF THEM WANT TO

10:01.140 --> 10:02.340
THE HILL, NONE OF THEM WANT TO
GET ON HIS WRONG SIDE.

10:02.342 --> 10:04.543
GET ON HIS WRONG SIDE.
THEY’RE ALL STILL SCARED OF HIM.

10:04.544 --> 10:05.978
THEY’RE ALL STILL SCARED OF HIM.
THE IDEA WE’RE AT SOME GREAT

10:06.012 --> 10:07.079
THE IDEA WE’RE AT SOME GREAT
TURNING POINT WHERE THE PARTY IS

10:07.080 --> 10:08.780
TURNING POINT WHERE THE PARTY IS
GOING TO REVOLT AGAINST HIM, HE

10:08.782 --> 10:09.714
GOING TO REVOLT AGAINST HIM, HE
OWNS THE PARTY.

10:09.749 --> 10:11.350
OWNS THE PARTY.
IT’S THE DONALD TRUMP PARTY, AND

10:11.351 --> 10:13.051
IT’S THE DONALD TRUMP PARTY, AND
MOST OF THEM ARE SCARED OF HIM.

10:13.053 --> 10:17.089
MOST OF THEM ARE SCARED OF HIM.
AND IF HE REALLY WANT TO TURN ON

10:17.123 --> 10:20.993
AND IF HE REALLY WANT TO TURN ON
THEM, HE CAN MAKE THEIR LIVES

10:20.994 --> 10:21.393
THEM, HE CAN MAKE THEIR LIVES
MISERABLE.

10:21.394 --> 10:25.163
MISERABLE.
>> JOHNATHAN,NATHAN, I THINK THA

10:25.198 --> 10:26.598
>> JOHNATHAN,NATHAN, I THINK THA
FUNCTION OF HOW UNPOPULAR THE

10:26.599 --> 10:27.165
FUNCTION OF HOW UNPOPULAR THE
PRESIDENT IS.

10:27.167 --> 10:28.600
PRESIDENT IS.
IF HIS NUMBERS STARTED TO

10:28.602 --> 10:28.967
IF HIS NUMBERS STARTED TO
TANK --

10:28.968 --> 10:29.968
TANK --
>> BUT THEY HAVEN’T.

10:29.969 --> 10:31.169
>> BUT THEY HAVEN’T.
>> I KNOW THEY HAVEN’T.

10:31.171 --> 10:33.672
>> I KNOW THEY HAVEN’T.
BUT IF THEY DO THOUGH, PERHAPS

10:33.674 --> 10:35.507
BUT IF THEY DO THOUGH, PERHAPS
WE WILL START SEEING IT MORE.

10:35.508 --> 10:36.274
WE WILL START SEEING IT MORE.
I DON’T THINK THIS IS SIGN OF A

10:36.276 --> 10:38.410
I DON’T THINK THIS IS SIGN OF A
MASS REVOLT.

10:38.445 --> 10:39.111
MASS REVOLT.
>> WE’VE BEEN SAYING IF THEY DO
