WEBVTT 00:00.835 --> 00:02.235 OF PEOPLE WOULD BE ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT IF HE DID GET 00:02.269 --> 00:02.902 QUESTIONS ABOUT IF HE DID GET NOMINATED TO TAKE THIS ON 00:02.903 --> 00:05.772 NOMINATED TO TAKE THIS ON FULL-TIME. 00:05.773 --> 00:09.109 FULL-TIME. >> AND, PETE WILLIAMS JOINS US, 00:09.143 --> 00:10.077 >> AND, PETE WILLIAMS JOINS US, CHIEF JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT. 00:10.111 --> 00:11.511 CHIEF JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT. YOU’VE BEEN COVERING HOMELAND 00:11.546 --> 00:13.113 YOU’VE BEEN COVERING HOMELAND THROUGH ALL OF THESE ITERATIONS. 00:13.114 --> 00:14.481 THROUGH ALL OF THESE ITERATIONS. THE CREATION OF HOMELAND AND ALL 00:14.515 --> 00:16.816 THE CREATION OF HOMELAND AND ALL OF ITS STRUGGLES, TO GET ON ITS 00:16.817 --> 00:17.583 OF ITS STRUGGLES, TO GET ON ITS FEET, AND NOW IT’S AGAIN WITHOUT 00:17.585 --> 00:20.020 FEET, AND NOW IT’S AGAIN WITHOUT A LEADER. 00:20.054 --> 00:20.954 A LEADER. >> WITHOUT A LEADER. 00:20.988 --> 00:22.322 >> WITHOUT A LEADER. WITHOUT A DEPUTY SECRETARY. 00:22.323 --> 00:23.590 WITHOUT A DEPUTY SECRETARY. WITHOUT A HEAD OF FEMA. 00:23.591 --> 00:25.125 WITHOUT A HEAD OF FEMA. WITHOUT A HEAD OF I.C.E. 00:25.126 --> 00:26.626 WITHOUT A HEAD OF I.C.E. WITH NO ONE IN CHARGE OF THE 00:26.661 --> 00:29.562 WITH NO ONE IN CHARGE OF THE SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY BRANCH. 00:29.597 --> 00:31.631 SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY BRANCH. THIS IS THE LEAST WELL ORGANIZED 00:31.666 --> 00:33.466 THIS IS THE LEAST WELL ORGANIZED THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND 00:33.501 --> 00:34.835 THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY HAS BEEN SINCE IT WAS 00:34.869 --> 00:37.671 SECURITY HAS BEEN SINCE IT WAS STOOD UP, ANDREA, AND THESE 00:37.705 --> 00:39.039 STOOD UP, ANDREA, AND THESE CONSTANT CHANGES AND THE 00:39.073 --> 00:40.107 CONSTANT CHANGES AND THE INABILITY TO PUT SOMEONE IN 00:40.141 --> 00:42.709 INABILITY TO PUT SOMEONE IN CHARGE OF THESE VARIOUS FACTIONS 00:42.710 --> 00:44.945 CHARGE OF THESE VARIOUS FACTIONS ACCORDING TO SOME FORMER DHS 00:44.946 --> 00:47.347 ACCORDING TO SOME FORMER DHS OFFICIALS HAS CREATED A CERTAIN 00:47.348 --> 00:49.049 OFFICIALS HAS CREATED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DISCONTENT IN THAT 00:49.083 --> 00:49.383 AMOUNT OF DISCONTENT IN THAT AGENCY. 00:49.417 --> 00:50.651 AGENCY. YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A TIME WHEN 00:50.652 --> 00:52.553 YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A TIME WHEN E DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND 00:52.554 --> 00:55.355 E DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY RATED LAST IN TERMS OF 00:55.357 --> 00:56.757 SECURITY RATED LAST IN TERMS OF EMPLOYEE MORALE. 00:56.791 --> 00:59.693 EMPLOYEE MORALE. THAT HAS STEADILY IMPROVED, BUT 00:59.727 --> 01:02.362 THAT HAS STEADILY IMPROVED, BUT THIS MAY BE A SETBACK TO IT, 01:02.363 --> 01:03.964 THIS MAY BE A SETBACK TO IT, AND’S THE REAL QUESTION FOR 01:03.965 --> 01:06.266 AND’S THE REAL QUESTION FOR KEVIN McALEENAN IS, HE’S GOING 01:06.267 --> 01:11.271 KEVIN McALEENAN IS, HE’S GOING TO BE AS EQUALLY BOUND BY THE 01:11.272 --> 01:12.973 TO BE AS EQUALLY BOUND BY THE RESTRICTIONS OF LAW AND 01:13.007 --> 01:15.409 RESTRICTIONS OF LAW AND INTERNATIONAL TREATIES AS HIS 01:15.443 --> 01:18.445 INTERNATIONAL TREATIES AS HIS PREDECESSOR WAS OR WHOEVER WILL 01:18.446 --> 01:19.179 PREDECESSOR WAS OR WHOEVER WILL TAKE OVER THE JOB OF HOMELAND 01:19.180 --> 01:19.546 TAKE OVER THE JOB OF HOMELAND SECRETARY. 01:19.547 --> 01:21.281 SECRETARY. CAN ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE ACTING 01:21.283 --> 01:23.250 CAN ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE ACTING IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE LAW 01:23.252 --> 01:24.685 IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE LAW SATISFY THE PRESIDENT’S DEMAND 01:24.686 --> 01:26.687 SATISFY THE PRESIDENT’S DEMAND FOR MORE ACTION AT THE BORDER? 01:26.721 --> 01:30.124 FOR MORE ACTION AT THE BORDER? YOU KNOW, SHE AND THE PRESIDENT 01:30.158 --> 01:31.392 YOU KNOW, SHE AND THE PRESIDENT HAVE ALSO TALKED ABOUT 01:31.426 --> 01:33.093 HAVE ALSO TALKED ABOUT IMMIGRATION LAW WHICH THEY 01:33.095 --> 01:33.660 IMMIGRATION LAW WHICH THEY CONSIDER TERRIBLE. 01:33.695 --> 01:35.162 CONSIDER TERRIBLE. THE FACT IS THEY’RE STUCK WITH 01:35.163 --> 01:36.397 THE FACT IS THEY’RE STUCK WITH IT AND THERE’S ONLY A CERTAIN 01:36.431 --> 01:38.165 IT AND THERE’S ONLY A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF THINGS THAT THEY CAN 01:38.200 --> 01:38.566 AMOUNT OF THINGS THAT THEY CAN DO. 01:38.567 --> 01:41.669 DO. SO WILL ANYBODY IN THAT JOB BE 01:41.670 --> 01:47.007 SO WILL ANYBODY IN THAT JOB BE ABLE TO SAFRSATISFY TO SATISFY T 01:47.009 --> 01:48.075 ABLE TO SAFRSATISFY TO SATISFY T THE OTHER THINGS, TOTALLY 01:48.076 --> 01:49.410 THE OTHER THINGS, TOTALLY YOEVLGER SHADOWS WHAT NORMALLY 01:49.411 --> 01:51.612 YOEVLGER SHADOWS WHAT NORMALLY AND STILL IS THE DEPARTMENT OF 01:51.613 --> 01:54.415 AND STILL IS THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY’S MISSION. 01:54.416 --> 01:57.318 HOMELAND SECURITY’S MISSION. I TOLD MY COLLEAGUES AND JULIA 01:57.352 --> 01:58.753 I TOLD MY COLLEAGUES AND JULIA WHEN AT REUTERS AND WOULD SEE 01:58.787 --> 02:00.388 WHEN AT REUTERS AND WOULD SEE HER AT HOMELAND SECURITY 02:00.389 --> 02:03.124 HER AT HOMELAND SECURITY BRIEFINGS, I SAID, I USED TO 02:03.125 --> 02:05.026 BRIEFINGS, I SAID, I USED TO REMEMBER WHEN HE CAULKTALKED ABO 02:05.027 --> 02:06.427 REMEMBER WHEN HE CAULKTALKED ABO TERRORISM AND HOMELAND SECURITY. 02:06.462 --> 02:08.462 TERRORISM AND HOMELAND SECURITY. NOW ALL WE TALK ABOUT SEEMS IS 02:08.497 --> 02:08.930 NOW ALL WE TALK ABOUT SEEMS IS IMMIGRATION. 02:08.931 --> 02:10.531 IMMIGRATION. >> EXACTLY RIGHT. 02:10.566 --> 02:11.298 >> EXACTLY RIGHT. I WAS THINKING OF. 02:11.333 --> 02:13.434 I WAS THINKING OF. THE COUNTERINTELLIGENCE. 02:13.468 --> 02:14.302 THE COUNTERINTELLIGENCE. THE SECRET SERVICE. 02:14.336 --> 02:15.903 THE SECRET SERVICE. THE COUNTERFEITING, CYBER. 02:15.904 --> 02:17.605 THE COUNTERFEITING, CYBER. ALL THE OTHER THINGS HOMELAND IS 02:17.606 --> 02:18.840 ALL THE OTHER THINGS HOMELAND IS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. 02:18.841 --> 02:20.408 SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. FEMA, JULIA MENTIONED AS WELL. 02:20.409 --> 02:21.743 FEMA, JULIA MENTIONED AS WELL. A LOT OF PROBLEMS THERE. 02:21.777 --> 02:23.411 A LOT OF PROBLEMS THERE. PETE, I KNOW YOU AND JULIA WILL 02:23.445 --> 02:24.345 PETE, I KNOW YOU AND JULIA WILL BE ALL OVER THIS. 02:24.346 --> 02:27.215 BE ALL OVER THIS. THIS IS A MAJOR BLOW AND 02:27.216 --> 02:28.216 THIS IS A MAJOR BLOW AND SUPPOSED TO BE THE BEST MANAGED 02:28.217 --> 02:29.417 SUPPOSED TO BE THE BEST MANAGED GOVERNMENT WE WOULD EVER SEE, 02:29.418 --> 02:29.984 GOVERNMENT WE WOULD EVER SEE, BECAUSE WE HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO