WEBVTT 00:01.368 --> 00:02.092 BUT THERE, AS IN OTHER INSTANCES, PUTIN HAS PUSHED THE 00:02.102 --> 00:03.593 INSTANCES, PUTIN HAS PUSHED THE ENVELOPE AND DONE THINGS THAT 00:03.604 --> 00:04.961 ENVELOPE AND DONE THINGS THAT OTHER RUSSIAN LEADERS HAVE NOT. 00:04.971 --> 00:06.362 OTHER RUSSIAN LEADERS HAVE NOT. >> ALL RIGHT. 00:06.373 --> 00:08.098 >> ALL RIGHT. CONGRESSMAN JIM JORDAN HAS 00:08.108 --> 00:12.202 CONGRESSMAN JIM JORDAN HAS DENIED CLAIMS THAT HE IGNORED 00:12.245 --> 00:13.637 DENIED CLAIMS THAT HE IGNORED DECADES’ OLD ALLEGATIONS OF 00:13.680 --> 00:15.005 DECADES’ OLD ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL ABUSE MADE BY MEMBERS OF 00:15.048 --> 00:17.407 SEXUAL ABUSE MADE BY MEMBERS OF THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY 00:17.417 --> 00:19.042 THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY WRESTLING TEAM AGAINST THEIR 00:19.085 --> 00:22.912 WRESTLING TEAM AGAINST THEIR TEAM DOCTOR. 00:22.923 --> 00:25.115 TEAM DOCTOR. JORDAN TOLD POLITICO ON TUESDAY, 00:25.125 --> 00:26.016 JORDAN TOLD POLITICO ON TUESDAY, IT’S NOT TRUE. 00:26.059 --> 00:27.851 IT’S NOT TRUE. I WAS NEVER TOLD OF ANY KIND OF 00:27.894 --> 00:28.184 I WAS NEVER TOLD OF ANY KIND OF ABUSE. 00:28.195 --> 00:29.519 ABUSE. IF I DID, I WOULD HAVE DONE 00:29.530 --> 00:30.587 IF I DID, I WOULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING ABOUT IT. 00:30.597 --> 00:32.322 SOMETHING ABOUT IT. IF THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO WERE 00:32.332 --> 00:34.024 IF THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO WERE ABUSED, THAT’S TERRIBLE. 00:34.067 --> 00:35.592 ABUSED, THAT’S TERRIBLE. WE WANT JUSTICE TO HAPPEN. 00:35.635 --> 00:38.094 WE WANT JUSTICE TO HAPPEN. THREE FORMER WRESTLES TOLD NBC 00:38.105 --> 00:39.329 THREE FORMER WRESTLES TOLD NBC NEWS THAT IT WAS COMMON 00:39.373 --> 00:41.698 NEWS THAT IT WAS COMMON KNOWLEDGE THAT THE TEAM’S DOCTOR 00:41.742 --> 00:50.107 KNOWLEDGE THAT THE TEAM’S DOCTOR REGULARLY SHOWERED WITH STUDENTS 00:50.117 --> 00:51.808 REGULARLY SHOWERED WITH STUDENTS AND TOUCHED THEM DURING 00:51.819 --> 00:52.242 AND TOUCHED THEM DURING APPOINTMENTS. 00:52.252 --> 00:53.944 APPOINTMENTS. ONE WRESTLER SAID HE TALKED TO 00:53.987 --> 00:58.582 ONE WRESTLER SAID HE TALKED TO JORDAN DIRECTLY ABOUT THE ABUSE. 00:58.625 --> 00:59.516 JORDAN DIRECTLY ABOUT THE ABUSE. OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY ANNOUNCED 00:59.526 --> 01:00.550 OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY ANNOUNCED IN APRIL IT WAS INVESTIGATING 01:00.561 --> 01:02.119 IN APRIL IT WAS INVESTIGATING THE CLAIMS. 01:02.129 --> 01:03.253 THE CLAIMS. THE REPUBLICAN HOUSE FREEDOM 01:03.263 --> 01:04.855 THE REPUBLICAN HOUSE FREEDOM CAUCUS WAS THE ASSISTANT 01:04.865 --> 01:06.056 CAUCUS WAS THE ASSISTANT WRESTLING COACH AT THE 01:06.066 --> 01:09.059 WRESTLING COACH AT THE UNIVERSITY FROM 1986 TO 1994. 01:09.069 --> 01:11.261 UNIVERSITY FROM 1986 TO 1994. JORDAN HAS REPEATEDLY SAID HE 01:11.271 --> 01:12.963 JORDAN HAS REPEATEDLY SAID HE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THE 01:12.973 --> 01:14.565 KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THE ALLEGATIONS UNTIL THE FORMER 01:14.575 --> 01:16.233 ALLEGATIONS UNTIL THE FORMER STUDENTS WENT PUBLIC THIS YEAR. 01:16.243 --> 01:18.469 STUDENTS WENT PUBLIC THIS YEAR. >> MIKE ALLEN, YOU LOOK AT ALL 01:18.512 --> 01:22.172 >> MIKE ALLEN, YOU LOOK AT ALL THE COMMENTS FROM FORMER 01:22.183 --> 01:23.473 THE COMMENTS FROM FORMER WRESTLERS, FORMER, CLOSE FRIENDS 01:23.484 --> 01:26.143 WRESTLERS, FORMER, CLOSE FRIENDS AND ASSOCIATES OF JIM JORDAN. 01:26.186 --> 01:27.878 AND ASSOCIATES OF JIM JORDAN. THEY SAID THAT HIS LOCKER WAS 01:27.888 --> 01:30.581 THEY SAID THAT HIS LOCKER WAS RIGHT NEXT TO THE DOCTOR’S. 01:30.624 --> 01:33.217 RIGHT NEXT TO THE DOCTOR’S. HE HAD SAID IF THE DOCTOR HAD 01:33.260 --> 01:33.984 HE HAD SAID IF THE DOCTOR HAD TRIED ANYTHING ON HIM HE WOULD 01:33.994 --> 01:36.587 TRIED ANYTHING ON HIM HE WOULD TAKE CARE OF HIM. 01:36.630 --> 01:40.391 TAKE CARE OF HIM. IT SEEMS THAT EVERYBODY THAT WAS 01:40.401 --> 01:41.892 IT SEEMS THAT EVERYBODY THAT WAS AROUND JIM JORDAN AT THE TIME 01:41.903 --> 01:44.328 AROUND JIM JORDAN AT THE TIME KNEW, HE HAD TO KNOW ALL OF THIS 01:44.371 --> 01:45.262 KNEW, HE HAD TO KNOW ALL OF THIS WAS GOING ON. 01:45.272 --> 01:48.565 WAS GOING ON. IN FACT, HE SAID SOME THINGS 01:48.576 --> 01:49.600 IN FACT, HE SAID SOME THINGS SUGGESTING HE DID KNOW IT WAS 01:49.644 --> 01:50.134 SUGGESTING HE DID KNOW IT WAS GOING ON. 01:50.177 --> 01:51.669 GOING ON. >> YOU TALK ABOUT BEING ON THE 01:51.679 --> 01:54.205 >> YOU TALK ABOUT BEING ON THE WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY. 01:54.248 --> 01:55.873 WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY. AGAIN AND AGAIN, THESE INCIDENTS 01:55.916 --> 01:57.808 AGAIN AND AGAIN, THESE INCIDENTS THAT WERE PUT ASIDE ARE NOW 01:57.818 --> 01:58.409 THAT WERE PUT ASIDE ARE NOW COMING BACK. 01:58.452 --> 02:00.077 COMING BACK. WE’VE SEEN PEOPLE LOSING JOBS 02:00.121 --> 02:01.879 WE’VE SEEN PEOPLE LOSING JOBS THAT THEY HAVE BEEN OFFERED 02:01.889 --> 02:03.314 THAT THEY HAVE BEEN OFFERED BECAUSE OF THEIR PAST 02:03.357 --> 02:06.617 BECAUSE OF THEIR PAST INVOLVEMENT WITH SOME OF THESE 02:06.627 --> 02:06.984 INVOLVEMENT WITH SOME OF THESE SCANDALS. 02:07.028 --> 02:09.187 SCANDALS. AND WHAT WE SEE IS THAT SO MANY 02:09.197 --> 02:11.889 AND WHAT WE SEE IS THAT SO MANY YOUNG ATHLETES OVER THE YEARS 02:11.900 --> 02:13.324 YOUNG ATHLETES OVER THE YEARS CLEARLY WERE VICTIMIZED IN THIS 02:13.334 --> 02:17.328 CLEARLY WERE VICTIMIZED IN THIS WAY AND ONLY NOW ARE SOME OF 02:17.371 --> 02:18.596 WAY AND ONLY NOW ARE SOME OF THEM GETTING SOME KIND OF 02:18.639 --> 02:20.732 THEM GETTING SOME KIND OF JUSTICE OR VINDICATION. 02:20.774 --> 02:22.667 JUSTICE OR VINDICATION. >> MIKE, BEFORE YOU GO, TELL US 02:22.710 --> 02:25.136 >> MIKE, BEFORE YOU GO, TELL US ABOUT AXIOS’ REPORT THIS MORNING 02:25.146 --> 02:26.637 ABOUT AXIOS’ REPORT THIS MORNING ON TRUMP’S BLIND SPOT. 02:26.648 --> 02:27.338 ON TRUMP’S BLIND SPOT. >> JUST ONE? 02:27.348 --> 02:29.841 >> JUST ONE? >> I MEAN, NARROW IT. 02:29.851 --> 02:33.444 >> I MEAN, NARROW IT. WE’LL NARROW IT DOWN TO THE ONE 02:33.488 --> 02:34.312 WE’LL NARROW IT DOWN TO THE ONE YOU’RE REPORTING ON. 02:34.355 --> 02:40.017 YOU’RE REPORTING ON. >> WE TALKED TO BUSH 43 ALUMNI 02:40.028 --> 02:41.553 >> WE TALKED TO BUSH 43 ALUMNI WHEN HOUSE DEMOCRATS WON THEIR 02:41.563 --> 02:42.854 WHEN HOUSE DEMOCRATS WON THEIR ELECTION AND THEY’RE SAYING THAT 02:42.864 --> 02:45.657 ELECTION AND THEY’RE SAYING THAT THIS WHITE HOUSE HAS NO IDEA 02:45.700 --> 02:47.792 THIS WHITE HOUSE HAS NO IDEA WHAT IS ABOUT TO COME IF 02:47.836 --> 02:49.227 WHAT IS ABOUT TO COME IF DEMOCRATS GET THE HOUSE. 02:49.237 --> 02:51.229 DEMOCRATS GET THE HOUSE. YOU SUDDENLY HAVE DEMOCRATS WITH 02:51.239 --> 02:53.064 YOU SUDDENLY HAVE DEMOCRATS WITH SUBPOENA POWER WHO CAN CALL YOU 02:53.108 --> 02:54.499 SUBPOENA POWER WHO CAN CALL YOU UP TO TESTIFY CONSTANTLY AND GET 02:54.542 --> 02:56.768 UP TO TESTIFY CONSTANTLY AND GET IN YOUR E-MAIL AND GET IN YOUR 02:56.778 --> 02:59.871 IN YOUR E-MAIL AND GET IN YOUR BUDGETS AND GET IN TO YOUR 02:59.914 --> 03:01.072 BUDGETS AND GET IN TO YOUR SCHEDULES AND THE BUSH WHITE 03:01.082 --> 03:04.375 SCHEDULES AND THE BUSH WHITE HOUSE SAW THIS COMING, OF 03:04.386 --> 03:08.614 HOUSE SAW THIS COMING, OF COURSE, 2006 WAS A LOT OF UNHAP 03:08.657 --> 03:09.981 COURSE, 2006 WAS A LOT OF UNHAP UNHAPPINESS ABOUT THE IRAQ WAR. 03:09.992 --> 03:11.382 UNHAPPINESS ABOUT THE IRAQ WAR. THEY KNEW THE DEMOCRATS WOULD 03:11.393 --> 03:13.351 THEY KNEW THE DEMOCRATS WOULD TAKE THE HOUSE AND THEY FORMED 03:13.362 --> 03:27.265 TAKE THE HOUSE AND THEY FORMED WHAT THEY CALLED AND AND WHAT 03:27.275 --> 03:28.200 WHAT THEY CALLED AND AND WHAT WAS COMING WITH DEMOCRATS. 03:28.243 --> 03:30.669 WAS COMING WITH DEMOCRATS. JOE AND MIKA, I’M GLAD YOU’RE 03:30.712 --> 03:31.303 JOE AND MIKA, I’M GLAD YOU’RE SITTING DOWN. 03:31.346 --> 03:33.505 SITTING DOWN. YOU’RE GOING TO BE SHOCKED BY 03:33.515 --> 03:34.039 YOU’RE GOING TO BE SHOCKED BY THIS. 03:34.082 --> 03:35.106 THIS. THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE DOESN’T 03:35.117 --> 03:37.509 THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE DOESN’T HAVE AN OSG, THE TRUMP WHITE 03:37.519 --> 03:38.910 HAVE AN OSG, THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE IS NOT PREPARING FOR WHAT 03:38.954 --> 03:40.879 HOUSE IS NOT PREPARING FOR WHAT COULD COME WITH HOUSE DEMOCRATS. 03:40.922 --> 03:42.881 COULD COME WITH HOUSE DEMOCRATS. WHAT ONE AIDE SAID TO ME, WE 03:42.891 --> 03:44.116 WHAT ONE AIDE SAID TO ME, WE CAN’T EVEN PREPARE FOR WHAT IS 03:44.159 --> 03:45.985 CAN’T EVEN PREPARE FOR WHAT IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF US, YET ALONE 03:46.028 --> 03:47.119 RIGHT IN FRONT OF US, YET ALONE PREPARE FOR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT 03:47.162 --> 03:47.987 PREPARE FOR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT COME IN SIX MONTHS. 03:48.030 --> 03:50.722 COME IN SIX MONTHS. >> YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY THAT 03:50.733 --> 03:51.924 >> YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY THAT CONTINUES TO TALK TO HIM SAYS 03:51.967 --> 03:52.792 CONTINUES TO TALK TO HIM SAYS THE SAME THING. 03:52.834 --> 03:55.226 THE SAME THING. THEY ARE JUST SHOCKED BY HOW 03:55.237 --> 03:59.331 THEY ARE JUST SHOCKED BY HOW ISOLATED HE IS AND HOW ANYBODY 03:59.374 --> 04:00.966 ISOLATED HE IS AND HOW ANYBODY THAT, WELL, ANYBODY WHO DELIVERS 04:01.009 --> 04:03.235 THAT, WELL, ANYBODY WHO DELIVERS BAD NEWS IS IMMEDIATELY PUSHED 04:03.278 --> 04:03.602 BAD NEWS IS IMMEDIATELY PUSHED OUT. 04:03.645 --> 04:05.604 OUT. BUT NOBODY IS ABLE TO DELIVER 04:05.614 --> 04:08.240 BUT NOBODY IS ABLE TO DELIVER BAD NEWS, HE LIVES IN HIS OWN 04:08.283 --> 04:08.574 BAD NEWS, HE LIVES IN HIS OWN BUBBLE. 04:08.617 --> 04:10.342 BUBBLE. HE LIVES IN HIS OWN WORLD AND 04:10.385 --> 04:12.878 HE LIVES IN HIS OWN WORLD AND YOU DO NOT SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER 04:12.921 --> 04:14.413 YOU DO NOT SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER WITH THIS PRESIDENT BECAUSE 04:14.423 --> 04:18.450 WITH THIS PRESIDENT BECAUSE HE’LL FIRE YOU OR HE’LL PUSH YOU 04:18.494 --> 04:19.651 HE’LL FIRE YOU OR HE’LL PUSH YOU ASIDE, LIKE HIS CHIEF OF STAFF. 04:19.661 --> 04:20.485 ASIDE, LIKE HIS CHIEF OF STAFF. >> EXACTLY. 04:20.529 --> 04:22.021 >> EXACTLY. WHERE I THINK THERE’S SOME 04:22.031 --> 04:27.826 WHERE I THINK THERE’S SOME REPORTING THAT HE THINKS THE 04:27.837 --> 04:30.362 REPORTING THAT HE THINKS THE PRESIDENT COULD PEA HISBE HIS OW 04:30.405 --> 04:30.963 PRESIDENT COULD PEA HISBE HIS OW OF STAFF. 04:30.973 --> 04:32.698 OF STAFF. >> THANK YOU, MIKE. 04:32.741 --> 04:36.268 >> THANK YOU, MIKE. >>> STILL AHEAD ON "MORNING 04:36.311 --> 04:38.270 >>> STILL AHEAD ON "MORNING JOE," THE "NEW YORK TIMES" CALLS 04:38.280 --> 04:40.005 JOE," THE "NEW YORK TIMES" CALLS IT A SERIES OF PRESIDENTIAL 04:40.049 --> 04:41.440 IT A SERIES OF PRESIDENTIAL TWEETS ALL APPARENTLY INSPIRED 04:41.450 --> 04:46.178 TWEETS ALL APPARENTLY INSPIRED BY FOX NEWS WERE EITHER 04:46.188 --> 04:48.280 BY FOX NEWS WERE EITHER EXAGGERATED, UNSUBSTANTIATED OR 04:48.290 --> 04:49.448 EXAGGERATED, UNSUBSTANTIATED OR JUST PLAIN FALSE. 04:49.458 --> 04:50.983 JUST PLAIN FALSE. IT’S HARD TO BELIEVE THE 04:51.026 --> 04:51.984 IT’S HARD TO BELIEVE THE MISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN IS 04:51.994 --> 04:52.918 MISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN IS ACTUALLY GETTING WORSE. 04:52.962 --> 04:54.253 ACTUALLY GETTING WORSE. >>> LIVE TO THAILAND WHERE 04:54.263 --> 04:55.688 >>> LIVE TO THAILAND WHERE OFFICIALS ARE TRYING TO COME UP 04:55.698 --> 04:59.135 OFFICIALS ARE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO RESCUE A BOYS’