WEBVTT 00:08.542 --> 00:11.644 >>> THIS WAS AN EGREGIOUS 00:11.646 --> 00:13.480 >>> THIS WAS AN EGREGIOUS OVERREACH BY MR. MUELLER, THE 00:13.481 --> 00:15.182 OVERREACH BY MR. MUELLER, THE FBI DIRECTOR WHO HAD TO HAVE 00:15.183 --> 00:16.883 FBI DIRECTOR WHO HAD TO HAVE APPROVED THIS RAID SHOULD, IN MY 00:16.918 --> 00:19.419 APPROVED THIS RAID SHOULD, IN MY OPINION, BE FIRED OVER IT. 00:19.453 --> 00:22.189 OPINION, BE FIRED OVER IT. I WILL PLEAD NOT GUILTY. 00:22.222 --> 00:23.490 I WILL PLEAD NOT GUILTY. I WILL FIGHT THE CHARGES 00:23.491 --> 00:26.193 I WILL FIGHT THE CHARGES >> ROGER STONE TAKING ON THE 00:26.194 --> 00:27.361 >> ROGER STONE TAKING ON THE SPECIAL COUNSEL SATURDAY 00:27.395 --> 00:28.595 SPECIAL COUNSEL SATURDAY MOUNTING HIS OPINION IN THE 00:28.630 --> 00:31.164 MOUNTING HIS OPINION IN THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION. 00:31.199 --> 00:38.271 COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION. HE’S FLASHING THE V FOR VICTORY 00:38.273 --> 00:38.605 HE’S FLASHING THE V FOR VICTORY SIGN 00:38.606 --> 00:41.408 SIGN >> I GUESS IT’S AN EFFORT TO 00:41.442 --> 00:44.278 >> I GUESS IT’S AN EFFORT TO INTIMIDATE ME, BUT I AM NOT 00:44.312 --> 00:44.611 INTIMIDATE ME, BUT I AM NOT INTIMIDATED. 00:44.612 --> 00:46.113 INTIMIDATED. >> THE ALLEGATION THAT TWO 00:46.147 --> 00:49.183 >> THE ALLEGATION THAT TWO CAMPAIGN OFFICIALS INSTRUCTED ME 00:49.217 --> 00:51.685 CAMPAIGN OFFICIALS INSTRUCTED ME OR INQUIRED OF ME ABOUT 00:51.686 --> 00:53.120 OR INQUIRED OF ME ABOUT WIKILEAKS IS FALSE 00:53.121 --> 00:54.888 WIKILEAKS IS FALSE I SUSPECT THAT THEY CAN INDUCE 00:54.889 --> 00:56.723 I SUSPECT THAT THEY CAN INDUCE SOMEBODY TO SAY THAT 00:56.758 --> 00:59.693 SOMEBODY TO SAY THAT >> BRIAN ON MY LEFT HAS A GREAT 00:59.727 --> 01:01.995 >> BRIAN ON MY LEFT HAS A GREAT COLUMN WHERE HE SAYS IT DISPELS 01:01.996 --> 01:04.397 COLUMN WHERE HE SAYS IT DISPELS THE NOTION THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN 01:04.399 --> 01:07.334 THE NOTION THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN WAS NOT WORKING CLOSELY WITH 01:07.369 --> 01:08.602 WAS NOT WORKING CLOSELY WITH RUSSIA INTEREST DURING THE RACE. 01:08.636 --> 01:11.438 RUSSIA INTEREST DURING THE RACE. IT SHOWS US CLEARLY IN GRAPHIC 01:11.472 --> 01:12.606 IT SHOWS US CLEARLY IN GRAPHIC FORM DONALD TRUMP’S ASSOCIATES 01:12.640 --> 01:14.040 FORM DONALD TRUMP’S ASSOCIATES AND HIS CONTACTS WITH MORE THAN 01:14.042 --> 01:15.643 AND HIS CONTACTS WITH MORE THAN 100 CONTACTS WITH RUSSIANS 01:15.677 --> 01:20.347 100 CONTACTS WITH RUSSIANS BEFORE THE INAUGURATION TOOK 01:20.349 --> 01:20.981 BEFORE THE INAUGURATION TOOK PLACE. 01:21.016 --> 01:21.548 PLACE. TIM, LET ME RETURN TO YOUR 01:21.550 --> 01:23.550 TIM, LET ME RETURN TO YOUR COLUMN 01:23.584 --> 01:28.221 COLUMN YOU WROTE IT SHOWS A FULL 01:28.256 --> 01:30.824 YOU WROTE IT SHOWS A FULL PORTRAIT OF HOW ACTIVELY THE 01:30.825 --> 01:33.660 PORTRAIT OF HOW ACTIVELY THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN COLLUDED WITH THE 01:33.662 --> 01:34.462 TRUMP CAMPAIGN COLLUDED WITH THE RUSSIAN CAMPAIGN 01:34.463 --> 01:36.564 RUSSIAN CAMPAIGN TEXT EXCHANGES, EXCERPTS FROM 01:36.565 --> 01:37.264 TEXT EXCHANGES, EXCERPTS FROM E-MAILS, ET CETERA 01:37.266 --> 01:38.466 E-MAILS, ET CETERA HOW DOES IT CHANGE THE 01:38.500 --> 01:39.233 HOW DOES IT CHANGE THE NARRATIVE, THIS INDICTMENT 01:39.267 --> 01:41.368 NARRATIVE, THIS INDICTMENT >> I THINK IT MAKES THE 01:41.402 --> 01:43.070 >> I THINK IT MAKES THE NARRATIVE RIP AND GROUNDS IT IN 01:43.071 --> 01:44.838 NARRATIVE RIP AND GROUNDS IT IN A FACT PATTERN WHICH MUELLER HAS 01:44.873 --> 01:46.273 A FACT PATTERN WHICH MUELLER HAS DONE EVERY STEP OF THE WAY 01:46.274 --> 01:48.576 DONE EVERY STEP OF THE WAY YOU SAW IT IN THE SENTENCING 01:48.610 --> 01:48.910 YOU SAW IT IN THE SENTENCING MEMOS. 01:48.944 --> 01:51.078 MEMOS. HE’S PRESENTING THESE NEW 01:51.079 --> 01:52.046 HE’S PRESENTING THESE NEW NARRATIVES EACH TIME THAT LAY 01:52.047 --> 01:53.581 NARRATIVES EACH TIME THAT LAY OUT A LOT OF THINGS THAT SOME OF 01:53.582 --> 01:54.982 OUT A LOT OF THINGS THAT SOME OF THE STUFF HAS BEEN IN THE PUBLIC 01:54.983 --> 01:55.282 THE STUFF HAS BEEN IN THE PUBLIC RECORD 01:55.284 --> 01:56.284 RECORD SOME OF IT HADN’T. 01:56.318 --> 01:59.020 SOME OF IT HADN’T. THERE’S RICH DETAIL THAT SHOWS 01:59.054 --> 02:00.187 THERE’S RICH DETAIL THAT SHOWS THAT THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN WASN’T 02:00.222 --> 02:01.855 THAT THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN WASN’T JUST OCCASIONALLY BUMPING UP 02:01.890 --> 02:03.257 JUST OCCASIONALLY BUMPING UP AGAINST RUSSIAN INTERESTS. 02:03.258 --> 02:05.493 AGAINST RUSSIAN INTERESTS. THEY WERE ACTIVELY SOLICITING 02:05.527 --> 02:08.496 THEY WERE ACTIVELY SOLICITING INFORMATION FROM THE RUSSIANS IN 02:08.497 --> 02:09.664 INFORMATION FROM THE RUSSIANS IN ORDER TO UNDERMINE HILLARY 02:09.698 --> 02:10.198 ORDER TO UNDERMINE HILLARY CLINTON 02:10.199 --> 02:10.698 CLINTON CLINTON’S CAMPAIGN 02:10.733 --> 02:12.900 CLINTON’S CAMPAIGN THE RUSSIAN’S INTEREST WAS 02:12.901 --> 02:14.268 THE RUSSIAN’S INTEREST WAS SABOTAGING THE 2016 CAMPAIGN 02:14.303 --> 02:17.171 SABOTAGING THE 2016 CAMPAIGN I THINK THIS INDICTMENT REALLY 02:17.173 --> 02:20.875 I THINK THIS INDICTMENT REALLY LAYS OUT HOW STONE WAS A BRIDGE. 02:20.876 --> 02:25.313 LAYS OUT HOW STONE WAS A BRIDGE. FOR WHATEVER BRAVADO ROGER WANTS 02:25.347 --> 02:27.081 FOR WHATEVER BRAVADO ROGER WANTS TO SAY, THIS IS A PRETTY 02:27.116 --> 02:28.082 TO SAY, THIS IS A PRETTY AIRTIGHT INDICTMENT. 02:28.084 --> 02:29.183 AIRTIGHT INDICTMENT. ALL OF THE FACTS ARE THERE 02:29.184 --> 02:30.985 ALL OF THE FACTS ARE THERE ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK IS 02:30.986 --> 02:31.919 ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK IS MISSING FROM THE INDICTMENT THAT 02:31.954 --> 02:33.487 MISSING FROM THE INDICTMENT THAT IS INTERESTING IS THEY DIDN’T 02:33.522 --> 02:34.288 IS INTERESTING IS THEY DIDN’T CHARGE HIM WITH CONSPIRACY 02:34.290 --> 02:36.224 CHARGE HIM WITH CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE U.S. 02:36.225 --> 02:38.092 AGAINST THE U.S. EVERYTHING IN THIS FACT PATTERN 02:38.094 --> 02:39.927 EVERYTHING IN THIS FACT PATTERN WOULD SUGGEST THERE’S EVEN A 02:39.929 --> 02:40.728 WOULD SUGGEST THERE’S EVEN A MORE SERIOUS CHARGE THEY COULD 02:40.763 --> 02:42.129 MORE SERIOUS CHARGE THEY COULD HAVE LAID AT HIS FEET. 02:42.131 --> 02:43.298 HAVE LAID AT HIS FEET. WHY DIDN’T THEY? 02:43.332 --> 02:45.433 WHY DIDN’T THEY? I SUSPECT THAT MUELLER IS 02:45.434 --> 02:47.402 I SUSPECT THAT MUELLER IS KEEPING IT IN THEIR BACK POCKET. 02:47.403 --> 02:49.437 KEEPING IT IN THEIR BACK POCKET. WHEN THEY SIT DOWN WITH ROGER 02:49.438 --> 02:51.039 WHEN THEY SIT DOWN WITH ROGER NOT IN FRONT OF A CAMERA, 02:51.073 --> 02:52.674 NOT IN FRONT OF A CAMERA, THEY’RE GOING TO SAY WE HAVE 02:52.708 --> 02:54.042 THEY’RE GOING TO SAY WE HAVE FURTHER CHARGES. 02:54.076 --> 02:55.744 FURTHER CHARGES. WE CAN LAY AT YOU. 02:55.745 --> 02:56.845 WE CAN LAY AT YOU. DO YOU WANT TO COOPERATE OR NOT? 02:56.846 --> 02:59.481 DO YOU WANT TO COOPERATE OR NOT? >> LET ME WANDER INTO 02:59.515 --> 02:59.814 >> LET ME WANDER INTO SPECULATION. 02:59.815 --> 03:01.916 SPECULATION. ARE YOU WORRIED THAT’S NOT IN 03:01.917 --> 03:02.517 ARE YOU WORRIED THAT’S NOT IN THIS DOCUMENT BECAUSE OF THE 03:02.518 --> 03:04.319 THIS DOCUMENT BECAUSE OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO IS 03:04.320 --> 03:05.353 ATTORNEY GENERAL WHO IS OVERSEEING THIS INVESTIGATION? 03:05.388 --> 03:07.522 OVERSEEING THIS INVESTIGATION? >> I MEAN, THE OTHER -- I SHOULD 03:07.556 --> 03:09.757 >> I MEAN, THE OTHER -- I SHOULD SAY ALL THIS NO ONE KNOWS WHAT 03:09.759 --> 03:11.426 SAY ALL THIS NO ONE KNOWS WHAT ROBERT MUELLER KNOWS 03:11.427 --> 03:13.161 ROBERT MUELLER KNOWS SO THIS IS SPECULATION 03:13.195 --> 03:14.295 SO THIS IS SPECULATION I THINK THERE’S PEOPLE WHO 03:14.330 --> 03:15.730 I THINK THERE’S PEOPLE WHO AREN’T NAMED IN THIS INDICTMENT 03:15.731 --> 03:17.131 AREN’T NAMED IN THIS INDICTMENT WHO I THINK MUELLER PROBABLY 03:17.133 --> 03:18.667 WHO I THINK MUELLER PROBABLY KNOWS WHAT THEIR IDENTITY IS 03:18.701 --> 03:20.268 KNOWS WHAT THEIR IDENTITY IS I THINK PART OF THIS INDICTMENT 03:20.270 --> 03:21.770 I THINK PART OF THIS INDICTMENT IS SIGNAL SENDING. 03:21.771 --> 03:25.107 IS SIGNAL SENDING. JOYCE WOULD KNOW BETTER THAN I 03:25.141 --> 03:26.341 JOYCE WOULD KNOW BETTER THAN I I DON’T WORRY ABOUT THE ATTORNEY 03:26.342 --> 03:27.275 I DON’T WORRY ABOUT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL HERE 03:27.276 --> 03:29.277 GENERAL HERE I THINK ROBERT MUELLER STILL HAS 03:29.278 --> 03:30.078 I THINK ROBERT MUELLER STILL HAS A LOT OF THE CARDS 03:30.112 --> 03:32.814 A LOT OF THE CARDS >> JOYCE, LET ME TURN TO YOU 03:32.849 --> 03:35.050 >> JOYCE, LET ME TURN TO YOU ON WHAT WE’VE SEEN SO FAR, WE’RE 03:35.051 --> 03:38.286 ON WHAT WE’VE SEEN SO FAR, WE’RE GOING TO TALK LATER ABOUT RUDY 03:38.321 --> 03:38.720 GOING TO TALK LATER ABOUT RUDY GIULIANI’S APPROACH. 03:38.755 --> 03:41.790 GIULIANI’S APPROACH. WHEN YOU LOOK AT ROGER STONE 03:41.791 --> 03:42.858 WHEN YOU LOOK AT ROGER STONE WEARING THAT T SHIRT, WHAT HE 03:42.859 --> 03:46.061 WEARING THAT T SHIRT, WHAT HE SAID TO REPORTERS OUTSIDE THAT 03:46.062 --> 03:47.462 SAID TO REPORTERS OUTSIDE THAT FORT LAUDERDALE COURTHOUSE, 03:47.463 --> 03:49.197 FORT LAUDERDALE COURTHOUSE, WHAT’S HIS GAME AS HE APPROACH 03:49.231 --> 03:51.332 WHAT’S HIS GAME AS HE APPROACH THAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN IN COURT 03:51.367 --> 03:52.667 THAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN IN COURT ON TUESDAY AND THE LEGAL 03:52.669 --> 03:53.268 ON TUESDAY AND THE LEGAL PROCEEDINGS THEREAFTER 03:53.270 --> 03:54.870 PROCEEDINGS THEREAFTER >> HE DOESN’T HAVE MUCH LEGAL 03:54.871 --> 03:56.605 >> HE DOESN’T HAVE MUCH LEGAL GAME TO THE EXTENT HE HAS A 03:56.606 --> 03:57.806 GAME TO THE EXTENT HE HAS A GAME, HE’S REACHING OUT TO THE 03:57.807 --> 03:59.808 GAME, HE’S REACHING OUT TO THE PRESIDENT ASKING FOR A PARDONEN 03:59.842 --> 04:01.209 PRESIDENT ASKING FOR A PARDONEN BECAUSE THAT’S ABOUT ALL THAT’S 04:01.211 --> 04:03.546 BECAUSE THAT’S ABOUT ALL THAT’S LEFT WHEN YOU HAVE AN INDICTMENT 04:03.580 --> 04:05.514 LEFT WHEN YOU HAVE AN INDICTMENT WHICH IS JUST AS AIRTIGHT AS 04:05.549 --> 04:07.349 WHICH IS JUST AS AIRTIGHT AS IRONCLAD AS THIS ONE IS. 04:07.383 --> 04:09.417 IRONCLAD AS THIS ONE IS. THIS IS FALSE STATEMENTS 04:09.419 --> 04:09.718 THIS IS FALSE STATEMENTS OBSTRUCTION. 04:09.719 --> 04:10.786 OBSTRUCTION. WITNESS TAMPERING. 04:10.787 --> 04:12.588 WITNESS TAMPERING. IT’S A SPEAKING INDICTMENT 04:12.589 --> 04:13.889 IT’S A SPEAKING INDICTMENT PROSECUTORS DON’T USUALLY PUT 04:13.890 --> 04:16.325 PROSECUTORS DON’T USUALLY PUT ALL OF THEIR EVIDENCE INTO AN 04:16.326 --> 04:16.592 ALL OF THEIR EVIDENCE INTO AN INDICTMENT 04:16.593 --> 04:18.193 INDICTMENT BUT HERE MUELLER GOES TO A LOT 04:18.195 --> 04:19.528 BUT HERE MUELLER GOES TO A LOT OF TROUBLE TO TELLS THE 04:19.562 --> 04:21.663 OF TROUBLE TO TELLS THE NARRATIVE SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND 04:21.698 --> 04:23.499 NARRATIVE SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT’S GOING ON AND BASED ON 04:23.500 --> 04:25.434 WHAT’S GOING ON AND BASED ON WHAT’S IN THIS CASE, T NOT GOING 04:25.469 --> 04:26.535 WHAT’S IN THIS CASE, T NOT GOING AWAY FOR ROGER STONE 04:26.536 --> 04:29.638 AWAY FOR ROGER STONE >> LET’S TALK ABOUT ROGER STONE 04:29.639 --> 04:29.872 >> LET’S TALK ABOUT ROGER STONE THE MAN. 04:29.906 --> 04:31.941 THE MAN. I’LL TURN TO EUGENE. 04:31.975 --> 04:33.810 I’LL TURN TO EUGENE. HE HAS RICHARD NIXON ON HIS 04:33.843 --> 04:34.143 HE HAS RICHARD NIXON ON HIS DOOR 04:34.177 --> 04:36.479 DOOR >> AND BACK. 04:36.513 --> 04:39.348 >> AND BACK. >> A TATTOO OF HIM ON HIS BACK 04:39.383 --> 04:41.517 >> A TATTOO OF HIM ON HIS BACK AND THE NIXON FOUNDATION 04:41.551 --> 04:48.357 AND THE NIXON FOUNDATION DISTANCED THEMSELVES FROM STONE. 04:48.358 --> 04:49.458 DISTANCED THEMSELVES FROM STONE. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE 04:49.459 --> 04:51.360 WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE OBSESSION THAT HE HAS ABOUT FOR 04:51.361 --> 04:53.329 OBSESSION THAT HE HAS ABOUT FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, HIS 04:53.330 --> 04:54.463 LACK OF A BETTER WORD, HIS WEIRDNESS AND THE WAY THAT’S 04:54.498 --> 04:55.331 WEIRDNESS AND THE WAY THAT’S CHANGING THE CONVERSATION HERE 04:55.365 --> 04:56.165 CHANGING THE CONVERSATION HERE >> YEAH. 04:56.166 --> 04:57.366 >> YEAH. I THINK HE’S AN INDIVIDUAL WHO 04:57.367 --> 04:59.668 I THINK HE’S AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS PROVEN HE WANTS TO BE AT THE 04:59.670 --> 05:01.771 HAS PROVEN HE WANTS TO BE AT THE TABLE AND INVOLVED IN DECISION 05:01.805 --> 05:02.405 TABLE AND INVOLVED IN DECISION MAKING 05:02.439 --> 05:04.540 MAKING AND HELP SHAPE CULTURE AND 05:04.541 --> 05:05.875 AND HELP SHAPE CULTURE AND POLITICS AS WE KNOW IT 05:05.909 --> 05:07.610 POLITICS AS WE KNOW IT THE PROBLEM IS HE ALSO PERHAPS 05:07.644 --> 05:10.379 THE PROBLEM IS HE ALSO PERHAPS BY HIS OWN ADMISSION AND THOSE 05:10.380 --> 05:13.849 BY HIS OWN ADMISSION AND THOSE AROUND HIM, HE’S A DIRTY TRICKS 05:13.851 --> 05:14.050 AROUND HIM, HE’S A DIRTY TRICKS CENTER 05:14.051 --> 05:15.852 CENTER THOSE ETHICS CHANGE HOW HE GOES 05:15.853 --> 05:16.986 THOSE ETHICS CHANGE HOW HE GOES ABOUT MAKING DECISIONS 05:16.987 --> 05:18.387 ABOUT MAKING DECISIONS I REMEMBER IN THE PROFILE OF HIM 05:18.388 --> 05:19.589 I REMEMBER IN THE PROFILE OF HIM IN THE NEW YORKER, HE SAID 05:19.623 --> 05:21.024 IN THE NEW YORKER, HE SAID SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF 05:21.058 --> 05:22.892 SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF IT’S SO RARE THAT I’M ACCUSED OF 05:22.893 --> 05:24.761 IT’S SO RARE THAT I’M ACCUSED OF SOMETHING THAT I’M NOT GUILTY 05:24.762 --> 05:25.161 SOMETHING THAT I’M NOT GUILTY OF 05:25.162 --> 05:26.562 OF LIKE, THAT’S A QUOTE 05:26.563 --> 05:28.497 LIKE, THAT’S A QUOTE AND WHEN YOU CHOOSE PEOPLE LIKE 05:28.499 --> 05:30.400 AND WHEN YOU CHOOSE PEOPLE LIKE THAT TO ADVISE YOU AND WORK WITH 05:30.401 --> 05:32.101 THAT TO ADVISE YOU AND WORK WITH YOU ON YOUR PRSHL CAMPAIGN, THAT